Why would would you still have pro Palestinian marches apart from now instilling more fear into the Jewish community

[mids2019]

Now we have what looks like a peace to be celebrated why are people still going to march for Palestine? The genocide has stopped in their opinion so shouldn't they be at least joyful or if that is not the case what do they really want? Do they want to keep marching until the Israeli state is no more?

Makes it pretty obvious they're anti Israel marches, not pro Palestine. Or did I miss the protests against hamas executing people without trial?

They should continue until Israel has released all the hostages/prisoners, completely withdrawn all the settlements in West Bank, fully withdrawn from Gaza, stopped controlling the Gaza borders and stopped controlling access to Gaza by sea and finally recognised the Palestinian state and treating Palestinians as equals. Only then will Palestine be free.

Never gonna happen.

Good point. Why would Israel be “disliked all over the world”, while “the Palestinians sufferings often go unnoticed by the wider world”.
How can both of these claims be true at the same time?

Oxford student who chanted 'put the Zios in the ground' at London rally is arrested and suspended
Samuel Williams, a Politics, Philosophy and Economics student at Balliol College, was filmed among a crowd of people during a Palestine Coalition protest in Westminster.
”A 20-year-old man was arrested at an address in Oxfordshire on Wednesday, October 15, on suspicion of inciting racial hatred. He remains in police custody.”
Williams, who is reportedly from Tunbridge Wells in Kent, has also been suspended by the university.

What’s that saying? ‘You have freedom of speech, but not freedom from the consequences’?

He is fucked now. Criminal conviction for racial hatred is going to prevent him entering Europe or the USA. Also in any job applications, ‘Do you have any criminal convictions?’

Why on earth would Israel release ALL the Palestinian prisoners and stop controlling their border with Gaza?
How do you think that would work out for them?

The protesting was not an anti Israel march for most people, or against hamas, they were for the majority the only thing they could do to help the innocent people stuck in palestine with no means of escape.
Perhaps if the public hadn't of protested against Russia, ran to save Ukraine, sheltered the people, the reaction may have been different.
SM created the flow.

It's just soundbite after soundbite isn't it.

Well done to Oxford for suspending him.

Inciting racial hatred was not the extra curricular he should have chosen.

This case is such a good example of why these marches are a massive problem. Week after week he, and others have heard these chants
From the River to the Sea
Judaism yes, Zionism no
Resistance is Justified
They hear more explicitly racist speeches & see banners. The police dont arrest people that have crossed a line, week after week. The focus is only on Israel & 'zionists'. No blame on Hamas. So its a very small leap to chant about putting Jewish people in the ground & know that the people around you won't object. Its didn't just leap into his head in the heat of the moment. He had 'workshopped it' with others and made a conscious decision to share it at the rally, and everyone joined in. I hope the university is also looking into the others in that 'workshop'.

Yes he should be arrested and suspended from Oxford.

But technically what has he done that is any different from those behind him repeating the chant. I would like to see those people investigated and suspended from Oxford as well.

Interestingly if you watch the video footage you can see a young woman who knows it's wrong from the beginning and refuses to join in the chant.

Sam Williams must be very bemused as to why his workshopped chant of putting ‘zios’ in the ground has got him arrested while “Death, Death to the IDF” has become a new chant of choice on the marches.

Indeed. It is quite confusing (I meant to put that on my list). Maybe the police can explain?

Imagine if Israel didn't control its border with Palestine so anyone could enter Israel. What do you think might happen? 🤔

All countries control their border and who enters, passports, checks, visa, emigration or travel permits ring a bell?

It would be October 7th everyday.... people are quite naive or delutional

It’s quite bonkers, isn’t it? As if October 7th never happened…
Or maybe they just don’t care, because “it didn’t start on October 7th”.
I mean, what other country would be expected to just drop their defences?

UK? Of course we don't have neighbours that are trying to kill us...we hope. But there was a time we were a bit more careful and the tank traps and 'pillboxes' dotted around the countryside are still evidence of that.

Oh look - yet another post about everything Israel should do to "free Palestine" with absolutely no mention of Hamas disarming, rescinding their stated purpose of obliterating their neighbours or even stopping killing their own - except that's vanishingly unlikely

Edited to add that Sam hasn't been convicted yet, @HellsBalls, though I very much hope he will be - and what a pity that other Unis don't take much action against their own screamers and spitters
He'll doubtless be squealing like a stuck pig about how unfair it all is, but good luck with that among those possessed of more balance

Women were raped on October 7th and two women report being sexually assaulted in captivity. They were being held by a terrorist organisation. Some men reported being deprived of food and beaten, one man lost between 30-40% of his body weight. Others report being treated well and passing their days playing cards with their captors.

Palestinian prisoners, held by the Israeli government and therefore protected by international laws against torture, reported systematic rape, electrocution, beatings, being attacked by dogs, being hung up, being starved to the point many could not walk. One interview I saw was a man with a really messed up arm because every time it healed they broke it again, permanently disabling him. The blinded man I saw interviewed had things put in his eyes by Israeli prison guards and was electrocuted. The multiple rapes included a Doctor who was sodomised to death. Really horrific.

Israel actually treat prisoners even worse than the terrorists - what does that make them.

77 Palestinians have died in Israeli prisons since October 7th, most were tortured to death, 45 prisoners bodies recently returned showed signs of extreme torture to the point many were unrecognisable. Close to 400 children remain in Israeli prisons. Of the adults held in Israeli prisons, only 10-25% are militants and thousands of people are being held without charge.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/sep/04/israeli-military-database-indicates-only-a-quarter-of-gaza-detainees-are-fighters

I hear in the news that a convicted paedophile was killed in a UK prison, apparently they're rough places. Mosab Yusef says hamas are a bit rough with other Palestinians in prison, and some evidence of hamasbara when reporting the condition of released prisoners can be found.
I don't doubt some reports of abuse, I see reports from prisons in various countries including those in the middle east. I do doubt hamasniks who denied 7/10 happened or claimed it wasn't so bad or it was justified.

Still, it keeps the hate going and drowns out peacenik voices. Those that can't be judicially executed for 'collaboration.'

Yes, I agree with you. So many people started these vile, racist chants - but others joined in. It's like they lost all sense of responsibility, or maybe just all sense.

Good points. "Free Palestine" sounds easy, doesn't it? Chant it, put it on a sticker, demand it with your placard, then go home. I think people could do with opening a history book or two.
I'm glad that young man has been arrested for his vile racist chants. Perhaps he'd prefer to live in a regime more suitable to his anti-Semitic outlook.

If others are chanting it, I’m covered.

I expect it gives some of them a little frisson of excitement to be a bit rebellious, they probably didn’t get much of that on their path to Oxford Uni. But no one actually said ‘hang on, we’re calling for people to die here, are we the baddies?’.

Same for those people who can afford expensive tickets to Glastonbury joining in with Death to the IDF.

Everyone around them is doing it, they think it’s fine.

I did see there was a fracas at a feminist conference where some women were chanting Free Palestine and flag waving during a disco, who are presumably now surprised to find that not everyone thinks that is the behaviour of heroes, or even normal people.

I agree, @noblegiraffe and I think what has happened is that these demonstrations have made certain things acceptable and mainstream, so racists have become somewhat emboldened to say things about Jews.