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Westministenders: The One Where Everyone is an Election Expert For 3 Days

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RedToothBrush · 24/05/2019 17:40

The Vote has been cast.

The PM has quit. SHOCK!

We now face The Big Wait.

Waiting for the results. Waiting for the new leader. Waiting for a new direction.

Turnout looks likely to be up overall compared to 2014. Whether this is a good thing or a bad thing isn't clear.

At this stage realistically the only definite thing that I think you can actually speculate is the LDs have done very well indeed. Turnout is up in all traditional LD areas and remain areas in general. Though some LDs are getting a little carried away.

Does this mean that the Brexit Party will do badly? No. Its merely a reflection of demographic polarisation. And it may indeed help the Brexit Party ironically. It does suggest that Labour hasn't done well in the north (difference with 2014 turnouts worst in Labour areas) and there are hints that the Cons have done badly (Lincolnshire turnout for the locals was lower than for the EU elections). Something is happening in Wales. But no one seems to really understand what. Its gone 'rogue'!

Plus there are far more leave areas than remain ones. The increases in turnout possibly aren't enough to make a significant dent on the Brexit Party lead.

Not much of an increase in turnout in places like Derby, Middlesbrough, Hartlepool, Basildon, Leigh - which all have high leave figures suggest that the Brexit Party are not motivated those they persuaded to the polls for the first time in 2016 for the Ref to vote. Instead it means they can only increase their vote share with a further collapse in the Lab / Con vote from 2014. The question with this is how close were UKIP to the ceiling vote? If you didn't go with UKIP in 2014 would the ref change that? Does this mark it harder for them to hit close to 38% vote share? Argueably yes - but don't get too excited yet either. It doesn't mean they won't do very well, if there is a Lab/Con vote collaspe like the locals. I still would not be surprised by a mid-thirties result.

Psychologically the popular vote matters. This might be important for the future. The vote of those extra referedum voters hasn't been motivated by another protest vote under Farage. Who is going to try and court them? This affects the direction of all the parties.

The real issue is how the seats split down. With the vote fragmented between the LDs, Greens, Plaid and SNP the ranking is against them. And works for the Brexit Party.

Meanwhile Boris Johnson has vowed to crash the UK out the EU without a deal.... what internal numbers is he aware of???

Results due after 10pm Sunday.

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woman19 · 26/05/2019 20:43

Fingers and toes crossed, peregrina

Littlespaces · 26/05/2019 20:43

Who is staying up half the night to read the results coming in ?

Me. On tenterhooks now.

Hoping that all the people I know who persuaded their elderly parents to switch / abstain managed to improve the situation.

SusanWalker · 26/05/2019 20:43

Thinking about the turnout, if I had voted leave then watched the shitshow of the last 3 years and regretted my vote, I might just stay home and not vote rather than actively vote anti brexit.

Quintella · 26/05/2019 20:44

Big fat 10% increase in voter turnout in Edinburgh.

RedToothBrush · 26/05/2019 20:46

BBC Radio Stoke @BBCRadioStoke
The results of the EU elections will start being announced after 10 tonight. Stoke-on-Trent had the lowest turnout of all the West Midlands with 26.53%

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Quintella · 26/05/2019 20:47

So if the BP get 24 seats as per the Europe Elects prediction this is pretty much the same amount as UKIP got in 2014?

RedToothBrush · 26/05/2019 20:47

West Mids in full
(Still haven't put boy to bed so can't do comparison with 2014)

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RedToothBrush · 26/05/2019 20:49

Leeds Council News @LeedsCC_News
Overall turnout for all local authorities in the Yorkshire and Humber region for the #EUelections2019 was 33.52% . This is down marginally on the 33.63% who voted in the region in the 2015 European elections. #EUresultsYorksandHumber

www.itv.com/news/calendar/2019-05-26/yorkshire-humber-turnout-in-eu-elections-almost-unchanged-on-2014-at-one-third-of-possible-electorate/

Full list here.

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RedToothBrush · 26/05/2019 20:49

UKIP got 24 in 2014.

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RedToothBrush · 26/05/2019 20:51

Tonight is going to be vvvvvv interesting

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Violetparis · 26/05/2019 20:53

I read that a low turnout in the NW favours Tommy Robinson, just seen on Manchester Evening News that turnout overall is slightly down. (33.1% this time compared to 33.3% in 2014). Hopefully this is high enough to keep the idiot out.

HagridsBigToe · 26/05/2019 20:54

I hope this is true: twitter.com/fascinatorfun/status/1132684523794309120

BlackeyedGruesome · 26/05/2019 20:55

Stratford and Warwick sent buses to the EU march.

Peregrina · 26/05/2019 20:57

I have been on all the marches and Stratford and Warwick always send people - they are distinctive because they have Shakespeare on their banners.

Motherof3feminists · 26/05/2019 20:57

Remain areas up and leave areas down? If Red is happy then I'm happy.

I'll be checking the thread and the news when I wake up for one of my many loo trips 😩

My racist sister and BIL are on holiday so I'm hoping they didn't have the presence of mind to do a postal or proxy vote.

AutumnCrow · 26/05/2019 20:58

BBC, Sky, ITV, C4 or a mix? I think I'll flick around.

Violetparis · 26/05/2019 21:00

HagridsBigToe I think that is broadly in line with the polls for Labour so is probably true.

woman19 · 26/05/2019 21:01

(@AnushkaAsthana)
Gosh Tory source saying looks like party about to lose all MEPs apart from maybe one in south east tonight in #EuropeanElection2019 . Almost total wipe out. 😮

TokyoSushi · 26/05/2019 21:02

I'm starting with Sky now as they seem to have their results programme on earliest and then I'll flick from 10pm

RedToothBrush · 26/05/2019 21:02

Another prediction with a range. This isn't as favourable

Nigel Marriott @marriottnigel
Ok here is my thread for tonight's results of #EP2019 in the UK. As they come in, I will add a tweet showing how each region did compared to my forecast. Orig forecast from Tues along with my methodology is here
t.co/u4ZCmLmkVe and my final forecast is shown below. /1

Projected vote shares for main FCAST are in this chart. BRX have a chance of record share for any party in d'Hondt era and LD should be looking for their record share. CON on course to beat LAB's worse performance of 2009 /2

Not posting whole thread as its a bit confusing

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Peregrina · 26/05/2019 21:03

Let's not count our chickens woman19. Sadly, if they got the one in the South East then we are stuck with Hannan, because he's no 1 on the Tory list there.

HazardGhost · 26/05/2019 21:05

woman if that's true Shock

They have been so shite as a party but voted for time and time again.

RedToothBrush · 26/05/2019 21:05

Mother, I'm happier than i was.

The Brexit Party still could have a very big night yet.

But the LDs / greens certainly are going to exceed expectations I think and tbh that's all we can really hope for.

The narrative might be about the Brexit Party but both party's know that in order to have any future they are going to have to do something. Their current strategy isn't working.

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RedToothBrush · 26/05/2019 21:07

If torys only end up with one seat, then Brexit party win even more seats and so do LDs.

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HagridsBigToe · 26/05/2019 21:09

I was going to to go to bed, but think I'll stay up as long as possible to watch.

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