Two short videos showing Israelis protesting against Israel's war against Iran and Israelis protesting against Israel state police

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Two short videos showing Israelis protesting against the actions of the Israeli state, and Israelis protesting against Israel state police.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6dJFfliqKQs

I am sorry, I linked the wrong video, here is a short video of the recent protests:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6dJFfliqKQs

And more recent orthodox protesters in Israel:

The link which doesn't work is from "youtube shorts" and you can copy and paste.

This is another report from Wion from Feb 26

And? What’s your point?

I can send you footage of hundreds of Israelis who are in favour.

Israel is a democracy. It’s allowed to protest against the government, against war or whatever, and Israelis do it all the time. However it would be misleading to suggest that there are widespread protests against the current war. One reason is that large gatherings are banned for safety reasons. Outdoor gatherings of more than 50 people are not permitted in most of the country as people wouldn’t be able to reach shelter in time in case of a missile attack (and remember that most Israelis experience missile alerts in their area multiple times a day at the moment).

Another reason is that frankly most people are struggling to function on depleted sleep, no childcare/school for the last month etc. Honestly most people I know aren’t really thinking about whether they agree with the war or not (that’s really a luxury for people outside with a calm place to think) - and in any case it’s really hard to draw conclusions without knowing what the ongoing implications will be. Nobody wants war but also nobody wants an endless round of short wars against Iran, and the threat of the Iranian nuclear programme is very real to Israelis.

Thanks. It’s good to see proof that Israel is nothing like Iran and Israeli citizens have the right to protest for peace without fear of arrest, torture, extrajudicial murder, or state sanctioned murder.

Can you do that, then? I would be interested to see both sides.

Wow loaded comment. There is no reason or excuse to invade Iran illegally -not your implied reasons or any others.

Also, just to educate a little, people in Iran have said that the peaceful protesters did not get arrested, tortured, and that changes were effected to meet their concerns. It was rioters who were killing who were arrested and shot at.

I agree with many of your points and the same applies in many areas of the world, which makes these protests interesting. I have also seen Israeli comments online that people don't want to be seen as disloyal over the last few years, and so their comments are usually couched carefully, as questions rather than outright criticisms.

In Europe diesel and food costs are rocketing and people are struggling to survive in a financial sense.

Nobody wants war but also nobody wants an endless round of short wars against Iran, and the threat of the Iranian nuclear programme is very real to Israelis
I think the nuclear threat is also very real to Iranians and they also don't want war, long or short. I think there are diplomatic, legal solutions available to both the US and Israel, and from where we are sitting bombing Iran is more about geopolitics power and control than defence. A two state solution in relation to Palestine/Israel is probably the only way of achieving long term peace?

Iran said.... bunch of liars.

Revealing names and faces of the victims of Iran's protest crackdown

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c62v248xkl5o

They save the killing for Palestinian protesters.

https://theintercept.com/2024/09/17/israel-aysenur-eygi-protesters-killing-west-bank/

https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/israel-resumed-deliberate-use-excessive-and-lethal-force-against-palestinian-protesters-gaza-killing-one-and-injuring-eight

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/mar/17/israel.usa

https://www.972mag.com/gaza-return-march-idf/

Bullsgit & propaganda. 10s of 1000s of ordinary Iranians have been slaughtered by the murderous regime of the Islamic Republic. No changes have been effected.

Thanks for posting these OP. It’s heartening to see Israelis standing up against the terrible actions of their state.

I’m a bit confused why so many replies are basically “Iranian state bad”. Do people honestly believe that the Iranian state being “bad” makes Israel’s actions justifiable?

I don't agree with Iran being attacked by Israel and the US. But your comment is a complete crock of shit. Everyone knows what the Iranian leadership stands for, and peaceful protest is not something they will tolerate. Ffs what world do you live in where you can stand up for people like that.

"Iranian state bad" because the Iranian regime IS bad.

It's not a competition.

It's hardly confusing why people would say the Iranian regime is bad.

Sorry, but where did I mention invading Iran was ok?
Your thread is about freedom to protest.
I said am happy to see that Israelis are protesting for peace.
If I were pro-illegal invasions and pro-war wouldn’t I be unhappy to see peace protesters?

I’d like a source for these people in Iran saying no peaceful protesters have been arrested? Especially since I’ve seen CCTV footage of women being beaten up by IRGC for protesting and there are news reports of women being tortured/beaten to death while in police custody.

Interesting that you didn't read what I said.

I didn't say "iran said..."

I said "people in Iran have said.."

Normal people. Giving a different POV from the ones stated here as fact. In fact, in recent protests in London you will find Iranians supporting Iran and saying that what has been said about Iran is not true. Normal people.

There has been spin and propaganda for decades. The anti Iran people now support Pahlavi, yet his father as the Shah said that there had been lies spread about Iran and that there was covert control. What we are seeing now is perhaps geopolitics and covert control in action and not Israel and the US trying to save the world from Iran?

What Iran has said, interestingly, is that they are saving the rest of the world.

I’m not confused as to why people would say the Iranian regime is bad. of course it is. I am questioning why it is many people’s response to the OP.

What is the relevance of the Iranian state being bad to the OP’s post and to Israelis protesting against Israel’s actions?

Thank you! That was a crock of shit response. Iran is under a terrible regime where millions are suffering, that doesn’t make an illegal unprovoked war on them acceptable, which is why I would guess Israeli peace protesters have taken to the streets. You can desperately want better for the Iranian people and be completely against starting a war with Iran,

I really don’t know, OP decided to introduce that to the thread.

So you’re suggesting Iran is a democracy now? 🤨

I apologise if I misunderstood, it was because what you had said was very one sided and so I did assume that your comment was loaded. I will find some links and post as you request.

Yes, I know. Lots of other threads on that topic. Although I would think a fair number of the Israel peace protesters also protested against the Gaza war and the overall ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian Territories.

Apology accepted.
Your OP was one sided so I stuck to the parameters of that. It’s fine to praise the good in a country even when it is going through dark times imho.

What is the relevance of the Iranian state being bad to the OP’s post and to Israelis protesting against Israel’s actions?

Because the protesters are specifically protesting the war Israel and US started with Iran. They are not defending Iran or protesting because Iran is wonderful. It’s important to note why they are protesting despite Iran being a horrible country for human rights.