Why would would you still have pro Palestinian marches apart from now instilling more fear into the Jewish community

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Now we have what looks like a peace to be celebrated why are people still going to march for Palestine? The genocide has stopped in their opinion so shouldn't they be at least joyful or if that is not the case what do they really want? Do they want to keep marching until the Israeli state is no more?

You are mistaken, it isn't religious, it is traditionally worn by Palestinians. Did you see the nativity scene displayed in the Vatican during the genocide? Baby Jesus was wrapped in a keffiyah.

I agree.

Because there is only a fragile ceasefire.

As its most likely that Hamas will he the ones to break it, are the marchers going to be protesting against Hamas this weekend?

That’s interesting!
Looking on the internet - the Keffiyeh doesn’t appear to be a religious symbol, and it’s links to the region are thousands of years old.

Palestinians as a national identity have only existed for 60 years.

The keffiyah originated in Iraq long before ‘Palestinians’ existed.

Much like Israel,

Israel also has form in that regard. The time for point scoring is over.
Its difficult to see what the government can do to prevent marches, people have the right to peaceful protest in the UK.

The word Palestine -for the region - derived thousands of years ago. Palestinians also have genetic links to the region that stem thousands of years and is shared by some Israelis.

I love the last paragraph of this link:
https://www.induslens.com/articles/dna-reveals-shared-roots-of-israelis-palestinians

“These findings provide a nuanced understanding of the genetic history in the Levant, illustrating a complex tapestry of ancestry that transcends modern political and religious boundaries. They highlight the shared genetic heritage among different groups in the region, offering a perspective that contributes to discussions about historical identity, heritage, and coexistence in the Levant.”

Yes we all know the word is ancient, which proves nothing about modern Palestinian identity. The 'article' (no reference to who conducted the research, where, methodology etc no citations or links) actually rather proves the point about modern Palestinian identity being a recent invention even if shared genetic heritage goes back a long way, which is no surprise.

That was a summary of the genetic research. I quoted it as I love the sentiment - there are people living in the region - be they Palestinian Christians or Muslims, or Israeli Jews, who have overlapping and longstanding genetic roots to the region that transcend modern borders.

The history and culture of the region is rich - for example food of Palestinian origin that is now also eaten in Israel.

And they share religious figures too?

Thanks for sharing this- really interesting. Love the sentiment too.

Yes, they are all Abrahamic religions with the same root. Christans, then later Islam followed on from Judaism The shared heritage and genetic research you reference makes you wonder why most of the muslim world (which largely came about through conquest) and the pro-Pal movement is so determined to delegitimise the Jewish ties to the land when they are so obvious and unarguable.

Yes, they must be the same people, in origin. I think the Muslims conquered the Levant in about 630AD.? Correct me if I'm wrong. It then spread across the region with the conquering armies of the Islamic Empire. So originally, yes, the same ethnically, I'm guessing.
Very interesting.

Yes, I don't even know what purpose the denial serves?
Someone on another thread said there were no Jews in the region until 1948. Extraordinary, so ignorant.

Yet just on this thread people were trying to minimise the historical and cultural links of Palestinians to the region.

We need to stop thinking like this - it serves no purpose.

I think we know what purpose it serves! The propganda has been very very effective. Its why the use of 'zionist' is so important because its a constant dogwhistle referring to Jews coming back, while ignoring the ones that remained.

You need to take the religion out of it- the genetic links are older than the current religions

Exactly- national identity shifts with history, but the people and their connection to the land have been continuous. That genetic study captures it perfectly- modern labels can’t erase thousands of years of shared ancestry.

Yes, I see. Surely it's obvious that Jews always had a homeland there, though? There was a Jewish uprising against the Romans.
They surely must know about Jesus?!

Yes, I have already agreed with that. My point is that different religions have impacted changes in communities over the years. So it's really a false identification if they're the same ethnicity.
I think the problem is that too many people won't take religion out of it.

I don't know what thread or conversation you are talking about. I suspect it is to do with modern Palestinian political identity that is very recent. It doesn't negate genetic or cultural ties going back further. Two things can be true. As your article referred to no specific research and had no links or references its impossible to follow up.

I was thinking about that - but it’s not all about religion is it? It’s about land and the ownership of it. For the Palestinians - that’s a more recent ownership? Hence their outrage. But people need to move on and Israel needs to recognise rights of Palestinians too- including in the WB.

True, it is very complicated. I started to read around it, and began to realise just how complex! I looked at all the maps with how the region has changed. I do think religion has been a driver for many.
I think we're lucky to live in an island nation, really.

Shame they cannot live in peace

This. Absolutely 🙏