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BigChocFrenzy · 25/10/2019 13:24

Our Sub-Prime Minister BJ is threatening a govt tantrum strike until he is allowed his Haribo GE on 12 December.

If MPs vote for a GE, he has promised them "more time" to debate the WAB,
but that would only be from 29 October to 7 November

  • ridiculously inadequate for such complex legislation -
before Parliament is automatically dissolved for the 25 sitting days before a GE.

The GE debate starts Monday 2:30 pm in the HoC
Corbyn says he'll agree to a GE if BJ takes No Deal off the table

BUT wIth this WA,
No deal cannot 100% be taken off the table whilst the Tories are in office:

they could still No Deal after transition ends on 31 December 2020,
if they don't request a transition by July.

We don't know when the EU will give their decision on an extension, or what it will be:

The EU may decide only after the HoC vote
- in which case MPs would be voting "blindly"

Tusk, Merkel & most other leaders want to grant the Flextension until 31 January,
but Macron & a few others want to give a short extension of only 2-4 weeks, to pressure MPs to pass the WA in November

  • in which case the GE would take place shortly after Brexit, which would be a gift to BJ.

A 12 December GE would also cause serious logistical problems for local council officials:

Apart from their poll station bookings clashing with Xmas bookings for church halls & schools,

they are legally required to send out all the polling cards based on the current electoral roll,
then at the GE, check names against the new electoral roll which must be updated on 1 December

The Rebel Alliance want a long extension, so they have time to add amendments to the WAB,
e.g. a CU, the Level Playing Field agreement in May's WA, maybe even a PV
So many may want to vote against a GE before that ..... but what does Corbyn want ?

BJ as PM could still change the date of any GE after he has agreed to it, if it suits him.

What does BJ want ?
Alice Cooper said it:

"I'm your top prime cut of meat, I'm your choice
I wanna be elected
I'm your yankee doodle dandy in a gold Rolls Royce
I wanna be elected
Kids want a savior, don't need a fake

I wanna be elected
We're all gonna rock to the rules that I make
I wanna be elected, elected, elected..."

m.youtube.com/watch?v=cSvy8HpxFxo

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BercowsFlyingFlamingo · 28/10/2019 10:41

Thanks placemats I'll make sure dinner is timed to allow me to watch it Smile

It's a beautiful sunny day here today and it matches my mood. Even endometriosis pain can't dull my mood today. I might even wrap some Christmas presents 🎄

Happy extension day everyone!

BercowsFlyingFlamingo · 28/10/2019 10:55

I've just been thinking about carving my pumpkin and had the idea of doing an EU pumpkin 🇪🇺 I'll get another one to do a "normal" one too.

MockersthefeMANist · 28/10/2019 11:01

Sky News (with added Brexit) have taken donw their countdown clock.

Please can we have the next episode:

Westminsterenders: Dead in a Ditch.

DGRossetti · 28/10/2019 11:03

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BigChocFrenzy · 28/10/2019 11:03

Merkel is probably sticking pins in an effigy of Cameron:

After Brexit, Germany's payments to the next EU budget are set to double to €33 billion.

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DGRossetti · 28/10/2019 11:06

So Macron has not saved BJ's bacon. Quelle surprise.

He's playing to his home crowd exactly the same way Boris is to his.

If Brexiteers feel tricked or let down, then ... good.

BigChocFrenzy · 28/10/2019 11:07

I think the ditch BJ died in was in asking for the extension, which he said he'd never do ....

Until he caved in and did so

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BercowsFlyingFlamingo · 28/10/2019 11:07

I second the dead in a ditch title.

I'm thinking a circle of stars with a heart in the middle.

BigChocFrenzy · 28/10/2019 11:10

I'm not sure if even BJ's ego let him believe Macron was his ally

The EU leaders regards him as a slimy twisty weasel who should never be rewarded

I suppose some of the more gullible Brexit supporters believed the Tory media hype and may now feel "betrayed" by Macron.

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BlackeyedGruesome · 28/10/2019 11:10

He's not doing or dying... Another lie then.

DGRossetti · 28/10/2019 11:17

I suppose some of the more gullible Brexit supporters believed the Tory media hype and may now feel "betrayed" by Macron.

Good, good, and good again.

Even the thickest Brexiteer must have twigged by now that "something is up", and that maybe - just maybe - Brexit had fuck all to do with leaving the EU, and never did ?

DGRossetti · 28/10/2019 11:18

Many a true word and all that ...

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MockersthefeMANist · 28/10/2019 11:27

BJ may not know, but the 'Rather die in a ditch' comment originates with the Tory Lords who opposed Lloyd-George's budget in 1911. They became the 'ditchers' in contrast to the more moderate 'hedgers.'

A similar distinction which may have inspired them was from the (then) recent 2nd Anglo-Boer War, where the Afrikaaners were divided between the Hensoppers and Bitterenders.

BigChocFrenzy · 28/10/2019 11:35

Here's another ditch he won't die in, from the Benn Act:

"If the European council decides to agree an extension of the period in article 50(3) of the treaty on European Unionn^ ending at 11.00pm on 31 October 2019 to the period ending at 11.00pm on 31 January 2020,
the prime minister must, immediately after such a decision is made,
notify the president of the European council that the United Kingdom agrees to the proposed extension."

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BigChocFrenzy · 28/10/2019 11:37

The formal notification by the EU, with full text, is expected within 24 hours, so BJ should formally agree by EOB Tuesday

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BigChocFrenzy · 28/10/2019 11:48

Pot Noodle, aka, Mark Francois looked BJ in the eye and believed his word 😂😂
A sweet video of this trusting expression of faith in a chronic liar:

David Schneiderr@davidschneider*

Mark Francois is going to lose his shit.
Johnson gave him his word we’d leave on 31st October.

mobile.twitter.com/davidschneider/status/1188754584078049285

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prettybird · 28/10/2019 11:50

Dh saw a similar "Clocks Go Back to...." meme on Twitter - except Farage's one was "Back to where they came from" Grin

prettybird · 28/10/2019 11:52

Grin at that Mark Francois quote ...... let's hope that on this occasion BJ is for once telling the truth Wink

Icantreachthepretzels · 28/10/2019 11:56

But ... credit where credit's due - Mark Francois does a cracking Boris Johnson impression.

DGRossetti · 28/10/2019 11:59

Pot Noodle, aka, Mark Francois looked BJ in the eye and believed his word

One liar believing another is an easy fix for a liar to get out of. Just lie some more:

do While beingaskedquestions

Response=int(rnd(0)*10)

select case response:

  1. I was taken out of context
  2. I wasn't taken out of context, but things have changed significantly.
  3. Boris never said that
  4. I never said that
  5. Who are you anyway ?
  6. At such a time of crisis, worrying about who said what to whom isn't very helpful
  7. I misspoke
  8. Boris misspoke
  9. Why are we talking about this when Corbyn has just had breakfast ?

end select
end do

BigChocFrenzy · 28/10/2019 12:00

NEW THREAD:

https://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/eureferendumm2016/3729218-Westministenders-The-weasel-DIDNT-die-in-a-ditch?watched=1

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Ellie56 · 28/10/2019 12:13

It's taken Mark Francois 20 years to find out Johnson is a lying twat? Hmm Grin Grin

BigChocFrenzy · 28/10/2019 12:19

Pot Noodle so far hasn't admitted to this lightbulb moment

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