"There's something else going on. This isn't about a virus"

[Iremembertheelderlykoreanlady]

So I've seen this in a few posts.

The idea that there is something "else" going on or that the restrictions being put in place aren't for the virus, they are for "something bigger"

So would anyone care to share what they think this "something bigger" actually is, rather than vague mutterings on other posts?

Government practising control on the population for shits and giggles whilst the economy goes tits up?

5G?

Zombie apocolpypse?

You missed the bit about all the Swedes involved being in agreement.

You must have forgotten that bit.

@Heffalooomia

The other thing that's going on is opportunists scrambling to 'make hay while the sun shines' i.e. don't let a good crisis go to waste

This has the highest possibility imho. Contracts for mates

@cyclingmad

Wow some of you are unbelievable and really can't just see what is going on, you actually believe they won't microchip people?

They have already started trialling it elsewhere:

In Sweden, a country rich with technological advancement, thousands have had microchips inserted into their hands. The chips are designed to speed up users' daily routines and make their lives more convenient — accessing their homes, offices and gyms is as easy as swiping their hands against digital readers.

Oh opps sorry this makes me a conspiracy theorist or maybe some of us just look further a field and see whats going on

And before you say it won't happen here think again..

The social point system trialling in China where your deducted points if you don't conform meaning you cannot travel etc...think it won't happen here?

Already been in the press of a health passport... or potentially only being able to go to bars, restaurants, events if you test negative.....and yes if they are saying maybe well as we have already seen maybe have turned into reality

Like I said a few yrs back when they said smart meters would never be used to allow energy companies to turn your electricity off, now they are reviewing legislation to make that happen

Good luck believing they would never do this , like some of you here say we make this up cos we are scared well I say some of u who refuse to believe are too scared to realise how bad the world really is

Agree with this. If there is technology they can abuse, they will. I don't think it is even debatable, human nature is what it is. History proves this over and over

Obviously they picked people who would day yes, then they start the wider roll out other companies adopt it and so forth are you really so blind you cant see that. If your with company and they say we are doing this and you don't want to what then you will have to leave your job.

Good luck with that.

And like I said you can say its just one company well it started by one company in Sweden, now there is 150 people in th UK trying ot and also in Wisconin America....it was only one company in one country and now its 3 countries

Dent it all you like, but history shows otherwise. Only have to look at the smart meter stuff to realise!

But thats okay you stay in your ignorance and call me a sheep, conspiracy theorist blah blah but when information is there and factual information that cannot be denied and you still refuse to believe then who is the fool now

We all love to live in this notion that governments are good and blah blah but look around evidence to the contrary

How obvious it has been moreso now in this pandemic than ever before.

Only have to see the Epstein documentary to realise how powerful a single person can be and how influence they can have over powerful people and institutions and yet you baulk at the idea that all governments could be in this together. So if one person could get away with it for so long imagine what 10 or 20 or 30 powerful people could do etc.

See I would be open to having a chip put into me which could double up as key cards, bank cards etc etc

I mean I’m tracked by my phone anyway

Oh and let's look bsck to March when they were telling us this is the new normal how many people on here were like like no we will go bsck to normal

7 months later you dont hear then use the word new normal because we are in the new normal. Only have to look at the traffic light system to see that there is no mention of the previous normal a life with no masks etc.

The best you'll get is when your area is green (tier1) if they really were for the people you would have a level for previous normal (pre covid) but there is no mention of that and hasn't been for months.

You can already see the pattern now...tier 2 or 3 up to April then they will relax it to tier 1 for summer months then back again....

@MostDisputesDieAndNoOneShoots

Changing the batteries in the pigeons, innit.

This 🤣

I mean I’m tracked by my phone anyway

Well, precisely.

I’m sorry pp but if you think that the governments of say, Iran, USA, New Zealand and pretty much everyone are secretly colluding in tandem to use cv as a means to gods know what, then in my opinion you are paranoid, and use these ct’s as a sort of comfort blanket.

Conspiracy theories don’t mix well with either critical thinking or scientific consensus. They mix perfectly with social media and herd mentality (who’s really the sheep, eh?) If that’s unimportant to you then fine, carry on but dont expect those who do value science and actual knowledge to listen; most of it falls flat on its face once you start asking very basic questions.

The CT types I know are all massive weed smokers, and not particularly clever or bright.

The CT types I know are all massive weed smokers, and not particularly clever or bright.

Add in heavy drinkers with no off line life.

Okay so your happy to be chipped so your company knows where you are 24/7, there was a poster on another thread whose company had told them to not go to bars or restaurants incase they got covid and that would be seen as negligence and reason to sack them.

So your comfortable your company could dictate your life like that and then through a chip know if you did or not?

And what next are you happy then if we move to that type of world to accept risks that if someone whats to steal your chip they could cut it out of you, chop your hand off?

Then a chip will come with a number to be logged against your name, why do you need a name then? How many time you seen people with same names in company rather easier to use your chip number right, completely unique.

You will think this is outlandish but its not and it'll happen sooner than you think.

I'm all for technology advancements but there are some things that should just not happen and microchippong people is one of them.

@cyclingmad

Okay so your happy to be chipped so your company knows where you are 24/7, there was a poster on another thread whose company had told them to not go to bars or restaurants incase they got covid and that would be seen as negligence and reason to sack them.

So your comfortable your company could dictate your life like that and then through a chip know if you did or not?

And what next are you happy then if we move to that type of world to accept risks that if someone whats to steal your chip they could cut it out of you, chop your hand off?

Then a chip will come with a number to be logged against your name, why do you need a name then? How many time you seen people with same names in company rather easier to use your chip number right, completely unique.

You will think this is outlandish but its not and it'll happen sooner than you think.

I'm all for technology advancements but there are some things that should just not happen and microchippong people is one of them.

I agree with everything you’ve said. It’s alarming that it’s already happening though.

I appreciate that the current conspiracy theory on the microchipping had its roots in real life however the problem is when it gets tagged (mischievously imo) onto vaccination programmes.

Let me ask those who are happy to be chipped what good do you think will happen from it?

When cars were made keyless they are still being stolen so what do you think will happen with chips, criminals will still disable them and people will continue to be murdered, kidnapped and trafficked.

What greater good will it achieve other than convenience to you to not have to carry around a bank card or work pass?

You think it will being some good but history shows that the rich and ceiminals continue to get away with it and what happens to the rest of us its our freedom and rights that are eroded

Look whats happening now, our freedom is being curtailed we are the ones having to go through it meanwhile politicians carry on rules dont apply to them.....is that the greater good you all yearned for when this started and look whats happened...those in power and position dont abide but the rest of us have to.

Look how Boris father isn't being fined for breaking rules yet you break the rules and you will get that fine......

You think being chipped is fine but it'll be who suffers in the end

But by all means carry on thinking its for the benefit of everyone and the greater good, that its fine and not a problem..so what right!

There is no going back now, cashless society here we come and as arms get shut down just think about how hard it'll be to access your money. Only have to look at how many times Barlaston, HSBC have had major IT problems and people cannot access.money to see what the future will be like. Not being able to touch for money for what 1-2 days and as cash is phased out then so will atms. Imagine you needed to buy food that day and you cannot cos your bank has gone down and then its not fixed for the second day. Just think about that.

One poster has said they wouldn't mind being chipped. Could you perhaps direct your rants @ that person instead of shouting at everyone else?

You have won the CT Bingo full house though with your effortless segueing from Sweden to Boris's dad, to human trafficking to car theft, to cash machines not working to losing your name to companies telling you not to go down Spoons to ..and breathe.
(And no, I wouldn't want to be chipped)

Why bundle all these issues together?

It actually makes the overall "conspiracy"
far less credible.

"Effortlessly segueing"

Exactly. Try harder.

Boris isn't suddenly going to go ta-da and unzip his head.

Might be an improvement ... .

Okay can we just microchip Boris’s dad though? I want to know when he’s off to the pub/Italy/HIGNFY.

I'm not bundling them together its examples of what is going on.

But honestly whatever I really don't care if you want to believe it or not. People said they were happy to be chipped im just responding to that.

If you cant see how the wealthy and powerful are expecting YOU to follow rules they set whilst they don't and just sit back and take it then thats on you but don't come crying when its too late.

If you want to sit in your belief that governments etc wouldn't do this, then your blind to how much evil there is, humanity is sick. Sick to the core.

We haven't improved on trafficking or any of these awful things in decades and we never will.

In 10 years time we will still have racism, how sick is humanity that in 2030 we will still have racism and other awful things happening. Yet you still sit in your blief that governments aren't colluding together blah blah blah

If you want to sit in your belief that governments etc wouldn't do this

Wouldn’t do what? What is it you think governments are doing or going to do? What does this have to with trafficking?

And no I don’t think that all the world’s governments are colluding together to plan, given that many of them absolutely hate each other.

Do they really or is that the perception they show you? Do they really hate each other yet they host them over in our century? Still make deals and work together

Like I said some of here say were so scared to accept reality we make this up, well I say that those who think that are so scared to really see what is happening in the world and accept the truth.

Do Israel and Iran hate each other? Do North Korea and most of the rest of the world hate each other? Yes, really yes they do.

Again, what is it you actually think governments are doing or going to do here? What is it you think is really happening in the world, other than Bad Things?

Do they really or is that the perception they show you?

Paranoid, with a weak grasp of the reality of the situation. Yes, some government do actually really not like each other.

Like I said some of here say were so scared to accept reality we make this up, well I say that those who think that are so scared to really see what is happening in the world and accept the truth

No, it’s because they’ve looked at the claims being made, and due to a little thing call common sense, decided that on balance it’s likely to be a load of unsubstantiated old bollocks.

Im afraid of a great many things that are very real- climate destruction for one. I’m not afraid of Bill Gates injecting nano tech robots into me because a- they don’t exist and b- why on earth would he anyway?