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Feel like once the hostages are handed over Israel will start bombing again

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Wakeuplittlebunnies · 10/10/2025 06:50

It seems too good to be true, a final end to the war.

After all the plans that were announced with regards to annexation and the Israeli far-right government members, I can’t help but feel that once all of the hostages are released Israel will go ham on Gaza.

There will be nothing to stop them bombing everywhere.

No hostages to avoid bombing.

No families pleading with the Israeli ministers.

Israel has broken so many ceasefires and this was with the hostages lives at stake.

I don’t know, but I can’t celebrate with everyone as I don’t believe it will last and my heart says that’s it’s going to get worse.

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SharonEllis · 20/10/2025 08:46

TomeTome · 20/10/2025 07:49

I think human beings do not need Israel’s permission to interact. It’s almost like you think Gaza is just a bigger jail and Israel are still their jailers? When you free someone they are then free and may do what any of the rest of us can do surely?

Not if their intention is to conspire to kill you, no. And not if there is a ceasefire agreement that specifically requires them to disarm.

Just to be clear. Are you saying released prisoners should be allowed to join Hamas and conspire to attack Israel and Israelis?

noblegiraffe · 20/10/2025 08:46

TomeTome · 20/10/2025 08:29

Or possibly It depends on Hamas IDF giving up arms and fucking off, not regrouping and plotting further attacks on Israel.Palestine

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The ceasefire agreement explicitly requires Hamas to give up its arms and control of the strip. Do you think this is unreasonable?

SpaceRaccoon · 20/10/2025 08:54

TomeTome · 20/10/2025 06:46

But surely the Palestinians who have been released from captivity are free to group any way they like? If the Russians released Ukrainian prisoners they could rejoin their country in whatever capacity they wanted to.

No not really, if "anyway they like" involves organising further terror attacks.

Tbh you should probably read the actual ceasefire terms.

swimsong · 20/10/2025 09:03

camomilelawns · 20/10/2025 04:06

Only because Hamas hasn't kept their side of the bargain.

They (Hamas) are 'stalling for time' so they can use those terrorists that Israel has released to them to regroup.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3w9py9940go

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The article cites "a claim". It doesn't back up your assertion at all. You, like so many on here, are giving full credibility to news/propaganda filtered & packaged through Israel. We actually have no idea what Hamas is doing or isn't doing. There's not enough independent journalists in Gaza to tell us. I'd say it was naive but it's not, is it - it's just partisan.

camomilelawns · 20/10/2025 09:04

swimsong · 20/10/2025 09:03

The article cites "a claim". It doesn't back up your assertion at all. You, like so many on here, are giving full credibility to news/propaganda filtered & packaged through Israel. We actually have no idea what Hamas is doing or isn't doing. There's not enough independent journalists in Gaza to tell us. I'd say it was naive but it's not, is it - it's just partisan.

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So Hamas needs an apologist now?
Really?

SpaceRaccoon · 20/10/2025 09:22

I'd say they already have plenty of those.

FreedomandPeace · 20/10/2025 12:29

Posted again your thread title OP

“Feel like once the hostages are handed over Israel will start bombing again

Wakeuplittlebunnies · 10/10/2025

It seems too good to be true, a final end to the war.
After all the plans that were announced with regards to annexation and the Israeli far-right government members, I can’t help but feel that once all of the hostages are released Israel will go ham on Gaza.
There will be nothing to stop them bombing everywhere.
No hostages to avoid bombing.
No families pleading with the Israeli ministers.
Israel has broken so many ceasefires and this was with the hostages lives at stake.
I don’t know, but I can’t celebrate with everyone as I don’t believe it will last and my heart says that’s it’s going to get worse.”

Oh how right you were @Wakeuplittlebunnies

HellsBalls · 20/10/2025 13:13

The ceasefire has resumed.

Alittlefeedbackwouldbenice · 20/10/2025 14:22

HellsBalls · 20/10/2025 13:13

The ceasefire has resumed.

Except Israel are still shooting people.

HellsBalls · 20/10/2025 14:55

Alittlefeedbackwouldbenice · 20/10/2025 14:22

Except Israel are still shooting people.

So are Hamas. What’s your point?

Alittlefeedbackwouldbenice · 20/10/2025 15:43

HellsBalls · 20/10/2025 14:55

So are Hamas. What’s your point?

Hamas shooting Palestinians is disgusting and wrong but it doesn't break the ceasefire.

The IDF shooting Palestinians is disgusting and wrong AND it breaks the ceasefire AND your comment was in relation to Israel 'resuming' the ceasefire.

SpaceRaccoon · 20/10/2025 15:43

"Hamas decided long ago that this was a fight to the death. First it destroyed the Israeli left with endless suicide bombings. Then it destroyed the Palestinian moderates (yes, there were moderates, dear Israelis, and they desperately wanted two states and blame Hamas and its various ideological fellow travelers for that long-ago failure; I've known some of these Palestinians for almost three decades; in fact, there were always moderates, in every Palestinian generation, and they were always sidelined or murdered by the Hamas of their day in pursuit of another round of war). Then Hamas transformed Gaza into the most fortified urban-warfare battlefield in history with the unprecedented tunnel system. Then it carried out the bloodiest attack on Israeli towns in fifty years and took 251 Israeli hostages to ensure the ensuing war was the bloodiest in Israeli-Palestinian history by an order of magnitude. Then, desperate at the last because it was losing its last surviving sanctuary beneath Gaza City - and because of pressure from its chief patron Qatar rattled by an Israeli strike on its territory - it agreed to return the hostages. And literally in the first hours of the ceasefire, it immediately began a massacre of Palestinians who oppose it, who criticize it, or even who simply expressed gratitude online for food aid from people it deems enemies. It has now regained control of most of Gazan society through blood and terror - and is now using every minute of the ceasefire to prepare for renewed war. The fight with Hamas is a fight to the death, and Hamas always, always, for literally three decades, makes sure of it. The only question is how many Israelis and Palestinians it manages to drag to their deaths along the way."

https://x.com/havivrettiggur/status/1980237471473422429

Haviv Rettig Gur (@havivrettiggur) on X

Hamas decided long ago that this was a fight to the death. First it destroyed the Israeli left with endless suicide bombings. Then it destroyed the Palestinian moderates (yes, there were moderates, dear Israelis, and they desperately wanted two states...

https://x.com/havivrettiggur/status/1980237471473422429

SpaceRaccoon · 20/10/2025 15:45

Alittlefeedbackwouldbenice · 20/10/2025 15:43

Hamas shooting Palestinians is disgusting and wrong but it doesn't break the ceasefire.

The IDF shooting Palestinians is disgusting and wrong AND it breaks the ceasefire AND your comment was in relation to Israel 'resuming' the ceasefire.

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Not if Hamas shot first though.

Anyway the fragile ceasefire is back in place for now.

FreedomandPeace · 20/10/2025 17:46

SpaceRaccoon · 20/10/2025 15:45

Not if Hamas shot first though.

Anyway the fragile ceasefire is back in place for now.

There’s no evidence they did
Wheres the IDF were first in breaking the ceasefire by shooting at Palestinians near the imaginary line.

SpaceRaccoon · 20/10/2025 17:49

Imaginary line? Is that what the pro-Palestinian cool kids are calling it?

FreedomandPeace · 20/10/2025 17:50

SpaceRaccoon · 20/10/2025 15:43

"Hamas decided long ago that this was a fight to the death. First it destroyed the Israeli left with endless suicide bombings. Then it destroyed the Palestinian moderates (yes, there were moderates, dear Israelis, and they desperately wanted two states and blame Hamas and its various ideological fellow travelers for that long-ago failure; I've known some of these Palestinians for almost three decades; in fact, there were always moderates, in every Palestinian generation, and they were always sidelined or murdered by the Hamas of their day in pursuit of another round of war). Then Hamas transformed Gaza into the most fortified urban-warfare battlefield in history with the unprecedented tunnel system. Then it carried out the bloodiest attack on Israeli towns in fifty years and took 251 Israeli hostages to ensure the ensuing war was the bloodiest in Israeli-Palestinian history by an order of magnitude. Then, desperate at the last because it was losing its last surviving sanctuary beneath Gaza City - and because of pressure from its chief patron Qatar rattled by an Israeli strike on its territory - it agreed to return the hostages. And literally in the first hours of the ceasefire, it immediately began a massacre of Palestinians who oppose it, who criticize it, or even who simply expressed gratitude online for food aid from people it deems enemies. It has now regained control of most of Gazan society through blood and terror - and is now using every minute of the ceasefire to prepare for renewed war. The fight with Hamas is a fight to the death, and Hamas always, always, for literally three decades, makes sure of it. The only question is how many Israelis and Palestinians it manages to drag to their deaths along the way."

https://x.com/havivrettiggur/status/1980237471473422429

Netanyahu
September 2023

Feel like once the hostages are handed over Israel will start bombing again
FreedomandPeace · 20/10/2025 17:51

SpaceRaccoon · 20/10/2025 17:49

Imaginary line? Is that what the pro-Palestinian cool kids are calling it?

That’s what it was
It was never identified on the ground
It is now ( after the IDF kept shooting at people )
With bollards Aparently

noblegiraffe · 20/10/2025 18:51

Hamas would never break a ceasefire, I must treat any suggestion that they have done that with the utmost scepticism. It must have been Israel, not my sweet little Hamas.

<meanwhile Hamas is executing Palestinians in cold blood in the streets>

Wakeuplittlebunnies · 29/10/2025 09:50

Anyone not suprised that they have started killing children again? This is why people are still matching because this whole “ceasefire” was bullshit.

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Wakeuplittlebunnies · 29/10/2025 09:50

Anyone not suprised that they have started killing children again? This is why people are still matching because this whole “ceasefire” was bullshit.

I'm not surprised at all.

camomilelawns · 29/10/2025 10:06

Wakeuplittlebunnies · 29/10/2025 09:50

Anyone not suprised that they have started killing children again? This is why people are still matching because this whole “ceasefire” was bullshit.

It was only "bullshit" because Hamas reneged on the deal and didn't deliver the bodies of the hostages.

Hamas can't be trusted, doing a deal with them was just plain idiotic.

So if you want to object to killing children, blame Hamas.

How people think that protesting in this country will make a difference, I don't know?

Why not picket the Iranian or Qatari embassies? Those countries are both "in bed" with Hamas.

FreedomandPeace · 29/10/2025 10:56

camomilelawns · 29/10/2025 10:06

It was only "bullshit" because Hamas reneged on the deal and didn't deliver the bodies of the hostages.

Hamas can't be trusted, doing a deal with them was just plain idiotic.

So if you want to object to killing children, blame Hamas.

How people think that protesting in this country will make a difference, I don't know?

Why not picket the Iranian or Qatari embassies? Those countries are both "in bed" with Hamas.

Netanyahu and Trump knew and acknowledged that the deceased hostages would be hard to locate.

Israel did not allow diggers into Gaza till recently with Egypt now supplying them

The delayed return of the deceased hostages was noted by Trump as not breaking the ceasefire.

Meanwhile Israel has continued to bomb and kill civilians all through this ‘so called’ ceasefire.

MissyB1 · 29/10/2025 11:00

FreedomandPeace · 29/10/2025 10:56

Netanyahu and Trump knew and acknowledged that the deceased hostages would be hard to locate.

Israel did not allow diggers into Gaza till recently with Egypt now supplying them

The delayed return of the deceased hostages was noted by Trump as not breaking the ceasefire.

Meanwhile Israel has continued to bomb and kill civilians all through this ‘so called’ ceasefire.

Precisely!

dairydebris · 29/10/2025 11:01

FreedomandPeace · 29/10/2025 10:56

Netanyahu and Trump knew and acknowledged that the deceased hostages would be hard to locate.

Israel did not allow diggers into Gaza till recently with Egypt now supplying them

The delayed return of the deceased hostages was noted by Trump as not breaking the ceasefire.

Meanwhile Israel has continued to bomb and kill civilians all through this ‘so called’ ceasefire.

Hamas had a body in their hands but instead of returning it as the conditions required, they were caught on film hiding it, and then pretending to find it.

Its not hard to locate something you've personally buried a few minutes ago.

Fit that into your narrative.

MissyB1 · 29/10/2025 11:06

Alittlefeedbackwouldbenice · 15/10/2025 21:53

No, the ceasefire agreement had provisions relating to the bodies locations not being known, so this was anticipated as a likely problem.

I can understand why the relatives want the bodies back, but it's disproportional to kill further Gazans to achieve this.

You have no evidence that it's Hamas deliberately withholding them, they may be, but it's also obvious that some will be difficult to locate, perhaps most will be. Also given the lack of cold storage, and unavailability of DNA testing, it's not surprising that there was a mix up with a body. The locations the bodies have been stored in may have been destroyed, those responsible for those locations killed etc.

What we do now is they returned the living hostages as agreed, on time. They allowed some to make phone calls in the morning to their families before they release, which wasn't something they had to do.

In contrast, Israel changed the locations of return of many of the prisoners, meaning they cannot be reunited with their families. At least one family experienced violence when the IDF paid a 'visit' the night before their brother was released. Others had threatening calls telling them they must not show any joy over release.

Israel have bodies that they literally have sat in a readily accessible freezer that they are not returning, and that's ok,, but you are critical of the inability of Hamas to dig bodies out from below buildings, where they may or may not be found, with their bare hands.

Such hypocrisy is staggering.

Yes I agree, the utter hypocrisy, and in some posts what sounds suspiciously like “faux concern” for innocent civilians is really sickening, and yet sadly not surprising.

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