Westminstenders: Election Special

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Spreadsheet of declaration times from 2017 by constituency

sluggerotoole.com/2019/12/10/an-hour-by-hour-guide-to-election-night/
Key constituencies by declaration time to help you understand what might be going on

yougov.co.uk/uk-general-election-2019/
YouGov MRP

www.electionpolling.co.uk/battleground
List of seats by marginality and party targeting them

Any theories about why the latest yougov MRP underestimated the scale of the Tory majority ?

I was wondering that too.

If people want the centre why don't they all vote Lib Dem?

*I wonder if Labour regrets blocking May’s Deal three times?

That was a good idea, wasn’t it?*

In this one single instance I concur and I wonder if misogyny had much to do with it. 😖

Dumb fucking question of course it did!

@Motheroffourdragons they will get what's coming to them...are you going to gloat??

No..me neither. We will all be sinking.

This exit poll may not be nearly as accurate as previous ones - Brexit party affecting votes, tactical voting, possibly increased postal voting.

No-one should count their chickens.....

Newcastle East Labour.

Imma go to bed and watch on my phone.

Sunderland Central Labour

I could try to see the positive (which I'd mentioned in previous threads) that whatever the result, it was a Win:Win for the SNP/pro Indy supporters (who are more than just the SNP ).

But I can't, because I can see how damaging this is going to be for the poorest and most vulnerable even if they were conned into voting for it

This is how fanatical Remainer MPs delivered the GE to the Tories:By voting 3 times against May's WA

You forget that Johnson and his cronies voted against May's deal - so at least share the blame with them.

Some good news in Oxford West and Abingdon, the LibDems hold with a majoritity of 8943, an increase on the 2017 majority of 816. Labour down by 3,000 ish, and the Green stood aside, normally good for about 2,000 votes, so about 4,000 votes must have come from the Tory electorate. The Brexit Party got a paltry few hundred.

Exit poll for Scotland 55 SNP but have woken to 48. I'll take it anyway. (At least Ruth Davidson won't be skinny dipping in Loch Ness). Sorry to see no Green seats in Scotland now.

I'm sorry that English people voted a big majority for Boris and he has his 'stonking' mandate for Brexit.

I'm praying for Scottish independence in EU or in a EFTA type setup or similar and will offer my spare room for refugees from Wales or England along with Prettybird, there'sfor all.

I hope now for Irish reunification and Scottish Independence and the thought that the Tories will be responsible for smashing the United Kingdom.

How long do you think it will take?

First time poster but been reading forever.

I am absolutely gutted this morning. I am on a very low income and benefits. I am a lone parent and I do not have any support from my own parents or family.

I live hand to mouth for myself and 2 children. I am petrified of using the food bank. I think it will become a real possibility for me in the near future.

The lack of council housing means I am stuck in the poverty trap.

I am just so wanting to scream at all the people who actually believe Boris and who fell for the "get brexit done" shite

I'm pretty sure they all think it is going to disappear and all will be well.

It is NOT going to get done, and we are now facing a majority conservative government where only the rich get richer and people like me and my children have nothing.

I used to be married and earned a high salary. Circumstances find me where I am now. My children have zero chance of university. I don't drink, I don't smoke , I haven't been on holiday in ten years, but my children are fed and clothed and safe and I thank the lord that we are fortunate in that way.

I see so many suffering as it is and even though I donate to the food bank myself when I can I know it will be us there soon.

I have one pair of boots. If my washing machine broke tomorrow I would not be able to replace it.

There is nothing spare. Nothing.

I just can't get my head around why people voted for this

Ds is a political journalist and a member of the Labour Party. It was his job at work to stay up and watch every result come in and turn the country blue, watching is Party be annihilated. I think he’s in shock. Very upset😭

I hope now for Irish reunification and Scottish Independence and the thought that the Tories will be responsible for smashing the United Kingdom.

How long do you think it will take?

I would love Scottish Independence and the country remaining in/rejoining the EU; I'd be eligible for a Scottish passport and have lived there before and would be (relatively) happy to do so again.

But Westminster won't allow Sturgeon another referendum.

Naughty. It sounds very tough. But why is there no chance of your children going to university?

naughty My DD is a single parent on minimum wage zero contract hours in private rental because she can't get a council house and really struggling. My Dgd starts University next year and has a choice of 4 top Russel Group universities to choose from so far as she has offers from them. I see no reason why your DC cannot go to University. No doubt it is a struggle to study and like you my DD has not been on holiday for many years. There is only me and her sister and nephew in my family and I am disabled pensioner with no money so if my Dgd can get to uni so can your DC and i wish you best of luck.

But Westminster won't allow Sturgeon another referendum. Thank God

So derxa by your own admission, don't believe in a democratic society.

naughty don't give up. We're another family on the breadline, but dd started Uni this year, a can good Russell grp one, doing history&ancient history. She has got full loans bursaries, scholarships, she got online and searched out everything she could find - even has a small choral scholarship! She has done a weekly budget for food and has teamed up with a couple of others in her flat to offer online in bulk so delivery costs are shared. There are so many ways an intelligent and resourceful child can make Uni work if they really want to. As for the 'debt', well she's decided that it's worth it.

Admittedly, she's not a party animal, but she has joined the Real Ale Soci3ty and sinks a pint of two with them once a week.

She's happy studying her subject, everything e!we is icing.

I unfriended 3 people on Facebook yesterday. All people I know through a hobby club I used to belong to.

1. crowing that "all the lazy barstards getting handouts will have to work now" claiming that he doesn't earn a high wage but lives well. Well not everyone lives rent free in a house that mummy bought with a massive inheritance.
2. couldn't see why people with cancer might need benefits. People should apparently save up enough to see them through any bad times. Well not everyone inherits a large farm in a good area and is able to sell off a few acres here and there to developers.
3. thinks everyone can have a massive house in the South East and kids at private school if they just work hard like him ignoring the fact his wife inherited £1m and his parents pay the school fees. I have also already had an opportunity to shrug and say "we must respect the will of the people" when a Tory voter moaned they can't get a GP appointment.