Feel like once the hostages are handed over Israel will start bombing again

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It seems too good to be true, a final end to the war.

After all the plans that were announced with regards to annexation and the Israeli far-right government members, I can’t help but feel that once all of the hostages are released Israel will go ham on Gaza.

There will be nothing to stop them bombing everywhere.

No hostages to avoid bombing.

No families pleading with the Israeli ministers.

Israel has broken so many ceasefires and this was with the hostages lives at stake.

I don’t know, but I can’t celebrate with everyone as I don’t believe it will last and my heart says that’s it’s going to get worse.

I agree.

Well the ceaesefire agreement acknowledged the importance of the bodies to the families who, in many cases have been tortured with not knowing what had happened to them until more recently. Just as important is the fact that Hamas has chosen to torment the families and the Israeli nation as a whole. It shows they are still acting in bad faith. Where do you draw the line when they breach agreements?

They can't be allowed to get away with it.

No, the ceasefire agreement had provisions relating to the bodies locations not being known, so this was anticipated as a likely problem.

I can understand why the relatives want the bodies back, but it's disproportional to kill further Gazans to achieve this.

You have no evidence that it's Hamas deliberately withholding them, they may be, but it's also obvious that some will be difficult to locate, perhaps most will be. Also given the lack of cold storage, and unavailability of DNA testing, it's not surprising that there was a mix up with a body. The locations the bodies have been stored in may have been destroyed, those responsible for those locations killed etc.

What we do now is they returned the living hostages as agreed, on time. They allowed some to make phone calls in the morning to their families before they release, which wasn't something they had to do.

In contrast, Israel changed the locations of return of many of the prisoners, meaning they cannot be reunited with their families. At least one family experienced violence when the IDF paid a 'visit' the night before their brother was released. Others had threatening calls telling them they must not show any joy over release.

Israel have bodies that they literally have sat in a readily accessible freezer that they are not returning, and that's ok,, but you are critical of the inability of Hamas to dig bodies out from below buildings, where they may or may not be found, with their bare hands.

Such hypocrisy is staggering.

I'm tired of this equivelance being drawn between the hostages and the released Palestinian prisoners. 250 of those released were convicted of extremely serious terror offenses. That's not hypocricy.

I honestly think Israel's best bet might be the death penalty in future, it will stop kidnappings of their citizens to leverage future release of terrorists.

What's the name of the released prisoner whose family was told not to "express joy", btw?

No, you're right, apologies. Hamas are jolly decent chaps. I'm sure they genuinely thought they had them all & wouldn't dream of upsetting anyone.

Juuuuust waiting for everyone to go back to what’s left of their homes and for aid workers etc to start to arrive, then they’ll find some excuse to bomb them again.

They allowed some to make phone calls in the morning to their families before they release, which wasn't something they had to do.

Agree @SharonEllis. Hamas must be top lads. We must be misunderstanding them after all.

I think @Alittlefeedbackwouldbenice may not have considered they shouldn’t have been holding random people they kidnapped, when invading, slaughtering and raping civilians in a neighbouring country, for two years anyway.

That was very clear.

Agree. Soooo kind of them to let the hostages ring their families after two years in captivity 🙄
Reminds me of when that activist woman Yvonne Ridley was being interviewed by Julia Hartley-Brewer last winter and said that the hostages had been treated well by Hamas, because look, they even gave them goodie bags upon release!

Just incredible. I think the phone calls probably tip the balance in favour of Hamas getting the Nobel Peace Prize next year.

What a load of typical deflection to focus on the phone calls rather than the fact that Israel are holding into bodies themselves and the inevitability of difficulty in finding bodies (some of which are 2 years old) in the ruins of Gaza.

I guess it's easier to deflect. Pretty obvious though. Beloved Israel can do no wrong. They can kidnap, and torture and hold onto the dead, and you'll not utter one word of criticism of them. At least I can say that Hamas are awful. You can't bring yourself to say the same about Israel.

Why should anyone say Israel is awful just because you say that Hamas is? Why are you drawing a parallel between a whole country and a terror organisation? Would you call Gaza awful?
People have criticised individual actions of the Israeli government on this board.

@Wedonttalkaboutboris "Being responsible for your citizens doesn’t give you a free pass to starve, bomb, or displace."
Agreed.

I think people forget that Hamas are the government in Gaza not Israel. Israel ceded control of the Gaza Strip in 2005.

I think some people really refuse to see the connection between Hamas being elected into power and Israel (and Egypt) subsequently implementing a blockade.
As far as I know there was no blockade straight after Israel’s withdrawal in 2005 and for the next two years, despite the Palestinian side starting to fire rockets at Israel shortly after the withdrawal.

Haha some on here probably think in a similar vein.

I think Trump could win the Nobel Peace Prize next year if the organisation isn't too left skewered. As long as peace holds which so far it just about does.

There's a long way to go. If it does hold, he'll deserve it, and I never thought I would think or type those words!

So why are Israel arresting Palestinians and holding them without trial? Why do they march in and out of Gaza as though they own it and treat the inhabitants like shit? Why do they allow their countrymen to move in to Palestinian homes and squat on their land?

Disgusting.

@TomeTome "So why are Israel arresting Palestinians and holding them without trial?"

Because they are a risk to national security.

"Why do they march in and out of Gaza as though they own it and treat the inhabitants like shit?"

Evidence please.

" Why do they allow their countrymen to move in to Palestinian homes and squat on their land?"
Evidence of where this is happening, please?

@camomilelawns
try watching the news now and again 🤦‍♀️

Same!

That's not an answer, don't you actually know or are you just making stuff up?

Certainly Israel isn't stealing Gazan land, so you must be referring to the West Bank. That area - originally called Transjordan - has been in dispute for years.

The bodies of Palestinians returned showed signs of beatings and summary executions

“Almost all of them had been blindfolded, and had been bound up and they had gunshots between the eyes. Almost all of them had been executed,” said Dr Ahmed al-Farra, the head of Nasser hospital’s paediatric department.
“There were also scars and discoloured patches of skin showing they had been beaten before being killed. There were also signs that their bodies had been abused after they were killed.”

www.theguardian.com/world/2025/oct/15/palestinian-bodies-returned-by-israel-show-signs-of-torture-and-execution-say-doctors

Dead bodies show signs of having died.

Not exactly a shocker is it.

I'm sure the bodies of Israelis returned by Hamas also showed signs of having received life ending injuries before their lives were ended.

War is hell.

Not died, executed and abused both before and after death

You can't seriously have expected human remains on either side to have showed signs of a peaceful, non violent death?

War is when 2 sides violently try to kill each other. It involves hatred, ultra violence, dehumanization of the enemy. Its the very worst of us.

Absolute naivety to think otherwise.

As I'm sure youre aware, Hamas are currently beating, abusing and executing Gazan civilians right now, during the ceasefire. I find that much, much more shocking. Do you?