How will carrying out "powerful strikes " on Gaza help to get the bodies back?

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BN has resumed the attack on Gaza, surely finding bodies is easier when you are not being bombed, shelled, shot at and starved.

This is the statement I responded to:

Yup, lots of they couldn't even wait 2 weeks to resume the killing. Netanyahu's actions have associated those supporting his actions inside and outside of Israel with a barbarity which will not be forgotten nor forgiven for generations.

Doesn't sound like Belle was only criticising Netanyahu or the extremists in his party but rather anyone who supports Israel's actions in this war inside and outside of Israel

German civilians and many commentators during the war could equally be said to have supported Nazi policy but we move on for the sake of progress and our own mental health.

This ceasefire was never going to hold. It was set up to fail from the get go. In order for a ceasefire and eventual peace you need governance and security. There is neither in Gaza. There is no leadership to maintain any form of law and order. Hamas have got to go. Israel have got to stop killing civilians. And there needs to be some form of peace keeper in Gaza. Without it nothing will change.
This peace plan was rushed and lacked sufficient detail and supportive structure to make it work.
But Israel and the IDF cannot be that security force.

Yes, of course Hamas are my friends 🤡

I believe in free will. Israel had a choice in how to react to a delay in receiving the bodies. They chose to kill children, again. My teenagers could tell you that 'Look what you made me do' does not wash with me. We all make our choices and time and time again as we have seen Israels choice is extreme violence and the mass killing of innocent children.

Firstly, I know Hamas have no positives, I don’t know where you got the impression that I thought they did?

Israel can have all the positives it likes, it’s brilliant but IMO Israel is just as bad as Hamas, they are a wolf in sheep’s clothing.

Netenyahu is just as evil as Hamas, they both need to be gone, they both have so much hate and they poison everybody they can with it

Who is going to volunteer to keep the peace in Gaza after the scenes of mass execution of so called collaborators?

All Hamas had to do was return ALL the hostages and put down their weapons. Clearly no ceasefire would have held when they had no intention of doing that.

There is one other thing I would add. I am not sure that there is political will in Israel for a ceasefire- it’s being upheld by pressure from the US.

www.timesofisrael.com/trump-remains-committed-to-gaza-ceasefire-but-restraint-becomes-harder-for-netanyahu/

God knows - and that is why it was never going to happen.
And it’s more complicated than that. It’s all very well saying lay down your weapons to Hamas - but you’re not dealing with reasonable people there. Plus you have the added complication of other armed groups in Gaza.
This is why it was so much more complicated to sort out than many people want to believe. Without the support in place at best Gaza with remain a lawless hellhole.

Do your teenagers understand that actions have consequences? Because mine do. They understand if you do something knowing the consequences, then those consequences are on you. In fact, my 7 year old knows it.

Hamas know Israel is going to react with extreme violence. We all know it. You know it. I know it. Hamas still did it.

Very true.

When I heard about 7/10 I said OMG.

It was horrible to hear about but I also felt dread about what was going to happen next.

And Israel are the ones who chose to kill almost 50 children in 24hrs. You can rabbit on about Hamas all you like but this blood is on Israels hands, just as the blood of those killed on Oct 7 is on Hamas.

We could say that Israel knew that keeping people under occupation would lead to violence does that make Oct 7 Israels fault? Actions have consequences right?

Another blood libel targeting the leader of the only Jewish State.

Was George Bush ever said to be just as evil as Al Qaeda or ISIS? Barack Obama? Théoneste Bagosora? Mohamed Hamdan Dagalo?

How do you think any non Jewish country’s PM would have handled Oct 7th? How would a Western country have dealt with a similar attack on a similar scale - 9/11 anyone?

What about a similar attack in a similar scale on Egypt or Jordan? Although they would have probably asked for Israel’s help.

Israel is a terrorist State, a wolf in sheep’s clothing?

You have really drunk the toxic cool aid my dear.

One thing that stands out about this conflict as opposed to any others is the level of hate toward Israel and the type of language used to describe it.

Pretty obvious why.

Your deflection has been noted. The segment also highlighted how many top commanders where this extreme radicalisation takes place, are often top commanders in the army.

It doesn't directly follow that withdrawing from a territory while keeping control of a border will automatically result in rape, hostage taking, and murder though does it?

Whereas it clearly follows that breaking the terms of a ceasefire will result in the ceasefire coming to an end.

I'd be interested to hear what exact action of Israel's resulted in the atrocities of 7 October? And what you would have had Israel do instead, that would have prevented 7 October?

In return, I'll tell you that hiding then finding a body was directly the opposite of the terms of the ceasefire so ceasefire was briefly ended. Clear actions and consequences. What Hamas could have done is just return the body any time in the last few weeks. No cost to them, no Palestinian lives lost.

Now you do October 7, like you suggested. I'll listen.

*Many top commanders are graduates from this radical institute.

They indoctrinate them with extreme anti-Palestinian and anti- Arab rhetoric. It's quite disturbing how these same people then march off to Gaza for a killing spree.

Ok. So.

Israel. Some positives. Some negatives.

Hamas. Only negatives.

But Israel is the worst.

Got it.

Being the leader of the only Jewish state still doesn’t give him the licence to kill thousands possibly hundreds of thousands of people. Him being Jewish has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not he is guilty of war crimes.
Bush and Blair made many mistakes but at least initially the war on terror was seen as proportionate at the time. From the outset Israel’s intention was deemed to be heavy handed. And correct me if I’m wrong but aid was not restricted by the US or UK forces throughout the war on terror. We did not cause a human induced famine on Afghanistan.
That said we made catastrophic mistakes in both Iraq and Afghanistan. Lessons the world clearly has not learned from.

@JustSomeRandomOnTheInternet Lol Blood Libel, have a day off.

Was George Bush ever said to be just as evil as Al Qaeda or ISIS? Barack Obama? Théoneste Bagosora? Mohamed Hamdan Dagalo?

Yep - mostly all men in power are greedy war monger, so yes they are.

You can defend Netenyahu all you want, it’s my opinion. Him and Hamas, the same, wasn’t Ted Bundy charming?

Have a great evening

Excellent, glad we got there

I suggested that Oct 7 was the fault of Hamas. You are the one who thinks that people aren't responsible for their own actions, oh wait it's not people is it, it's just Israel. Poor Israel, have no choice but to blow children up repeatedly, Hamas made them do it 😭

I hope the faces of those innocent children haunt the people who killed them for the rest of their days.

And posting today has just reminded me why I stopped doing it so I'm out, enjoy arse licking Israel 👍

Israel bombing again tonight

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/oct/29/israeli-strikes-in-gaza-overnight-as-ceasefire-looks-increasingly-fragile

Someone will be along soon enough to defend Israel's mindless killing.

So it's looking like Netanyahu ordered the bombings last night even though the "IDF does not know whether the operation was approved by Hamas leadership or was a decision of the terrorist operatives."

The IDF had entered the tunnel, there was a battle between this cell who all were killed with 1 IDF soildier killed.

In response Netanyahu ordered the killing of over 100 Palestinians including 40+ kids, knowing that his stenographers would simply transcribe and amplify his official narrative.

The disparity between what's reported in Hebrew media vs Western Media continues.
https://news.walla.co.il/item/3790366

You think its psycho for people to be concerned about their loved ones remains? Have you ever been in a position where a close family member has been murdered and you don't know when or where or how they died or whether you will ever get to hold a funeral? Accusing people in that situation of being psychopaths for not thinking about it in a strictly utilitarian manner is hearless.

What I think pp meant was it’s not worth killing more children over this, deciding that is worth doing that is what’s crazy!! And I doubt that the hostage families are going to feel any better knowing that more innocent kids have died. There are families on both sides of this conflict who would like a dignified burial for their loved ones.

They could have said all that without calling people psycho.