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"There's something else going on. This isn't about a virus"

316 replies

Iremembertheelderlykoreanlady · 09/10/2020 13:00

So I've seen this in a few posts.

The idea that there is something "else" going on or that the restrictions being put in place aren't for the virus, they are for "something bigger"

So would anyone care to share what they think this "something bigger" actually is, rather than vague mutterings on other posts?

Government practising control on the population for shits and giggles whilst the economy goes tits up?

5G?

Zombie apocolpypse?

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The80sweregreat · 10/10/2020 11:42

Annabelle85.
I guess that the conspiracy theory people will say that they have 'let it rip thorough the elderly ' with their terrible handling at the beginning and how much care homes were affected by lack of ppe and letting covid patients back into their homes from hospital.
Which is all true and it was it only because of social media and people highlighting these problems that led to a bit more of a structured approach and the staff getting the right equipment.
Eugenics was mentioned to me by a nurse back in March. Survival of the fittest. Some actually want this to happen. No more lockdowns or anything. The Sweden approach. I've heard it all !
People will always have theories and views about this but there is also a school of thought that why prolong life if someone is very very old and hasnt any quality of life at all? Not that I'm suggesting they should just let people die , but it's how some might think about this.
Let's face it, the government may also be saving a lot of money here too especially the ones not getting cancer treatments because of the virus. Makes my own head hurt just thinking about it all.
It's all very grim.

MagpieSong · 10/10/2020 12:43

@annabel85

I don't get why people would say about population control. If it was then surely they'd have just left it free to wipe millions and millions of elderly people, rather than essentially shutting the world down to stop millions more dying.
It's impossible to get. It doesn't make sense, much like the idea that masks are dangerously full of bacteria and killing people left, right and centre. You have to ignore the facts to believe it (like builders wearing a N95 mask and being fine). It's nutty.
SaskiaRembrandt · 10/10/2020 12:50

I'm pretty sure it's the pigeon thing. The pigeon that lived in my garden disappeared around the start of lockdown, and hasn't come back!

DH says it has probably been eaten by the fox that lives in our neighbour's garden, but really, how likely is that?

DilysPrice · 10/10/2020 13:10

I agree Magpie. The eugenics theory would make perfect sense as a conspiracy if the government had gone for the herd immunity approach, but they haven’t, all of them with the possible exception of the Swedes, the Brazilians and bits of the US have gone for extraordinarily economically costly lockdowns.

The80sweregreat · 10/10/2020 13:35

If they had gone for herd immunity would there be the support for it?
It seems to me that whatever the government tried to do would have been wrong. I'm no fan of them , but what a choice to have put in front of you! It
Makes my head hurt thinking about it.

Newmum3200 · 10/10/2020 17:37

Tootrue you are dead right. Been thinking for ages I would actually feel better about the shit state of affairs if our government was even capable of coming up with a plan, never mind executing one!

Applepie05 · 10/10/2020 17:50

I haven’t read the full thread so may be a repeat.

Not saying I believe this but I actually think we’re in the middle of WW3. Chemical warfare with viruses or something similar. Think back to the start of the year, it was said to be starting..

user1472151176 · 10/10/2020 17:52

One moment we're on the brink of WW3, the next moment all world leaders are conspiring and trying to control the masses 🙄

AndNoneForGretchenWieners · 10/10/2020 18:24

Some dickhead on my local newspaper's Facebook page posited the theory today that it is a "great reset" and we are being taken back 100 years to save the planet forcibly, everyone goes out less, Sunday trading will stop, licensing laws will revert back to what they were years ago, car ownership will be rare, no foreign travel because all the airlines will be forced to go bust, holidays in the UK will be the only ones we are allowed, no immigration will be permitted, and it is all planned by the EU and Illuminati with Greta Thunberg as a consultant. I read it with my jaw open.

TazMac · 10/10/2020 18:43

Isn't Bill Gates going to inject us all with microchips?

I heard this too. I can’t work out why Bill Gates wants to know how often I go to Aldi though.

DilysPrice · 10/10/2020 18:44

Applepie05 is there any chance you could clarify this remark?
“Not saying I believe this but I actually think..”

Snowbellsandgold · 10/10/2020 18:55

I don’t think it’s about them not believing there is a virus, I think it’s more of how it’s been handled 🤣😱 don’t wear a mask, wear a mask, dine out on 50% off ... close all bars and restaurants 😂😂😂 what kind of foolishness

itwaseverthus · 10/10/2020 18:59

@AndNoneForGretchenWieners

Some dickhead on my local newspaper's Facebook page posited the theory today that it is a "great reset" and we are being taken back 100 years to save the planet forcibly, everyone goes out less, Sunday trading will stop, licensing laws will revert back to what they were years ago, car ownership will be rare, no foreign travel because all the airlines will be forced to go bust, holidays in the UK will be the only ones we are allowed, no immigration will be permitted, and it is all planned by the EU and Illuminati with Greta Thunberg as a consultant. I read it with my jaw open.
It is the Great Reset, straight from the World Economic Forum's website. Some of the detail your friend mentioned is not in this article but elsewhere on WEF and UN, WHO sites. Time people woke up from their seven months paid holidays. www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/06/now-is-the-time-for-a-great-reset/
Nanalisa60 · 10/10/2020 19:07

Yes there is something going on!! loads of people aren’t getting there cancer treatments, and heart operations, and NHS awaiting list is so
Long most people will probably die waiting for they life saving treatments, mental health of the nation is at a all time low, the suicide rate will be sky high in the new year!!

By the time this fiasco is finished there will be six million unemployed, loads of people will lose there homes.

By next week we will all be having to wear mask at work, in the street, walking up a bloody mountain.

I really now believe we will never get back to what our lives were before,

Why do people not realise that the cure is worse then the virus, my 90 year old FIL even says it’s mental to be doing everything to keep the old alive when we are destroying the prospects of the young!!

Sheogorath · 10/10/2020 19:12

@Devlesko

Can'tdothisnow1

I got your sarcasm.
I do find those that don't question at all and believe everything they are told, tend to lack a sense of humour and are quick to shout conspiracy where there isn't one, at all. Grin

And I find those who call anyone who doesnt believe their Facebook conspiracies, or in your case those who work normal jobs, sheeple to be lacking in brain cells. But whatever makes you feel special.
Devlesko · 10/10/2020 19:14

I really now believe we will never get back to what our lives were before

A lot of people have seen this from the start. Once you start telling the world we have a new normal, it's pretty obvious.
Propaganda was telling us this immediately, almost from day one.
Dystopia was planned long before any virus, it's just made a convenient excuse.

Devlesko · 10/10/2020 19:19

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Sheogorath · 10/10/2020 19:27

@Devlesko

Sheogorath

And I find those who call anyone who doesn't believe their Facebook conspiracies, or in your case those who work normal jobs, sheeple to be lacking in brain cells.

Aw, sorry to piss on your chips, but I don't have any conspiracies on my fb. If the cap fits about you being a sheeple though, that must be so sad to spend your life like that, what a waste
Have you ever questioned anything, lol.

Yes, I question most things. Including conspiracies that people like you like to spread. There's questioning things, and then there's automatically believing bullshit for no reason other than it's not mainstream.
AndNoneForGretchenWieners · 10/10/2020 19:41

itwaseverthus what paid holiday? I've worked all the way through. Like my fellow civil servants. Honestly, people who genuinely believe this frighten me. You can't be seriously suggesting that this is happening?

pantherrose · 10/10/2020 19:59

Hmm. Look up event 201 pandemic ‘simulation’ hosted by the John Hopkins Institute on 18/10/19. Also, I could also accept one or two governments handling it badly, but one could be forgiven for thinking that something is distinctly off, when almost every govt seems to be following a policy of disinformation, senseless u turns, contradicting rules and refs that people struggle to follow etc, etc. Why did France sell its PPE stocks to Morocco just before Covid officially arrived? There are far too many unanswered questions that will naturally give rise to conspiracy theories....

winniestone37 · 10/10/2020 20:38

Twats the lot of them.

winniestone37 · 10/10/2020 20:41

@pantherrose I can tell you exactly what’s gone wrong a large proportion of the worlds leaders put money before people. That’s it. This makes them stupid, small minded and stupid as greed so often does, no big secret love. You’re ridiculous.

winniestone37 · 10/10/2020 20:45

@DevleskoI think you’ll find most people question things but they follow facts and not fear. You are genuinely ridiculous.

ShinyHappyPeopleHoldingHaands · 10/10/2020 20:50

@Velvian

Where are all these people that believe this stuff? They must be hiding in plain sight, terrifying!

I haven't worried about the population this much since all those people called the police to say that it was Steve that murdered Saskia!

There’s one who keeping sending me links on Messenger and footage of mad rants from some woman called Jaclyn. I’ve asked him to stop. He hasn’t done Hmm
Futureal · 10/10/2020 20:51

Just because people come to a different conclusion to you doesn't mean they don't question things.