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Why would would you still have pro Palestinian marches apart from now instilling more fear into the Jewish community

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mids2019 · 14/10/2025 04:21

Now we have what looks like a peace to be celebrated why are people still going to march for Palestine? The genocide has stopped in their opinion so shouldn't they be at least joyful or if that is not the case what do they really want? Do they want to keep marching until the Israeli state is no more?

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FreedomandPeace · 14/10/2025 04:47

It’s very early days

Negotiations are still ongoing and at the moment the outcome of them will determine whether there will be real peace.

So for now it’s important to ensure countries support that
The bbc article on the interview with the King of Jordan shows there’s a lot still to agree on.

The release of the hostages does not signify peace for the Palestinians quite yet

xanthomelana · 14/10/2025 04:58

Two reasons. Firstly they haven’t been told what to protest about now that the war is over and secondly because Trump played such a big part in the peace talks and it pains them greatly.

Twiglets1 · 14/10/2025 08:09

It's something to do on a Saturday and some genuinely think them marching is going to influence Netanyahu or Hamas.

Mildorado · 14/10/2025 08:10

xanthomelana · 14/10/2025 04:58

Two reasons. Firstly they haven’t been told what to protest about now that the war is over and secondly because Trump played such a big part in the peace talks and it pains them greatly.

Good points

Mildorado · 14/10/2025 08:12

It'll carry on, every Saturday. The one in my city is advertised with flyers saying "Palestine is not free". No kidding, it's descending into mob violence and reprisals.

mids2019 · 14/10/2025 08:17

I just worry this will become some sort of permanent feature of British cultural landscape unless people call it out. There is no excuse about calling for an end to a war now a peace has been agreed. The nature of the marches will become worse as the focus will be more about 'anti zionism' i.e. a call for the eradication of Israel.

I feel there is certainly a sense of defeat by all those that supported the Palestinian cause and that bitterness could lay the foundations of a nasty virulent form of anti semtism which some will allow because of 'but Gaza'.

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Mildorado · 14/10/2025 08:21

I think you're right, @mids2019 . Perhaps moderate people who are peace activists will stop going, but I do wonder if they reflected on the nature and intent of some of the organisers, and many of the chants and placards. Unfortunately, it has enabled the more entrenched and extreme views to prevail. I've been very concerned about them, and it looks like they're still continuing in my city centre. I can't really see it stopping.
As you say, it's now part of the cultural landscape.

Twiglets1 · 14/10/2025 08:23

mids2019 · 14/10/2025 08:17

I just worry this will become some sort of permanent feature of British cultural landscape unless people call it out. There is no excuse about calling for an end to a war now a peace has been agreed. The nature of the marches will become worse as the focus will be more about 'anti zionism' i.e. a call for the eradication of Israel.

I feel there is certainly a sense of defeat by all those that supported the Palestinian cause and that bitterness could lay the foundations of a nasty virulent form of anti semtism which some will allow because of 'but Gaza'.

I agree there is a palpable sense of bitterness from many that support the Palestinian cause which was unexpected by me.

Did they want the war to go on longer? Possibly some are upset that they can't call it a famine anymore since aid can flood in now we have a ceasefire and also we can all see with our own eyes that the thousands of Gazans we see on our screens thankfully look a healthy weight.

And can they keep insisting it's a genocide now we have evidence that Netanyahu didn't choose to prolong the war indefinitely or to push Gazans into concentration-like camps or to expel them from Gaza.

Ihatetomatoes · 14/10/2025 08:24

Mildorado · 14/10/2025 08:12

It'll carry on, every Saturday. The one in my city is advertised with flyers saying "Palestine is not free". No kidding, it's descending into mob violence and reprisals.

Maybe they will amend the chants to 'Hamas go' or perhaps they keep.on with the Jewish hate with 'Globalise the intifada' and other such jolly ditties. They are either anti semitic or just plain dumb idiots or perhaps they have nothing else to do but worship a cult.

Ihatetomatoes · 14/10/2025 08:26

Twiglets1 · 14/10/2025 08:23

I agree there is a palpable sense of bitterness from many that support the Palestinian cause which was unexpected by me.

Did they want the war to go on longer? Possibly some are upset that they can't call it a famine anymore since aid can flood in now we have a ceasefire and also we can all see with our own eyes that the thousands of Gazans we see on our screens thankfully look a healthy weight.

And can they keep insisting it's a genocide now we have evidence that Netanyahu didn't choose to prolong the war indefinitely or to push Gazans into concentration-like camps or to expel them from Gaza.

The famine ended pretty quickly. When you see pictures of the famine in many countries it's awful. There were cries of mass starvation for over a year but apart from sad images of children with medical conditions it was thankfully untrue.

Mildorado · 14/10/2025 08:29

Ihatetomatoes · 14/10/2025 08:24

Maybe they will amend the chants to 'Hamas go' or perhaps they keep.on with the Jewish hate with 'Globalise the intifada' and other such jolly ditties. They are either anti semitic or just plain dumb idiots or perhaps they have nothing else to do but worship a cult.

I do find it very troubling, and I'm a Lefty who's been on lots of demos! These have become problematic. As you say, the chanting and some of the placards are less about peace than you'd think. I wish that they'd been clamped down more in the early days.
Some people are behaving with impunity now.
On the very day of an attack on a synagogue, in the same city, there was a pro-Pal protest, with some hiding their faces in keffiyehs. Not acceptable.

Mildorado · 14/10/2025 08:31

Ihatetomatoes · 14/10/2025 08:26

The famine ended pretty quickly. When you see pictures of the famine in many countries it's awful. There were cries of mass starvation for over a year but apart from sad images of children with medical conditions it was thankfully untrue.

I don't doubt that there have been countless victims in this terrible war, the death and destruction has been horrific and anyone with any humanity is repulsed.
However, I feel that these have not really been "anti war" protests, as such.

Mildorado · 14/10/2025 08:31

Germany is cracking down on supporters of Hamas.

Mildorado · 14/10/2025 08:33

Sorry if you can't read the above article, but Germany has removed citizenship from this man who has explicitly supported Hamas. He posted an Instagram picture, and called them "heroes".

Ihatetomatoes · 14/10/2025 08:47

Good for them. They probably realise that Europe's biggest threat is from its own citizens who have been radicalised and people who now live in Europe who promote globalise the intifada and terrorism here. The counter terrorist watchlist is huge. The growth in radical Islamists in Europe and the world is not something any sane person should support.

Twiglets1 · 14/10/2025 08:48

Ihatetomatoes · 14/10/2025 08:26

The famine ended pretty quickly. When you see pictures of the famine in many countries it's awful. There were cries of mass starvation for over a year but apart from sad images of children with medical conditions it was thankfully untrue.

I know - I remember seeing the heart-breaking images coming out of Ethiopia.

The media didn't use photos of children with pre existing medical conditions then.

Mildorado · 14/10/2025 08:52

Ihatetomatoes · 14/10/2025 08:47

Good for them. They probably realise that Europe's biggest threat is from its own citizens who have been radicalised and people who now live in Europe who promote globalise the intifada and terrorism here. The counter terrorist watchlist is huge. The growth in radical Islamists in Europe and the world is not something any sane person should support.

Yes, I agree. It troubles me that there are so many radicalised people, and how many appear to be quite open.
Germany is right to clamp down on fascism, and I hope the rest of Europe follows suit.

HellsBalls · 14/10/2025 08:54

I would imagine now that the government will move to ban the marches.

KoalaKoKo · 14/10/2025 08:59
  • There is still a land and sea blockade in Gaza.
  • There are also no guarantees that Israel won’t return to bombing Gaza again. There are no ramifications if Netanyahu breaks the ceasefire as he has done before.
  • The Israeli army are still oppressing people in the West Bank, raiding houses, threatening people etc…
  • They are still supporting settlers there who are attacking Palestinians, destroying olive groves and houses.
  • They are still demolishing Palestinian houses and building new settlements on recently stolen land.
  • Palestinians are still dying, still being oppressed and still do not have human rights.

This has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with human rights. People in Ireland didn’t hate Britain because they were protestant - they hated them because they stole their land, murdered families, deported people by force. People didn’t hate Osama Bin Laden or Saddam Hussein because they were muslim - it was the murder, oppression and human rights violation bit that made people hate them. People didn’t protest the Iraq war because of religion, they came out enmasse because people were dying and our governments were causing that. During the Iraq war I tried to get a taxi in Tunis - we had five taxis who drove out of the rank and refused to take us because they thought we were British so we had to walk, we had a shop assistant tell us to leave and a lot of hostile encounters. In Paris we had a waiter demand to know if we were British or American and then relax once I said Irish (my partner stayed quiet). They didn’t do this because they thought we were protestant or catholic, they did this because the US and UK were bombing Iraq. The marches aren’t against jewish people, they are for human rights and for Palestinians having the right to self determination.

Most of us have lived long enough to have seen several bombing campaigns in Gaza where Israel say they are leaving but continue to control borders, drop the occasional bomb, shoot a few random kids or farmers and then after a few months or a few years bomb the crap out of Gaza again. It is an eternal loop. Every few years you turn on the news in the safety of your own house and see another bombing - a few thousand Gazans dead, kids shot on a beach. You have Israeli leaders who say things about having to “mow the lawn” occasionally. Pre October 7th there was not a genocide but there was oppression, displacement, murder and always the lingering threat of more.

If you don’t want protests and you don’t want uprisings or resistance give people the rights that you yourself enjoy, stop expanding settlements, and make sure that they have nothing to rise up against.

Comedycook · 14/10/2025 08:59

Ihatetomatoes · 14/10/2025 08:26

The famine ended pretty quickly. When you see pictures of the famine in many countries it's awful. There were cries of mass starvation for over a year but apart from sad images of children with medical conditions it was thankfully untrue.

There never was a famine...it's utter nonsense...I have no doubt some were going hungry and there were shortages and those who were very vulnerable with other illnesses were affected..but actual famine...please! Where are the photos/videos of actual starving adults?

quantumbutterfly · 14/10/2025 09:02

Mildorado · 14/10/2025 08:52

Yes, I agree. It troubles me that there are so many radicalised people, and how many appear to be quite open.
Germany is right to clamp down on fascism, and I hope the rest of Europe follows suit.

It's certainly given a very good argument for governments to restrict freedom of association, freedom of expression and face covering in public spaces, even within the framework of human rights legislation. Useful idiots indeed, and they might wonder who has been playing them to achieve such a spectacular own goal.

What happens next should be as eye opening as watching the UK government finding ways to invalidate a referendum it organised but didn't like the result of.

childofthe607080s · 14/10/2025 09:02

Are Israeli troops still in Palestine?
are Israelis still occupying Palestine homes?

when Isreal gets out of Palestine completely and stops killing Palestinians then I will shut up

StewkeyBlue · 14/10/2025 09:03

Hamas are now killing Palestinians…

Plantine · 14/10/2025 09:05

mids2019 · 14/10/2025 04:21

Now we have what looks like a peace to be celebrated why are people still going to march for Palestine? The genocide has stopped in their opinion so shouldn't they be at least joyful or if that is not the case what do they really want? Do they want to keep marching until the Israeli state is no more?

Are you actually serious? We should be "joyful"? Joyful about what, exactly?

Tone-deaf came to mind when I read this thread, honestly.