Thoughts to the Jewish community in the UK

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There is a massive rise in anti semitism in the UK and other countries. Jewish people here have nothing to do with the conflict in Gaza, nothing at all.

The rise in anti semitism is disgusting.

Sending thoughts to the victims, their family and friends. No one should feel terrorised in the UK. People should feel safe here.

@FattyMcFattyArsesorry I completely disagree with your post.
would you say that to Muslims after 9/11 and then continue to say that (whilst advocating marching, targeting, spitting, attacking people) whose only connection is their Jewishness. Netanyahu and his cabinet dragged Jews out of Gaza years ago leaving a clear path to peace and success with a well set up info structure. This was not a popular decision. Rockets have been continued to be fired from them onwards and even today. Israel underwent the most brutal attack in its history. Don’t you dare blame them for today.

I take no pleasure from your half arsed ‘ I don’t condone that’ how big of you.

and you have to remember Palestinians DO live across the world in peace. Massively in numbers in Jordan and other surrounding countries. They aren’t being blown up, stabbed, attacked run over, set on fire etc in other countries.

Tell me none of those things are a reality for you without telling me. This would NOT be tolerated for any other race/ religion/ creed. People like you are partially responsible.

I am too upset today for the ‘whataboutery’ on here.

Starmer is ‘my government’ not Netanyahu
Thick people think we are homogenous mass. Conspiracy theory type thickos.

It’s all sounds so one sided…. This is when ignorance is dangerous. The infantilising of Gazans on here is beyond a joke.

@PollyPaintsFlowershow do we know what he was?

Erm, by reading the news...?

His name was Jihad:

https://news.sky.com/story/synagogue-stabbing-latest-police-at-scene-of-reported-attack-in-manchester-13442674

1. what happened today was horrendous and unfair.
2. I still want to hope that the majority of the human race have good in their hearts and would never want a Jewish child to be scared in Manchester no more than a Gaza child to be scared in a war zone.
3. Many seem to have blurred lines differentiating between Judaism and Zionism and this is a big problem.
4. I know plenty of people who find the scenes in Gaza abhorrent and can only be described as genocide. This does not directly (or in any way mean they hate Jewish people) I live in a country (not UK) where people protest about the current situation in Palestine because of starving innocent children amongst other atrocities there. Out of those who support Palestine that I know, none would support the horrendous actions of the extremist in Manchester today.
5. Persecution because of your faith is wrong on every level
6. It is fair to denounce wrongdoings against human beings and nobody should be ridiculed for that - it doesn’t mean you are an antisemite by default (yes some people are and I get that but some people are not and simply want to call out unjust behaviour)

Netanyahu has whipped up hatred or at least resentment over the past 2 years. I think he has done Jewish people around the world a huge disservice by putting them in danger through his actions. People will want to retaliate.

Retaliate? Against British Citizens? What the fuck have some Mancunians got to do with a war in the Middle East?

Adding my support for all Jews today and my condolences to all who knew and loved those who were murdered. This attack is intended to terrorise and it has. I hope anyone Jewish who reads this thread knows how many of us abhor and condemn the rising antisemitism and the fear you face every day.

I just want to add my sincerest sympathies for those who have been directly affected by this horrific attack and for the wider Jewish community, who must be feeling very vulnerable right now. This is awful and unforgivable, and I stand in solidarity with you as you try to navigate your way through this very difficult time.

Regardless of what people might think about what is or isn't going on in Gaza, these were just innocent people going about their lives here in Britain - celebrating their special day and doing no harm to anyone. It's horrific to think that they were targeted simply for being Jewish.

We have learnt so little from history. I am sorry that anyone has to deal with this kind of hate.

This with bells on. 🔔

https://bod.org.uk/bod-news/two-years-since-oct-7/

A peaceful demonstration of support. No hate just support.

A question for anti-Netanyahu posters on here:

What would the correct response to October 7th and the taking of 00's of hostages along with numerous dead bodies have been?

Yes, in a similar vein the perpetrators of 9/11 and Isis and the Taliban etc have done similar.

I'm not sure what you mean when you say "people like you" but I'm not to blame for any violence. I don't attack or spit or whatever you think I do. I am antiviolence, antiwar, antiapartheid, antigenocide, antibombing - whoever is doing it.

I'm saying that a government has acted in a way that puts people whom others associate with that country at risk. I think that's fair comment, even if you don't agree.

Terrible. We were with Jewish friends on a trip to London and got caught up in one of those horrible marches. Felt so threatening and intimidating.

To respond by investigating it as a crime, find and arrest those responsible and put them through due process through the courts, ensuring the law was applied while also complying with international law. And send rescue parties to get the hostages back or better still negotiate their return.

Not launch a war against a whole people, rain down hell on their land, destroy their homes, kill 66,000 people, attack other countries, assassinate journalists and medical staff, starve children to death and blockade medical aid and food supplies.

"Find and arrest those responsible....".

Hardly a realistic answer.

How would you go about this in a densely populated area on top of a warren of reinforced concrete tunnels containing a well-armed and brutal terrorist force equating to multiple brigades?

Impossible.

How do you know he was mentally unwell ? I thought police are treating this as an act of terrorism ? His name was jihad too which kind of corroborates the point .
British Jews have seen this coming for a while . Tonight my son in laws friend lies injured in his kidney from this terrorist .
it feels like you’re trying to divert from the fact that he’s Muslim , his name is jihad and he targeted Jews praying in synagogue - not Israelis , Jews .

Double bells on
British Jews - the ground is burning under your feet .
Dont leave it too late to run

Be honest now. We didn't need to find out his incredibly on-the-nose name to know with 99.9% certainty what we were dealing with here.
The faux naivety is so deeply tiring.

I live in a huge community of Jewish expats abroad. Most of them Israeli. I don’t even know where to begin with making it clear I support them and that I am ashamed that this has happened in Britain and ashamed at the British response, with people still marching and pretending the man was a mentally ill lone actor ffs so they can keep deluding themselves that their rabid pro-Palestinian useful idiocy wasn’t a contributor. You emboldened this, marchers and Palestine flag wavers and morons who spread hate about Israel for the last 2 years… or decade… or longer. You don’t get to just step back and wring your hands and say ‘well I support palestine but am so sad for what happened in manchester’. The positions are mutually exclusive.

If you support Jews and condemn antisemitism, stop waving flags and spreading antisemitism thinly disguised as political opinion online and marching against the existence of the only Jewish nation in the world. It’s that simple.

This is the most ridiculous thing I’ve read lately. So if thousands of terrorists stormed England, raping and murdering and kidnapping babies you’d calmly say ‘pretty please can I have them back?’. Do you understand anything about Hamas?

The antisemitism on this thread, on this subject matter of all things, is astounding. Many of you should hang your heads in shame, but you won't, because you don't see Jews' humanity.

Just remember, when more Jews are attacked and more Jews leave the UK for their safety, know that you'll have had a hand in that and all normal thinking people will know it's down to people like you.

Not launch a war against a whole people, rain down hell on their land, destroy their homes, kill 66,000 people, attack other countries,

You remember the war on terror? Or the Troubles? Do you think if there was a terror attack here equivalent to 7/10 that the UK would do nothing?

Just remember, when more Jews are attacked and more Jews leave the UK for their safety, know that you'll have had a hand in that and all normal thinking people will know it's down to people like you.

I don't think they care, perhaps they will when it's their turn to be attacked. Although I'm not sure, some will probably volunteer for social media clout.

There must be a small part of them that still holds a shred of conscience, surely?

Although realistically, if they are attacked, they'll still blame the Jews even if none are left in the UK