Trump throwing a lot of people under the bus because of stock markets?

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When you start a war you finish it in my opinion. There has been no other war that has been stopped because of a slide on the Dow Jones or an oil price spike. For Trump to now prematurely call an end to the war simply because of economics will simply mean IIrans drone terrorism has worked.

The people of Iran will be left with a job half done without the space needed for an uprising.

A new leader with good reason to ideological hate Israel and the US will realise the only method of future deterrence of Iran is through acquiring a nuclear weapon as their conventional weapons were obliterated. Iran will now do everything possible to acquire such a weapon.

This is a time for resolve Mr. President. There is still a chance to destroy this regime maybe with limited target ground troop assaults. The world actually will be safer if you continue.

It protects rogue states who torture and oppress their people. It also gives licence to develop nuclear weapons that the leaders would use.

If you do nothing the problem won’t go away, it gets closer to being pretty fatal.

But high debt is what has been encouraged. The banks profit of it. For wach morthage, they get a lot of capital. The higher the mortgage the better for them. They are a huge factor in driving property values up. It is in their interest.
Yes, a change will help us to build resilience. And I hope it happens, but in a controlled way. Not 2008 crisis multiplied by 100. Worst than the major energy crisis of the past, combined. If Trump, Israel and Iran stick to their crazy rethoric ( I think they will not, by the way)
It is getting more complex by the minute to identify any "good" guys into this conflict. Trump has threatened both Canada and Greenland. Same as he did with Venezuela and Iran, and then went ahead and did it. Even with not a draft of a proper plan with regards to Iran. Trump is making allies into enemies, by the minute. Our governments have to worry about their million of citizens and the incoming global crisis.
We just had an arson or similar attack on UK soil. One that slipped the net. I think nobody has died. But at least 30 people had to be taken out of their homes. 4 ambulances gone. And the precious difficult to rebuild trust. We still need to wait for the investigation to be sure of who isthe perpetrator.
We are considerably worst than before this war started, bar Iran's military has been rather damaged.

Fair enough! I apologise for the incorrect assumption.

No need to apologise! I should have been clearer.

I think you and @Alexandra2001 have made important points about the potential economic effects.
It has the potential to get far worse than what either of you have stated. I hope that it does not. As I have said several times before, this war was always going to be a total disaster from the start. The US have waded in with no strategy whatsoever and are now totally stuck. I have heard that the US administration was messaging Iranian politicians over the weekend begging for a ceasefire and that the Iranians said no.

Morning, I understand the discrepancy between futures and physical oil but the price of futures has dropped to $90 this morning having opened last night at $98 ish. Do you know why that is happening? Is it optimism about how things are going (that would require a lot of drugs) or is the price just being managed by the release of strategic reserves? Several countries are already making significant adjustments to cope with shortages so that seems unlikely. The market is clearly being manipulated but how?

I'm surprised about how many people still do not grasp how serious this is. The deadline Trump issued for the S of H to be opened expires at about 00.45 UK time after which he's threatening to bomb civilian energy infrastructure. In return Iran have said if he does that all bets are off and they will target desalination plants. I alternate between pretending its particularly dark reality TV and despair.

I think the entire world knows how serious is. Those folk that read the news anyway.

In any case, it appears to be over ?

why would anyone take Trump at his word? He’ll change his mind. Again.

It is easy to get caught out by these fake posts as he could easily have said it. I have made the mistake a few times too.

You might need something stronger to deal with scrolling through his TS account

Morning FOJN, I'll be absolutely honest and say I have no fucking clue about what is happening with the markets right now. My friends who are trader's are just as confused.

I do know that if you follow Trumps "Truths" posts they always seem to happen around the time that markets would close/open (US due to open soon). Like @RedTagAlan has posted above, that "5 day pause" will coincide perfectly with the markets closing on Friday. Trump and the US treasury appear to be manipulating the market.

Tasnim News an Iranian news channel has just announced that Iran is not in talks with America, which confirms what Aragachi said a few days ago.

Historically a with a conflict like this you would expect the price of commodities like Oil and Gas to rise. The same with precious metals (Gold, Silver) instead the prices are crashing.

Someone or an entity is selling off their positions in order to push the prices down or cover other losses.

Of course he will. He is doing his usual TACO.

I reckon they have run out of missile interceptors, and Iran is still firing missiles. He really has no choice. He can't win.

Cuba next. Iran is too hard. He could not get Greenland. So now it's Cuba.

The issue is still there, it’ll come back and most will wish it wasn’t. If they’re in the UK.

Yes, I’ve seen the posts about hospitals in Cuba struggling for power. It’s horrific. The US are paving the way for another ‘excursion’.

It did sound like him, and having watched hours of his press conferences and rallies in the past, I was like it's him.

It is a doozy to follow, I do have a Truth social account after the "Great Twitter purges of 2021" and if you see some of the replies from his followers they literally treat him like a God.

It seems some will celebrate that Iran have won, you’d be mad to in the U.K., especially if you’ve got dc, we’d be first up if they did get the weapons.

@Smeuse Some responses to Trump’s latest post 🫣

Wow

The pictures of him being prayed on in the WH prayer groups are bad enough, this takes it to another level.

I saw these too. Suddenly a lot of posts about Cuba. The entire world held hostage by one mad man.

If who are in the UK ?

Anyone commenting on the issue. I can understand people who are not feeling more immune due to geography but the reason all G7 agree on Iran is because MAD is likely to escalate.

I'm not convinced that many people understand that fuel rationing, electricity blackouts and food shortages could be a consequence of this conflict.

I've just seen the BBC report Trumps truth social post on their YouTube channel. There seems to be a high degree of scepticism in the comments that this is Trump's attempt at market manipulation and that no negotiations have taken place. He issued his ultimatum within the last two days which would be an odd thing to do if negotiations were being productive. I'd like to believe it but I'll wait and see.

Given you keep repeating that the G7 keep saying Iran has nukes, is there anyone else who they also say should not have nukes ?

And I don't see why being in the UK makes any difference really. Nuke war does sort of effect everyone ?

I've concluded there are two types of TDS; he can't do anything right and he can't do anything wrong, I've not previously been afflicted with either but it seems clear now that he's quite dangerously out of control.

I saw a meme earlier that said:

"If you haven't got a clue what you're doing, neither will your enemy"
Don Tzu

No you’ve got their position wrong. It’s that they can’t have them.

And yes it would impact nearly everyone which is why anyone happy about a win by Iran is probably not thinking ahead to what they would do if they could.

BelleHathor Oil futures are wild. Just nudged under $90 and falling. Down 9% since opening last night.