Feel like once the hostages are handed over Israel will start bombing again

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It seems too good to be true, a final end to the war.

After all the plans that were announced with regards to annexation and the Israeli far-right government members, I can’t help but feel that once all of the hostages are released Israel will go ham on Gaza.

There will be nothing to stop them bombing everywhere.

No hostages to avoid bombing.

No families pleading with the Israeli ministers.

Israel has broken so many ceasefires and this was with the hostages lives at stake.

I don’t know, but I can’t celebrate with everyone as I don’t believe it will last and my heart says that’s it’s going to get worse.

When did the ceasefire start before Oct 7? Israel were dropping bombs in Gaza for days a few weeks prior to Oct 7. Was there a ceasefire deal between then and Oct 7 or are you just repeating nonsense you have heard online?

@justanotherpassword @AhWeNoss Do you track any other posters across MN to throw a post from years ago in their faces or did you just coincidentally single out this poster for no particular reason?

Any reputable source for that claim that Israel were dropping bombs for days a few weeks prior to October 7th?

Just google Israel bomb Gaza Sept 2023 and you will get a range of 'reputable sources'. Did you think there was a 'ceasefire' on Oct 7 too, you've posted so much on this conflict that I'm surprised you don't know the background.

I don't think they will fire first, but I think if Hamas do anything they will react way out of proportion, and probably hope that Hamas do something major enough to 'allow' them to do this.

Oh yes … after Palestinian militants at the border fence launched incendiary balloons into Israel & threw an explosive at soldiers.

The 3 days of bombings in retaliation should have been a warning that Israel wouldn’t tolerate such behaviour.

I cant get my head around the tone of these posts.

A few weeks ago it was 'Israel ceasefire now' 'Israel will never stop til all Palestinians are dead'...

Now Israel has ceased fire, its 'Israel will break the ceasefire very soon, and will carry on regardless any moment'.

Its almost as if you want them to continue the bombing in order to validate your beliefs about them.

I cannot fathom this level of mistrust.... its almost gleeful.

We can't see the future. Both races are made of humans. Surely there's hope that both sides can find a way to make this one stick? I believe theres Palestinian and Israeli voices out there that can make it happen.

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I mean it’s hardly tracking to remember memorable statements by posters…

The level of mistrust is there because Israel has never acted in a manner that shows it can be trusted. Its constant excuses for wrong bombings, its refusal to allow journalists into Gaza who can report truthfully, its claims about aid.

You may not want to agree but Israel has killed tens of thousands of innocent Palestinians just because it can. Hamas is a terror organisation, no one can expect them to have any morality and being honest, I don’t have any faith they won’t seek to break it either, but I also believe Israel will look for the smallest of act, something that isn’t from Hamas but a random Palestinian, and use that to justify more killing and murder.

Israel’s actions over the past two years have shown that it cannot be trusted. So yes, any mistrust is legitimate.

This is so unbelievably unfair. I saw the posts.

PC said her Rabbis son was thinking of moving to Israel and enlisting. I think she said it in the context of the rising current of antisemitism in the UK.

The poster responded that she hopes what that young man does out there will haunt him for the rest of his life.

A young man she doesn't know personally, other than that he's Jewish.

I dont think its worth going in to here all the ways that sentiment betrays the hatred and prejudice behind it. Just to imagine the same was said about anyone's young boy who expressed a wish to join the army and fight for his country.

This post will be deleted as its referencing another thread.

Hope that makes it clear for anyone reading.

First of all it is not relevant to ber post or the thread. It was a personal, snide remark.

Secondly Hamas is NOT equivalent to the IDF. The IDF is the legitimate army if a democratic state that is our ally. Whatever your opinion on tje conflict an official legitimate army is not equivalent to tje fighters of a proscribed terrorist organisatuin.

Well if the comment wasn’t deleted it didn’t break site rules.

The IDF aren’t a proscribed terrorist organisation, Hamas are.

Fair enough. A more accurate statement might be that he was considering joining an army that's under investigations for war crimes and genocide.

I'm not sure it sounds that much better.

BS.

This was on a thread about the rising atmosphere of antisemitism. The poster has frequently posted about how this has affected her and her children. She said the Rabbis son was thinking of moving to Israel to enlist. Last time I checked it was something honorable to fight for your country. The post made next was this-

"Weren’t you the poster who was SO proud of the fact her Rabbi's son had gone over to fight on behalf of the IDF? Hope the images of the dead children and women he killed haunt him for the rest of his life."

Thats a direct quote of what this poster said about a young man she doesn't know, who hasnt commited any crime, other than considering fighting for his country.

You have no idea if it’s his country or not.

Did you find @PurpleChrayn 's statements about the murders of her friends' children on October 7th or the antisemitic abuse she and her family have been repeatedly subjected to in the UK to be equally memorable?

There was just no need to join in with a snide, personal little dig which was unnecessary and had a disturbing undertone. If we want everyone to do better, maybe we can start with ourselves?

Im guessing if his Dad is a Rabbi he might have some connection to Israel ffs

Thank you for providing the context, I vaguely remember that exchange.
Once again, everything connected to Israel seems to be measured by completely different standards.
Comparing enlisting in the IDF to joining the Hamas (as pp did) is such an example.
I mean, Hamas literally call for the destruction of Israel in their founding charter, that is the kind of enemy IDF are facing, yet some people seem absolutely determined to ignore that.

That doesn’t mean he is Israeli and if he isn’t, then Israel is not his country for him to serve in.

You go on about him fighting for his country but you don’t know that.

This is exactly what will happen. The hostages were an excuse, but they’ll soon find another one.

Every army commits war crimes.

And does that sound like the 'ceasefire' we have repeatedly been told existed or does it sound like this 'ceasefire' was another figment of pro Israel imagination because I haven't seen a single pro Palestinian claim that there was a ceasefire in place.

BS. I have the post screenshot. That isn’t what she said.