Meet the Other Phone. A phone that grows with your child.

Meet the Other Phone.
A phone that grows with your child.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Brexit

Westminstenders: Election Special

995 replies

RedToothBrush · 12/12/2019 10:29

Spreadsheet of declaration times from 2017 by constituency

sluggerotoole.com/2019/12/10/an-hour-by-hour-guide-to-election-night/
Key constituencies by declaration time to help you understand what might be going on

yougov.co.uk/uk-general-election-2019/
YouGov MRP

www.electionpolling.co.uk/battleground
List of seats by marginality and party targeting them

Westminstenders: Election Special
OP posts:
Thread gallery
18
RedToothBrush · 12/12/2019 19:46

Laura Jayes @ljayes
🚨 Tory insiders are telling me Boris Johnson could “genuinely be in trouble in #UxbridgeAndSouthRuislip”.

Exit pollsters think the Lib Dem vote has collapsed there probably due to tactical voting for Labour.🚨

@SkyNewsAust

Just how much do I want this to be true!?

OP posts:
JustAnotherPoster00 · 12/12/2019 19:47

Laura Jayes
@ljayes
🚨 Tory insiders are telling me Boris Johnson could “genuinely be in trouble in #UxbridgeAndSouthRuislip”.

Exit pollsters think the Lib Dem vote has collapsed there probably due to tactical voting for Labour.🚨

@SkyNewsAust

TreesSandSea · 12/12/2019 19:47

I am a soppy old sap but I am in tears at this
mobile.twitter.com/hashtag/youthquake

Bloody hell I am starting to hope again

ThatsMySantaHisBeardIsSoFluffy · 12/12/2019 19:47

@Lucygoeswalkies, Sky News is on Freeview if that's where Bercow will be!

TheMustressMhor · 12/12/2019 19:47

Oh I have a DH who even with instructions, never manages to get quite the right thing

What is it with DHs and lists? Mind is the same. He never goes to the shops without a list and never comes home with all the things that were on it.

Baffling.

ThatsMySantaHisBeardIsSoFluffy · 12/12/2019 19:48

Christ. If Johnson loses his seat I may drink ALL of our Christmas booze (there is A LOT of booze in my house)!

Hazardexhausted · 12/12/2019 19:48

Labour canvasser at my door again checking we've voted Grin

If I hadn't I think I would have been frog marched down 😂

Just wtf? Unheard of.

Some one slap me I'm having feelings of optimism.

RedToothBrush · 12/12/2019 19:49

Jim Pickard@pickardje
usual anecdotal health warnings but I’m aware of actual Lib Dem members (ie not just supporters) in Uxbridge who voted Labour today

Yes Jim.

This has been happening all over the country.

Been said for some days on these threads...

OP posts:
ThatsMySantaHisBeardIsSoFluffy · 12/12/2019 19:50

You'd have to be stupid to not vote Labour in Uxbridge if you're not a Tory. Surely?

RedToothBrush · 12/12/2019 19:50

Adam Payne @adampayne26
Labour activists in famous Tory target seat Workington are quietly confident

Famous last words?

OP posts:
needtogiveitablow · 12/12/2019 19:51

I've been in London for 2 days for work and I'm almost home in time to vote - did catch our odious leader heading to cast his vote this morning as well which made me even more determined to get home on time. Just reading through the youthquake tweets is making me so hopeful but I'm still dreading the result!

NotYourTypicalNerd · 12/12/2019 19:52

Can I have a proud moment? Ds's had mock election today. It was a blind vote - no parties mentioned, only the manifestos. BOTH ds's knew which was which just by the manifestos Grin Not sure about the quieter one, but my Aspie boy then campaigned passionately on behalf of the party he thought was right to get in. Then only one person in his form voted tory! Grin (we are in a tactical constituency)

JustAnotherPoster00 · 12/12/2019 19:56

I refuse to be hopeful I made that mistake in '92, havent done it since but I can feel it at the edges and I wish it would fuck right off, I have a WCA in a few months and dont have the strength to appeal if I lose and the 1 party thats going to fix that is the 1 thats not going to win tonight and break a lot of young hearts, I'm feeling very sad Sad

Grinchly · 12/12/2019 19:59

I had to google 'rylan' to find out who he is. Blush
#vairold

JustAnotherPoster00 · 12/12/2019 19:59

Louise Haigh
@LouHaigh
·
2m
Our team has just given a lady a lift to the polling station who was scared to go out in her hijab after dark 💔

This is what's at stake if we let Boris Johnson have another term in office

LockThatFridge · 12/12/2019 20:01

Delurking and joining you with a large glass of port and a box of chocolates. I’m so nervous and feel a bit sick. Only two hours until the exit poll.
The polling station in my safe Tory seat was quiet this morning but I went after school drop off so maybe not a busy time. I’m hoping the torrential rain kept away the many elderly Tory voters around here!

AnxietyDream · 12/12/2019 20:01

Voted. Actually feel a bit sick about it. Historically a very safe Tory seat where nothing I did would make a difference, but I can't help worry that tomorrow I will see I should have made a different tactical choice.

I fucking hate our electoral system where tactical voting is even a thing. I don't want to be voting based on guesses around how the people around me might vote to best keep the Tories out.

RedToothBrush · 12/12/2019 20:02

Henry Olsen
Tweetstorm on #UKElection with predictions -

I have looked at every seat in the YouGov MRP issued on 10 December. That model, based on a poll of 100,000 residents of GB (No NI), had the Conservative lead at 9%. I looked at every seat and compared the Tory lead with that. 1/x

Based on that, the Tories need roughly a 6.5% national lead to get a bare majority of seats. Here's their estimated total at each level of popular vote lead:

+11 - 354, +10 - 348, +9 - 346, +8 - 338, +7, 332, +6 - 320

2/x

Here's the seats in the cusp range of Tory majority a hung parliament (the seats where the Tory lead evaporates in the +6-8 region).

Losses - Aberconwy, Aberdeen S, Vale of Glamorgan, Banff&Buchan, Harrow East, Chingford, Ayr Carrick, MK North, Hendon, Cheltenham

3/x

Lost Gains - Great Grimsby, Wrexham, Dagenham & Rainham, Sedgefield, Lanark & Hamilton East, Keighley, Bolsover, Crewe & Nantwich, Ipswich.

The first group are Tory-held seats they could lose; the second are non-Tory held seats they can gain.

4/x

So if the exit poll forecasts a Tory lead in the 6-7.5% range, these are the seats to watch. If the Tories lose most of the them, it's a hung parliament. If they win most, they have a small majority.

5/x

Again, this is simply my comparison of the projected YouGov MRP Tory lead/trailing margin in seat compared to the YouGov MRP national Tory vote lead. Doing this lets me see what seats slip to or away from the Tories as their national lead rises or falls.

6/x

Here are the seats at each level of the estimated Tory national lead they need to capture the seat:

Tory +11 -

Gains - Hyndburn, Stoke C, Bury N, Workington, Dewsbury
Losses - Angus, Chipping Barnet, Putney, South Cambridgeshire

7/x

Tory +10 -

^Gains - Warrington S, Clwyd S
Losses - Renfrewshire E, Winchester, Gordon^

Tory +9 -

^Gains - Wolverhampton SW, Stockton S, Vale of Clwyd, Bedford, Delyn
Losses -Ochil & S Perthshire, E Devon, Moray^

8/x

Tory +8 -

Gains - Great Grimsby, Wrexham, Dagenham, Sedgefield, Lanark & Hamilton E
Losses - Aberconwy, Aberdeen S

Tory +7 -

Gains - Bolsover, Keighley
Losses - Vale of Glamorgan, Banff & Buchan, Harrow E, Chingford, Ayr Carrick, MK N, Hendon, Cheltenham

9/x

Tory +6 -

^Gains - Crewe & Nantwich, Ipswich
Losses - Hastings & Rye, Norwich N^

Tory +5 -

Gains - Scunthorpe
Losses - Reading W

Tory +4 -

Gains - Bishop Auckland, Blackpool S, Rother Valley, Wolv NE, West Bromwich W
Losses - MK S, Guildford, Cheadle

10/x

A couple of additions to the foregoing -

Add Esher & Walton to potential Tory losses at Tory +7; Bolton NE to potential Tory gains at Tory +9, and Lincoln to potential Tory gains at Tory +10.

Tory +3 -

Gains - Stoke N, Colne Valley, Darlington
Losses - Cities of London & Westminster, W Aberdeenshire, Morecambe, St. Ives, Lewes

Tory +2 -

Gains - Bassetlaw, Bury S
Losses - Worcester, Watford, Calder Valley, Dumfriess & Galloway, Presli Pembrokeshire

12/x

Tory +1 or tie -

Gains - Ashfield, Barrow & Furness, Eastbourne, Penistone & S, Derby N, Dudley N, Brecon & Rad, N Norfolk, Wakefield, Peterborough, Don Valley

Losses - Pudsey, Crawley (reverse this with the +2 above - my mistake).

13/x

I might have missed a few seats - I did this all by hand and 632 seats are a lot to keep track of. I am also not tracking seat changes between the non-Tory parties (SNP, Labour, Lib Dems, PC, and Greens) since those don't affect the ability of the Tories to form gov't.

14/x

What's my prediction? I have a hunch this is going to be like the 1980 US election, when people who were fed up embraced Reagan despite their Democratic heritage. So everyone was shocked when he won so big and the GOP won the Senate for the first time since 1954.

15/x

If that happens tonight, then the Tory margin will be closer to 10-12 and the Tories will break 350, and maybe 360, seats.

OTOH, if my hunch is wrong then it will be because of high youth turnout and some Brexit Party voters deciding they just can't leave Labour.

16/x

If that happens the Tory margin could fall to as little as 4% and their seats will melt away. Hard to see them dropping under 300, but maybe a bottom of 310 and not enough to form government even with the DUP. The rough model I'm using has Tories on 312 seats at +4%.

17/x

I'll be live tweeting tonight, so follow me if you want to see how this model plays out in practice!

18/18

Hmm is all I will say to this.

OP posts:
Stinkyeddie · 12/12/2019 20:02

I'm feeling very affectionate towards all those on this thread this evening...(which only usually happens after prosecco...)

It's been 3 years and, honestly, you've all keep me relatively sane 😬😁❤

TheElementsSong · 12/12/2019 20:03

I'm going to be the voice of gloom and say that (going from the available data up to yesterday) the %ages weren't close enough to suggest a hung parliament. Obviously we could quibble about samplings and weightings, but ultimately, margins of error go both ways. I'm still anticipating a Tory majority, albeit not the triumphant landslide of national adoration that BlowJob and his cheerleaders expected.

I think we'll stay up for the exit polls and then (try to) sleep.

RedToothBrush · 12/12/2019 20:03

Alex Wickham@alexwickham
Laura Pidcock v Richard Holden in North West Durham is going to be tight according to the Tories. 8,792 Labour majority

There was a lot of snow in rural areas there earlier but it's cleared up now... will come down to turnout

OP posts:
BestIsWest · 12/12/2019 20:04

Absolutely torrential rain here at the moment Sad

RedToothBrush · 12/12/2019 20:04

Steve Hawkes @steve_hawkes
Latest gossip. Parties thrown by turnout - it’s been huge. Suggestions Tories can gain 20 or so seats, incredibly incl Bolsover. But then it comes down to ‘net’ gains. Labour looking good in Putney, and better in places like Grimsby

Surprisingly high or low turnout = more big shocks

You have been warned

OP posts:
OublietteBravo · 12/12/2019 20:05

I would LOVE to see Johnson lose his seat. Please let that happen.

TheMustressMhor · 12/12/2019 20:05

I refuse to be hopeful - I made that mistake in 1992

Same here.

It was terrible going in to work the next day (midwifery) and thinking about how the NHS was finished.

Swipe left for the next trending thread