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Why would would you still have pro Palestinian marches apart from now instilling more fear into the Jewish community

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mids2019 · 14/10/2025 04:21

Now we have what looks like a peace to be celebrated why are people still going to march for Palestine? The genocide has stopped in their opinion so shouldn't they be at least joyful or if that is not the case what do they really want? Do they want to keep marching until the Israeli state is no more?

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Wedonttalkaboutboris · 18/10/2025 09:40

SharonEllis · 18/10/2025 09:20

I don't know what thread or conversation you are talking about. I suspect it is to do with modern Palestinian political identity that is very recent. It doesn't negate genetic or cultural ties going back further. Two things can be true. As your article referred to no specific research and had no links or references its impossible to follow up.

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I mean, the political identity of Palestinians- as in the organised national movement- is fairly modern, but that’s true for most national identities. It doesn’t mean the people or their connection to the land are new. Families in Gaza and the West Bank have lived there for centuries. What’s “modern” is just the political framing, not the existence of Palestinians themselves.

SisterTeatime · 18/10/2025 11:02

I wonder whether some of the ignorance or misunderstanding about the region is due - ironically - to the decline of Christianity in the UK. You can’t read the Bible without understanding some of the background, and obviously Christianity arose out of Judaism, so to speak, and Islam is an Abrahamic religion as well. ‘People of the book’. Christian antisemitism has a long history which perhaps - again ironically - has been a bit ‘lost’ since WWII and the Holocaust, with many in the UK knowing little about how embedded in our culture it was until recently.

I do see some broad parallels with the history of Ireland and the disenfranchisement of Catholics in the British Isles but I think it’s odd that Irish people are so keen to support a religion (Islam) that’s a proselytising one while heaping calumny on Judaism, where the ethnic and familial roots are more important and which doesn’t even want converts!

I intend no offence to people of any race, nationality or religion by the way, I just find these questions, and the roles of religion in society, very interesting. I agree with @Mildorado that I’ve often reflected how fortunate we are to be an island nation!

Mildorado · 18/10/2025 11:04

Yes, good points, @SisterTeatime . Good points about the religion.
I would agree, but also how much general knowledge is lacking about the whole issue anyway. It's not good to inform yourself from a placard or a banner!

Stripes56 · 18/10/2025 11:18

SisterTeatime · 18/10/2025 11:02

I wonder whether some of the ignorance or misunderstanding about the region is due - ironically - to the decline of Christianity in the UK. You can’t read the Bible without understanding some of the background, and obviously Christianity arose out of Judaism, so to speak, and Islam is an Abrahamic religion as well. ‘People of the book’. Christian antisemitism has a long history which perhaps - again ironically - has been a bit ‘lost’ since WWII and the Holocaust, with many in the UK knowing little about how embedded in our culture it was until recently.

I do see some broad parallels with the history of Ireland and the disenfranchisement of Catholics in the British Isles but I think it’s odd that Irish people are so keen to support a religion (Islam) that’s a proselytising one while heaping calumny on Judaism, where the ethnic and familial roots are more important and which doesn’t even want converts!

I intend no offence to people of any race, nationality or religion by the way, I just find these questions, and the roles of religion in society, very interesting. I agree with @Mildorado that I’ve often reflected how fortunate we are to be an island nation!

Don’t the Irish see it through a colonialism lens? Not a religious one when they consider situation in the ME?

SisterTeatime · 18/10/2025 11:30

Yes I think so, but as religious oppression and sectarianism are significant factors in Irish (and British Catholic) history I find it interesting that to some extent, those are rather swept aside.

Stripes56 · 18/10/2025 12:13

SisterTeatime · 18/10/2025 11:30

Yes I think so, but as religious oppression and sectarianism are significant factors in Irish (and British Catholic) history I find it interesting that to some extent, those are rather swept aside.

You are right that religious oppression does seem to key in Irish history.

But those who have oppressed others can become oppressed themselves. The fact that Islam aims to convert others doesn’t of course mean of course that those of that faith, or Christianity, can’t be oppressed themselves.

SisterTeatime · 18/10/2025 13:59

No, of course not.

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