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Westminstenders: Election Special

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RedToothBrush · 12/12/2019 10:29

Spreadsheet of declaration times from 2017 by constituency

sluggerotoole.com/2019/12/10/an-hour-by-hour-guide-to-election-night/
Key constituencies by declaration time to help you understand what might be going on

yougov.co.uk/uk-general-election-2019/
YouGov MRP

www.electionpolling.co.uk/battleground
List of seats by marginality and party targeting them

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BigChocFrenzy · 12/12/2019 11:35

16 and 17-yr-olds manage to vote for the Scottish Parliament - not allowed in GEs though
Even the most fervently patriotic Scots wouldn't claim their kids are cleverer and more mature than English kids

dontcallmelen · 12/12/2019 11:35

Just 😂 has made my morning.

Ellie56 · 12/12/2019 11:36

“Which box to vote Labour and get that Iain Duncan-Smith dickhead out?" A cheer went up from waiting voters.

Grin Grin

ContinuityError · 12/12/2019 11:38

BIL reporting that political gamblers are seeing a very large turnout of under 25s (although no idea how they know this yet).

UltimateFoole · 12/12/2019 11:38

@ContinuityError

I reckon it's the recommendations that are the explosive part of the ISC report. That's the reason we haven't been allowed to see it. The Conservatives - maybe all the parties - were keen to fight this election with the rules and safeguards as they are - ie. inadequate.

There's no huge smoking gun simply more of the type of thing we already know about; donations, think tank funding, online bots (all bad and worrying but basically known about). It's the recommendations - and just ignoring them - that is the real problem for politcians. That's my take anyway.

David Allen Green's 'Three Things Not Happening This Election Day - as posted upthread by Continuity

PatienceThreadbare · 12/12/2019 11:39

Morning. I mostly lurk but I'm feeling sick and don't want to be alone (virtually speaking). I've voted but I am in a safe seat.

One happy anecdote: step-sister and husband in a Con-Lab marginal, remainers and lifelong Tory voters (except once when they voted UKIP as a protest against the tories getting too centrist on social issues).

Have always hated Labour, really hate Corbyn, down on single mothers and gay people (religiously based), probably agree with a lot of the Johnsonion Spectator bile, in fact, because they'd consider it common sense.

And they have voted Labour.

Because they have seen the mess over the last 3 years, and they see through the lies about getting Brexit done, and through the lies about Brexit making anything better for anyone except the hedge fund people - and also, especially in DSS's case, because they think Johnson is not fit for office, with his flagrant disregard for the truth and his flagrant disrespect for others, in particular for female opposition MPs. DSS wrote to her MP for the first time in her life, after his vile "Humbug" remark.

They were going to vote LD, but I sent them a tactical voting site (thanks to this thread) and they held their noses, ignored their churning stomachs and voted Labour.

However, their seat is one that has flipped blue to red in the yougov poll, so perhaps people like them are accounted for in the polling.

(Regardless of what dawn brings, their vote will make my personal Christmas a little easier at least!)

Still feel sick though.

Felina · 12/12/2019 11:40

DH voted earlier, said there was no one else there. I will vote after lunch. We are both voting for David Gauke.

KatieGoesKaboom · 12/12/2019 11:48

Even the most fervently patriotic Scots wouldn't claim their kids are cleverer and more mature than English kids

Ha, you've never met my Gran! We're a bunch of red-haired wee geniuses you know.

InMySpareTime · 12/12/2019 12:01

DS is in college, and will head out later for his first vote 😃.
He says college have really been encouraging their 18YOs to vote.
I know a lot of Manchester University students, and they are more politically engaged this year than I've ever seen, and very switched on about tactical voting.

derxa · 12/12/2019 12:03

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3dogs2cats · 12/12/2019 12:03

I love elections, had a fanatical socialist mother who let me stay up all night for them from age 5. Don’t know if it is just that fluttery Christmas Eve feeling masking the truth, but I do feel curiously optimistic. Go Bedford, go Wokingham, but best of all, go Chingford!

TiddleTaddleTat · 12/12/2019 12:04

Pmk
Woke up in terror at the thought of Tory majority and drift towards fascism. Can't believe it still.
Have voted. Trying to distract myself with work.

RedToothBrush · 12/12/2019 12:05

Have taken friend for cake and voting successfully.

Polling station reasonably busy for mid morning. Mix of older and middle age voters with young kids (very few young voters here).

Busier than 9.00 just after the school run.

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DGRossetti · 12/12/2019 12:10

Ah ! Here you all are Grin

OhLookHeKickedTheBall · 12/12/2019 12:11

Pmk for later. Thanks red

BlaueLagune · 12/12/2019 12:15

DS is too young to vote but his 6th form college has been encouraging its 18 year old students to vote.

I have been to vote this morning and it was very quiet but it was mid morning and the weather was dire. I assume it will pick up later.

CatteStreet · 12/12/2019 12:17

Red, you deserve an honour for services to democracy. Not that you'd get one, regrettably, in the current set-up.

I shall be up, watching, tonight, as an emotional rather than a practical stakeholder. My feeling isn't good.

enochroot · 12/12/2019 12:19

I'm used to the local polling station in a rural village being empty. This morning there were 4 of us. A queue?
It was 60% Tory last time so the most I'm hoping for is a reduced majority. (If this constituency flipped it would be a seismic change!)

Laniakea · 12/12/2019 12:24

I voted at 7am this morning - dh & dd went about an hour later. Cold & wet but the polling station was very busy ... mostly young people & hipster beards. We're a con/lab marginal (previously large con majority massively reduced last time, strong remain area & only a couple of % in it in latest polling) - lots of labour activity this morning no sign of Tories. I have a feeling it will be very close here. LibDems have completely collapsed locally.

DGRossetti · 12/12/2019 12:37

I reckon it's the recommendations that are the explosive part of the ISC report. That's the reason we haven't been allowed to see it. The Conservatives - maybe all the parties - were keen to fight this election with the rules and safeguards as they are - ie. inadequate.

Of course if the Tories win, they can wave a magic wand and just make everything that happened up to "now" legal. A one-line bill could do it ? Something like the 2019 Truth and Reconciliation act which retrospectively makes any unlawful or illegal behaviour previously, now legal Sad

BoreOfWhabylon · 12/12/2019 12:41

pmk

Posted in other thread that I'm just back from voting. I'm in a small village in a geographically large key swing seat, currently held by an ERG slug. All tactical sites now recommend voting Labour to unseat him.

Those manning the polling station report a much larger turn-out than usual, even those it's been pouring rain all morning.

PerkingFaintly · 12/12/2019 12:41

My regular election reminder that YOU CAN DROP A POSTAL VOTE IN AT YOUR POLLING STATION if you haven't posted it in time.

www.gov.uk/voting-in-the-uk#postal-voting

RedToothBrush · 12/12/2019 12:42

Proof that everyone is losing their minds today including the pollsters

Chris Curtis @chriscurtis94 (of YouGov)
Who from the exit poll team do you think would be most likely to survive a Zombie Apocalypse?

John Curtice
Rob Ford
Jon Mellon
Will Jennings

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TheABC · 12/12/2019 12:42

@DGRossetti, that sounds far too efficient for the present Cabinet. I think they are more likely to bluster, spin and distract everyone, with the help of a supine media.

PerkingFaintly · 12/12/2019 12:43

(Probably most people on these threads already know that.Smile)