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Feel like once the hostages are handed over Israel will start bombing again

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Wakeuplittlebunnies · 10/10/2025 06:50

It seems too good to be true, a final end to the war.

After all the plans that were announced with regards to annexation and the Israeli far-right government members, I can’t help but feel that once all of the hostages are released Israel will go ham on Gaza.

There will be nothing to stop them bombing everywhere.

No hostages to avoid bombing.

No families pleading with the Israeli ministers.

Israel has broken so many ceasefires and this was with the hostages lives at stake.

I don’t know, but I can’t celebrate with everyone as I don’t believe it will last and my heart says that’s it’s going to get worse.

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PevenseygirlQQ · 15/10/2025 15:53

AmIthatSpringy · 15/10/2025 15:51

Every Palestinian life is precious?

really?

every one?

including the terrorists?

Come on you’re being pedantic, you know what they meant

SpaceRaccoon · 15/10/2025 15:58

Netanyahu doesn’t want ceasefire, nor does he give a shit about the hostages, he wants the Gazan land all to himself so he and the likes of Trump can get even richer.

"BREAKING: Egypt announces 15 approved Palestinian technocrats to govern Gaza with Hamas playing no role"

Looks like there is a plan in place now, although quite how they're going to implement it I'm not sure:

https://x.com/AJENews/status/1978155189740728353

Al Jazeera Breaking News (@AJENews) on X

BREAKING: Egypt announces 15 approved Palestinian technocrats to govern Gaza with Hamas playing no role 🔴 LIVE updates: https://t.co/9QEgVS8Btc

https://x.com/AJENews/status/1978155189740728353

EasternStandard · 15/10/2025 16:01

SpaceRaccoon · 15/10/2025 15:58

Netanyahu doesn’t want ceasefire, nor does he give a shit about the hostages, he wants the Gazan land all to himself so he and the likes of Trump can get even richer.

"BREAKING: Egypt announces 15 approved Palestinian technocrats to govern Gaza with Hamas playing no role"

Looks like there is a plan in place now, although quite how they're going to implement it I'm not sure:

https://x.com/AJENews/status/1978155189740728353

Ok thanks for this. Maybe Hamas will step aside and give up weapons. Initially I thought no way but maybe they will.

PevenseygirlQQ · 15/10/2025 16:02

SpaceRaccoon · 15/10/2025 15:58

Netanyahu doesn’t want ceasefire, nor does he give a shit about the hostages, he wants the Gazan land all to himself so he and the likes of Trump can get even richer.

"BREAKING: Egypt announces 15 approved Palestinian technocrats to govern Gaza with Hamas playing no role"

Looks like there is a plan in place now, although quite how they're going to implement it I'm not sure:

https://x.com/AJENews/status/1978155189740728353

Tbh do Hamas really have a choice now, they either disarm or the Americans go in. Sorry I doing have X so can’t read that

Twiglets1 · 15/10/2025 16:19

Also reported in the Times of Israel dated 14th October:

Egyptian Foreign Minister Badr Abdelatty told The Associated Press ahead of yesterday’s summit that 15 Palestinian technocrats have been selected to administer postwar Gaza.

He said their names were already vetted by Israel, without disclosing them.

“We need to deploy them to take care of the daily life of the people in Gaza, and the Board of Peace should support and supervise the flow of finance and money, which will come for the reconstruction of Gaza,” he said, referring to a board that would govern Gaza and be chaired by US President Donald Trump.

Abdelatty said the 15-member committee had already been approved by all Palestinian factions, including Hamas.

He said Hamas members welcomed Trump’s plan. They “have no role in the transitional period. They are committed to that. That is why they are working on an administrative Palestinian committee to be deployed in order to take care of the daily life of the people of Gaza,” Abdelatty said.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/egyptian-fm-15-palestinian-technocrats-approved-to-manage-postwar-gaza/

PevenseygirlQQ · 15/10/2025 16:24

Twiglets1 · 15/10/2025 16:19

Also reported in the Times of Israel dated 14th October:

Egyptian Foreign Minister Badr Abdelatty told The Associated Press ahead of yesterday’s summit that 15 Palestinian technocrats have been selected to administer postwar Gaza.

He said their names were already vetted by Israel, without disclosing them.

“We need to deploy them to take care of the daily life of the people in Gaza, and the Board of Peace should support and supervise the flow of finance and money, which will come for the reconstruction of Gaza,” he said, referring to a board that would govern Gaza and be chaired by US President Donald Trump.

Abdelatty said the 15-member committee had already been approved by all Palestinian factions, including Hamas.

He said Hamas members welcomed Trump’s plan. They “have no role in the transitional period. They are committed to that. That is why they are working on an administrative Palestinian committee to be deployed in order to take care of the daily life of the people of Gaza,” Abdelatty said.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/egyptian-fm-15-palestinian-technocrats-approved-to-manage-postwar-gaza/

he said, referring to a board that would govern Gaza and be chaired by US President Donald Trump.

Oh god not Trump, I mean I presume he’ll be pumping in loads of money to Palestine, but I don’t believe he has the Palestinians best interests at heart, still think he is thinking about lining his pockets further.

Hamas members welcomed Trump’s plan. They “have no role in the transitional period. They are committed to that. That is why they are working on an administrative Palestinian committee to be deployed in order to take care of the daily life of the people of Gaza

Don’t trust Hamas at all, don’t believe they’ll be happy with that, unless there’s a nice incentive for them to do so from Trump

TomeTome · 15/10/2025 16:42

I think oversight would be better from the UN myself but if they are to help bring war criminals and reparations to rights then perhaps someone else but Trump horrifies me really.

Namechangedforgoodreasons · 15/10/2025 16:43

TomeTome · 15/10/2025 13:13

Well it’s quite hard to find your feet when your home is rubble and aide and contact with the outside world is bottlenecked through a country bent on hobbling you isn’t it?

You may be surprised to learn that the vast majority of the world do not think slaughtering, maiming, and terrorising thousands upon thousands is a reasonable response whatever the provocation. Netanyahu and any individual who used force against the Palestinian civilians must be held accountable, why wouldn’t they be? Anyone continuing blocking aide needs dealing with first.

Odd how everyone seems to forget that Gaza also has a border with Egypt.

SpaceRaccoon · 15/10/2025 16:48

I think this plan has a far, far better chance of succeeding under Trump - he actually does get things done, and I suspect they respect him for that in the ME, for all Europe is horrified by him.
The UN would be a disater, they're toothless.

TomeTome · 15/10/2025 17:16

Namechangedforgoodreasons · 15/10/2025 16:43

Odd how everyone seems to forget that Gaza also has a border with Egypt.

Do they? I’m not sure who you think doesn’t realise this. It’s in the papers fairly regularly and we all have access to maps. Who do you think is controlling the border crossing?

inamarina · 15/10/2025 17:23

SpaceRaccoon · 15/10/2025 16:48

I think this plan has a far, far better chance of succeeding under Trump - he actually does get things done, and I suspect they respect him for that in the ME, for all Europe is horrified by him.
The UN would be a disater, they're toothless.

Re: the UN and their efficiency - didn’t the IDF discover a Hezbollah tunnel entrance in Lebanon last year, just 200 metres from a UNIFIL base? How could UNIFIL have missed it?

EasternStandard · 15/10/2025 17:23

SpaceRaccoon · 15/10/2025 16:48

I think this plan has a far, far better chance of succeeding under Trump - he actually does get things done, and I suspect they respect him for that in the ME, for all Europe is horrified by him.
The UN would be a disater, they're toothless.

Agree. The success relies on Hamas co operating and not many can get them to do that.

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 15/10/2025 17:25

inamarina · 15/10/2025 14:08

Hamas attacked first, and genocide hasn’t been confirmed, so there’s that.

Gaza’s been under blockade since 2007, bombed repeatedly, and starved of basic freedom for years before Oct 7th ever happened.

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 15/10/2025 17:30

PevenseygirlQQ · 15/10/2025 15:46

I don’t think people are pretending Hamas don’t exist, I think they want to make you see that Israel are not that nice or good.

I think Hamas have to go absolutely, do I think Palestine should be governed by the likes of Trump and Blair, hell no. I don’t think Israel should have any say in what happens to Palestine when Hamas are gone. Hamas need to be trialled and put away for life

If Hamas go and there is an actual decent human being(s) in charge Palestine and the Palestinians might have a chance, where you would find someone, who knows.

Israel are not blameless either, the war criminal Netanyahu needs to be held accountable for his war crimes and for the fraud charges, and the things they have done to Palestinians are unforgivable, just like the things Hamas have done. The Israeli government wants to eradicate Palestinians just as much as Hamas want to eradicate Jews. Both sides have been documented saying heinous things and IMO they are both sides of the same coin.

Israeli need to keep out of the west bank also, “settlers” should not be allowed to take peoples homes and terrorise Palestinians, they have no claims to anyone else's home, Palestinian or not.

Netanyahu doesn’t want ceasefire, nor does he give a shit about the hostages, he wants the Gazan land all to himself so he and the likes of Trump can get even richer.

Hamas doesn’t want a ceasefire because they want to take all of Israels land and continue to reign over innocent Palestinians with their terror.

Well said

SpaceRaccoon · 15/10/2025 17:35

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 15/10/2025 17:25

Gaza’s been under blockade since 2007, bombed repeatedly, and starved of basic freedom for years before Oct 7th ever happened.

Why was the blockade against Gaza implemented? Could it have anything to do with Hamas being voted in there?

TomeTome · 15/10/2025 17:44

I don’t really think “teeth” is what you look for to move away from the swill of trauma being acted out in the Middle East. I personally think Trump has little understanding of the players and is definitely seen as pro Israeli. Is that you going to help going forward?

Ihatetomatoes · 15/10/2025 17:44

Twiglets1 · 15/10/2025 16:19

Also reported in the Times of Israel dated 14th October:

Egyptian Foreign Minister Badr Abdelatty told The Associated Press ahead of yesterday’s summit that 15 Palestinian technocrats have been selected to administer postwar Gaza.

He said their names were already vetted by Israel, without disclosing them.

“We need to deploy them to take care of the daily life of the people in Gaza, and the Board of Peace should support and supervise the flow of finance and money, which will come for the reconstruction of Gaza,” he said, referring to a board that would govern Gaza and be chaired by US President Donald Trump.

Abdelatty said the 15-member committee had already been approved by all Palestinian factions, including Hamas.

He said Hamas members welcomed Trump’s plan. They “have no role in the transitional period. They are committed to that. That is why they are working on an administrative Palestinian committee to be deployed in order to take care of the daily life of the people of Gaza,” Abdelatty said.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/egyptian-fm-15-palestinian-technocrats-approved-to-manage-postwar-gaza/

That sounds more positive.

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 15/10/2025 18:00

SpaceRaccoon · 15/10/2025 17:35

Why was the blockade against Gaza implemented? Could it have anything to do with Hamas being voted in there?

I’m not about to go back through decades of occupation, blockade and repeated assaults that have kept Palestinians trapped in a cycle of violence since 1948. It just blows my mind that people still talk as if this all began on October 7th.

HellsBalls · 15/10/2025 18:07

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EasternStandard · 15/10/2025 18:17

TomeTome · 15/10/2025 17:44

I don’t really think “teeth” is what you look for to move away from the swill of trauma being acted out in the Middle East. I personally think Trump has little understanding of the players and is definitely seen as pro Israeli. Is that you going to help going forward?

Things are possible but they are more so without an armed Hamas, do you agree on that part?

I think it’s such a big problem it’ll take all kinds of people adding to the solution. Someone linked other administrators who sound moderate.

It needs everyone aiming for lasting peace.

inamarina · 15/10/2025 18:18

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 15/10/2025 18:00

I’m not about to go back through decades of occupation, blockade and repeated assaults that have kept Palestinians trapped in a cycle of violence since 1948. It just blows my mind that people still talk as if this all began on October 7th.

Funny how you mention the blockade, yet refuse to talk about the reasons why it was implemented (not just by Israel btw, but also by Egypt).
And talking of repeater assaults, did they only ever come from the Israeli side or did Palestinians launch attacks too?

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 15/10/2025 18:18

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Wow. Comparing two million civilians- half of them children- to “vicious dogs” really says more about your mindset than theirs.

Dehumanisation always comes before mass killing. You might want to reflect on why you feel comfortable using that language.

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 15/10/2025 18:25

inamarina · 15/10/2025 18:18

Funny how you mention the blockade, yet refuse to talk about the reasons why it was implemented (not just by Israel btw, but also by Egypt).
And talking of repeater assaults, did they only ever come from the Israeli side or did Palestinians launch attacks too?

I haven’t refused to talk about anything. I’ve addressed repeated assaults, the blockade, and the wider context of occupation. The point I’ve been consistently making is that civilians, especially children, are dying in huge numbers, and that this humanitarian crisis is real regardless of why the blockade was imposed. Shifting the focus to who started it is just pathetic.

TomeTome · 15/10/2025 18:26

A calm response to an upsetting post @Wedonttalkaboutboris well put.

I agree that it will take so many people trying for peace in such very abrasive circumstances that it is daunting. The denial of abhorrent behaviour on both sides has to stop and an almost inhuman strength drawn on. I don’t think Trump has the level of integrity needed, but if it must be him then everyone must work even harder because he isn’t known for taking the harder path.

inamarina · 15/10/2025 18:28

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 15/10/2025 18:25

I haven’t refused to talk about anything. I’ve addressed repeated assaults, the blockade, and the wider context of occupation. The point I’ve been consistently making is that civilians, especially children, are dying in huge numbers, and that this humanitarian crisis is real regardless of why the blockade was imposed. Shifting the focus to who started it is just pathetic.

Why was the blockade implemented then?