Trump throwing a lot of people under the bus because of stock markets?

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When you start a war you finish it in my opinion. There has been no other war that has been stopped because of a slide on the Dow Jones or an oil price spike. For Trump to now prematurely call an end to the war simply because of economics will simply mean IIrans drone terrorism has worked.

The people of Iran will be left with a job half done without the space needed for an uprising.

A new leader with good reason to ideological hate Israel and the US will realise the only method of future deterrence of Iran is through acquiring a nuclear weapon as their conventional weapons were obliterated. Iran will now do everything possible to acquire such a weapon.

This is a time for resolve Mr. President. There is still a chance to destroy this regime maybe with limited target ground troop assaults. The world actually will be safer if you continue.

I have previously referred to different articles that state Iran has enriched Uranium to 60%. One assumes that posters read the thread and I understand that joining without seeing the previous commentary means it wouldn't be clear.

However, what I was referring to wasn't the different article posted.

There are numerous articles discussing the fact that Iran have enriched Uranium past the 2-3% mark, indeed some/many suggest it has hit the 60% mark. Why is this important?

"(1) Nuclear Explosions
It is often reported that 90% uranium enrichment is “needed” to have a nuclear weapon. This is not true. The Hiroshima bombs had only 80% enrichment. Iran has a good deal of 60% enriched uranium, and you can make a bomb from 60% enriched uranium — it would be bulkier than a bomb with 90% enrichment and therefore harder to deliver, but not so very much harder.
Also, the mechanism needed for making a uranium bomb is very much easier than what is needed for a plutonium bomb. It can be done with a lot less effort and taking very little time. It’s called a “gun-type” atomic bomb rather than an “implosion-type” atomic bomb.
The gun-type bomb just fires one chunk of uranium into another chunk (the target) so that the two chunks add up to more than a “critical mass”. It is so simple it cannot possibly fail – as a result they never had to test this type of bomb before using it. They dropped it on the city of Hiroshima with no testing. There is a need for a precision timed “neutron source” but that is very old technology that has been well known for ages.
The implosion-type bomb is much more sophisticated, requiring a perfectly spherical shaped mass of plutonium metal surrounded by concentric plastic explosives to drive the sphere inward toward the centre – an “ implosion”. That is so tricky it’s pretty well got to be tested before using. The USA tested it at Alamagordo before dropping it on the city of Nagasaki.
Nuclear non-proliferation authorities maintain that a powerful nuclear explosive device (gun-type) could be made with any uranium enriched to 20% or more. Such an explosive device would not have to be delivered by rocket or aeroplane, but could be delivered in the hull of a ship, or in a truck, or even in the trunk of a car, and detonated by remote control.
Independent experts now say the same is true of most HALEU (high-assay low-enriched uranium) enriched to more than 12% U-235. Although this reality is not officially acknowledged by regulators, it means that the fuel for some of the “fast” or “advanced” SMNRs being proposed — like the ARC [NB] or eVinci [Sask] or Natrium [Wyoming] reactors — is already weapons usable material, even though it is below the 20% enrichment level."

The US doesn't want Iran to have enriched Uranium that could be used in weapons. Simple as that and many understand that.

Have to look at the wider behaviours of Trump, going back to Covid, the bleach thing, yes bleach kills viruses but as any school child knows, kills people if consumed.

Yes Trump isn't mad as in he needs sectioning but....

...he reminds me very much of an Aunt in the early stages of vascular dementia, she too could be highly plausible, truly believed what she was saying and based lies on elements of truth, so much so i used question my own version of reality and think "i must have mis remembered that..."

i don't think Trump is rational at all.

Can you link the article?

Yes the 60% is much higher than needed for civilian power.

My point was that the JCPOA was managing containment - Trump tore it up and the road led here.

Many points have been discussed about enriched Uranium and what level it is at. The International Atomic Energy Agency made certain assertions.

This one that states:

"The International Atomic Energy Agency said in a confidential report dated February 27, 2026 that Iran stored uranium enriched up to 60% at an underground location at the Isfahan Nuclear Technology Center. The finding comes as the IAEA says it cannot verify whether Iran has suspended all uranium enrichment, with the agency estimating Iran’s stockpile at 440.9 kilograms enriched to 60 percent purity, a level close to weapons-grade. The disclosure sharpens a long-running standoff over Tehran’s nuclear ambitions at a moment when international inspectors have lost the access they need to track what Iran is doing with its most sensitive material."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/iran-caught-storing-highly-enriched-uranium-in-hidden-underground-site/ar-AA1Xhety

https://thebulletin.org/2026/03/analysis-iran-likely-transferred-highly-enriched-uranium-to-isfahan-before-the-june-strikes/

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1mg7kx2d45o

https://apnews.com/article/iran-nuclear-uranium-enrichment-germany-israel-c9b3669a7721bd8929d465117c81b70f

Well those links are more helpful than just copied texts

Some reasons for why they might want to continue to enrich uranium despite agreeing not to:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jan/30/rationale-behind-iran-uranium-enrichment-nuclear-ambitions

But the JCPOA did contain Iran’s enrichment program - up until Trump tore it up.

Thanks @Ihatetomatoesit’ll likely come up again, keep for other threads.

And more importantly, it also put obligations on the EU and America to lift certain sanctions on Iran which they failed to do.

Iran did not start enriching to 60% for at least a year after Trump tore it up and imposed maximum sanctions which harmed ordinary Iranians.

Exactly this. The order things happened in is very relevant to how we find ourselves where we are. Not that I think it's going to matter to where we go from here. Trump bombed twice during negotiations, Iran are not in the mood to come back to the table whatever Trump says.

The global economy is collapsing. The damage to infrastructure means normal supplies of essential commodities will not be restored for years and the war continues to escalate. Israel will not stop regardless of what Trump does. I think it's likely they will use nuclear weapons.

What makes you think it's likely that Israel will use nuclear weapons?

They never have before, even after 7/10/23 when they were accused of having genocidal intentions towards the people of Gaza.

I'm very sure they won't and that they will in fact stop fighting Iran when Trump does.

Not necessarily the case for fighting Hezbollah in Lebanon though. According to the newspaper The Israel Hayom daily, Netanyahu said any agreement reached between the United States and Iran would not apply to the Lebanese front.

Could you provide a link to the evidence on why you think it's likely that Israel will use nuclear weapons?

Sorry I'm unable to download a link to my thoughts, you'll just have to take my word for it that I think Israel will use nuclear weapons.

@Ihatetomatoes thanks for the links but I always feel posters who ask for links may be being belligerent because surely they can google themselves ? Also there has been a well known stand off between Iran abd the inspectors and also truth.

Truth and lies again have been a massive problem .

I can't see how they will get rid of that uranium now .

Yep I’m not sure people take them in it’s more to get people googling for whatever reason.

I agree with you. The Israeli government has violated every facet of international law in the last few years. Nuclear use is also part of their military doctrine as revealed by investigative reporter Seymour Hersh in his book The Samson option:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option

And we're in good company, Colonel Douglas Macgregor, Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson, Professor John Mearsheimer, Lieutenant Daniel Davis, Larry Johnson and many others have also expressed similar.

If posters go to the trouble of copying the article, or parts of it, then why not supply the link as well?

At least we can see the source of the copy and paste.

A thanks is probably too much but do those who want a link take it on board and think yeh they’ve made a point.

Really 🙄

When you post an extract without a link, is it really that bad to ask for the source?

And the thank you comment is very Trump like