"There's something else going on. This isn't about a virus"

[Iremembertheelderlykoreanlady]

So I've seen this in a few posts.

The idea that there is something "else" going on or that the restrictions being put in place aren't for the virus, they are for "something bigger"

So would anyone care to share what they think this "something bigger" actually is, rather than vague mutterings on other posts?

Government practising control on the population for shits and giggles whilst the economy goes tits up?

5G?

Zombie apocolpypse?

A lot of what cyclingmad is posting is straight from the QAnon textbook.

Is that what you're part of, @cyclingmad? A bit of honesty from you here would help us assess your credibility.

The virus has been engineered by the Chinese to kill off old, obese men - but Trump survived - incompetent governments are worldwide!

The virus has been engineered by the Chinese

And if you actually read articles by scientists across the globe that have made this their entire life studies, you’d understand why that’s not true.

But you’re watching randims on YouTube aren’t you.

At this stage, if the zombie apocalypse happened - would anyone notice?

@Lonelycrab

The virus has been engineered by the Chinese

And if you actually read articles by scientists across the globe that have made this their entire life studies, you’d understand why that’s not true.

But you’re watching randims on YouTube aren’t you.

I think pp is talking about a conspiracy theory!

Here is Bill Gates Ted Talk on innovate fo zero about reducing co2 zero. At 2.41 he says to do this here is a formula and one of the aspects of the formula is people and that we are at x billion now and in so many years we will be increasing to xx billion so to reduce the people number through using vaccines etc we can reduce this by 10 to 15% of people

Someone explain that one away

He talked about reducing the population of people along with other factors in the formula to reduce co2 to zero

Yes. We often use that particular Ted talk in class.
What's your point?

@cyclingmad

Here is Bill Gates Ted Talk on innovate fo zero about reducing co2 zero. At 2.41 he says to do this here is a formula and one of the aspects of the formula is people and that we are at x billion now and in so many years we will be increasing to xx billion so to reduce the people number through using vaccines etc we can reduce this by 10 to 15% of people

Someone explain that one away

Did you miss the phrase "reproductive health care"?

Well according to David Icke the virus doesn't exist but at the same time it is being spread by 5G.

There is no going back now, cashless society here we come and as arms get shut down just think about how hard it'll be to access your money.

There are still businesses local to me that are cash only. There is always a queue outside the post office on a morning where people are taking benefit money out with their books because they don't have bank accounts or don't trust 'them' not to trace where they are taking money out of cash machines.

He said if we do a really good job at new vaccines and healthcare and reproductive healthcare we can reduce that by 10- 15%

Don't cherry pick his words.

Reproductive healthcare simply is conception in poorer countries like Africa to prevent pregnancies. So I can see how this contributes to lowering population number.

How do new vaccines contribute to reducing the population?? Arent vaccines used to prevent you falling ill from which virus its for?

The vaccines are to reduce childhood diseases to a point where having more than a couple of children makes less sense.

If the childhood mortality is high people will carry on having big families , in general.

What your evidence on that?

I don't know the specific evidence but they teach it in school geography.

@cyclingmad

He said if we do a really good job at new vaccines and healthcare and reproductive healthcare we can reduce that by 10- 15%

Don't cherry pick his words.

Reproductive healthcare simply is conception in poorer countries like Africa to prevent pregnancies. So I can see how this contributes to lowering population number.

How do new vaccines contribute to reducing the population?? Arent vaccines used to prevent you falling ill from which virus its for?

You know that feeling when you read sentences in what you know is a language you recognise, but you have fuck all clue what's being said?

I'm having that here.

What are you on about?

Look at western countries and the average number of children people have. Look at developing countries and the average number of children people have.

Vaccines = fewer diseases = lower childhood mortality. So people will have fewer children, secure in the knowledge that they are very likely to live to adulthood. Therefore the population of the world will reduce, and the people who remain will have a better standard of living. Win-win.

Honestly, if Gates really was part of a conspiracy to kill people via vaccines, would he really give a bloody TED talk on it? Not much of a bloody conspiracy!

@pointythings

But that isn't the sole reason why they have lots of children

In some cultures and religions they do not accept contraception at all

In poorer countries having more children is a sign of virility and also more children bring more income into the family and to ability to look after parents

Those reason should also have been included in his speech aswell. Because you won't see a decrease in population if you don't tackle all the issues that cause the increase

I think he focuses on where his money can be spent to make a difference.

@bibbitybobbitycats

Honestly, if Gates really was part of a conspiracy to kill people via vaccines, would he really give a bloody TED talk on it? Not much of a bloody conspiracy!

That's what he WANTS you to think!!

Poor Bill Gates.

Asterion ooh, sneaky Bill!

If you go back not very far at all into the history of Western Europe, you'll see we had exactly the same issues with regards to stigma around contraception, religion and virility. Our culture changed. It took time, but it happened.

Put cynically: once people learn that having fewer children means they will be wealthier and have happier lives, faith tends to have less of a hold. People become more secular or express their religion in other ways.

How does Bill Gates’s evil plan to murder 10-15% of the population jibe with Bill Gates’s actual work pouring in money to eradicate malaria? Wouldn’t it be easier to just let malaria kill people?

Look at western countries and the average number of children people have. Look at developing countries and the average number of children people have.

Don't underestimate female literacy and female education.

Look at India, education varies by states, where it is free until the age of 18 for girls many more stay in school and the parents have fewer children. They still expect their children to look after them but expect the children to be in better jobs.

These girls in turn have fewer children.