Gaza Flotilla - genuine peace activists or Hamas puppets?

[TicklishMauveSquid]

It has been reported that these activists have rejected the Italian government and the Vatican's proposal to unload any aid they are carrying in Cyprus, to be transferred peacefully to Gaza.

They seem intent on sailing into a legal blockade in a warzone as a direct provocation to Israel who will be forced to take control of 50 boats and the people on them.

They have made lots of unproven allegations that Israel has attacked their boats which may well be to precursor violent resistance in 'self defence'.

They could be carrying anything, including weapons.

There is quite compelling evidence of Hamas/Muslim Brotherhood connections to this so called humanitarian flotilla, which could be considered perverse in the extreme seeing as Hamas has caused the humanitarian crisis in Gaza.

https://govextra.gov.il/mda/march-to-gaza/the-hidden-networks-behind-the-global-sumud-flotilla

Hundreds of Israeli boat owners are being encouraged to counter protest in Navy approved zones (without interfering) as a presence 'a blue and white wall for the hostages'.

What do we think the outcome of this will be with Italian and Spanish Navy vessels in the mix?

This is quite a different situation than the ONE boat in the earlier failed attempt to breach the blockade this year where the 'activists' were peacefully appeased with sandwiches and sent on their way (after refusing to watch footage of Oct 7th).

How do you think they are going to 'challenge' if the IDF board the boats to take control of them or tells them to disembark?

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-acknowledges-palestinian-civilians-harmed-gaza-aid-sites-says-lessons-2025-06-30/

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-06-27/ty-article-magazine/.premium/idf-soldiers-ordered-to-shoot-deliberately-at-unarmed-gazans-waiting-for-humanitarian-aid/00000197-ad8e-de01-a39f-ffbe33780000

They have admitted warning shots on a number of occasions also.

Quite clearly explained here.

unwatch.org/item-7/claim/claim-6-israels-blockade-of-gaza-is-illegal

Pertinent clause here as Israel is deliberately starving the civilian population

One key clause is that blockades cannot be imposed with “the sole purpose of starving the civilian population.” If the blockaded territory has insufficient food, then the party imposing the blockade must enable the free passage of food and essential supplies.

I’ve nothing but best wishes to that flotilla of brave and peaceful humanitarians a who are attempting to enter Gaza, providing basic food and medical subsistence to targeted civilians while standing up to a brutal Israeli and American genocide.

Godspeed the flotilla.

Feel the same @Gansy 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸

But Hamas are quite a big factor is this war, are they not?

They started it and won't disarm or surrender, or release the hostages.

That's why it has been going on for 2 years.

*By an Israeli rightwing lobby spin doctor collective…

Doesn't say in those articles that Israel have killed almost 1400 people waiting to get food.

The thread is a desperate attempt to manufacture consent for the Israeli forces to attack the flotilla "because Hamas".

The folk on board are best of humanity ❤️

I literally came on to post the same thing.

I would say considering criteria for famine have been reached in parts of the region then this negates anything Israel is saying about its legality.

Yes interesting website @TicklishMauveSquid is that where all your points come from?

I never said it did.

You can make of the evidence what you will.

The naivety on here is breathtaking and shows how very little some who post on here actually know. ‘Hamas have very little power’ they still challenge every aid truck coming through and if that were true we wouldn’t have hostages still held.

’israel should let them in, deliver the aid and leave’ as if that would happen? A small amount of aid brought into an active war zone by a Kermit the hat wearing teenager and they will let her sail out? She would be another hostage really quickly. And the remains flotilla members (those who haven’t fallen out due to homophobia) would be taken as pawns for pressure on their respective governments. The Spanish lady rapist denier to FAFO about the claims she made today about women hostages being to ‘ugly’ to rape. What a courageous bunch.

It just beggars belief. I hope they hold them much longer and imprison them before deporting them. It’s a performative waste of time with everything else going on. Am Israel’s chai.

@BelleHathorafter Greta saying several times Israel were going to attack them Tunisia have confirmed that has not happened. She is an eco warrior spilling tons of fuel into the ocean on a fruitless mission that will end in failure.

Why would Hamas take them hostage if according to the Israeli's the flotilla is organised by Hamas?

Imprison them for what?

So drawing attention to the deliberate starvation of a civilian population is a waste of time? Should Israel just be allowed to continue unchallenged to complete its genocidal project??

most people don’t think so

Presumably very similar reasons to why Hamas would use its own citizens as human shields while they shelter in tunnels. Because Hamas would feel like it might serve their purposes and they wouldn't give a shit about the wellbeing of the humans involved.

I would call them fool hardy, entitled, and naive if I was being charitable.

Although no doubt some on the boat know exactly what they are doing and may be preying on the above.

Brave is not something I would use to describe them.

They have had a fun month long cruise and Greta, at least, knows all that will happen is that they have to remember to ditch their phones in the sea (that will be a lot of pollution with 300 odd phone batteries) then after being asked nicely to disembark, they get to enjoy a tasty sandwich and smile at some handsome soldiers and then a free flight home, followed by some media attention to tell their stories of being kidnapped by the evil Israelis.

To be fair Israel are quite Keen on human shields too so that makes two of them.

Still not seeing it though, if Hamas are the great propagandists that it is claimed they are on here attacking a group of internationals would be propaganda suicide.

What’s breathtaking is the brainwashed support of genocide and upholding of war criminals. As is the length posters will go to justify sustained extreme violence on innocent civilians and children.

I see you are worried about the environmental impact of the flotilla perhaps you should be more concerned re the below
”An act of ecocide’
The scale and long-term impact of the destruction in Gaza have led to calls for it to be investigated as a potential war crime, and to be classed as ecocide, which covers damage done to the environment by deliberate or negligent actions.
Under the Rome Statute, which governs the international criminal court, it is a war crime to intentionally launch an excessive attack knowing that it will cause widespread, long-term and severe damage to the natural environment The Geneva conventions require that warring parties do not use methods of warfare that cause “widespread, long-term and severe damage to the natural environment”.
Saeed Bagheri, a lecturer in international law at Reading University, says that while there are disagreements about how to apply these articles, there are enough grounds to investigate the damage done to Gaza’s environment already.

You possibly spend a lot of time online on this issue then. I'd never heard of hasbara (thanks for the vocabulary improvement!) but I do remember the horror of Arrigoni's murder, and of course he will be remembered while this flotilla is in the news. It's disrespectful to his memory to call that a gotcha - it's important to note that commitment to the cause does not guarantee safe landing. He wasn't murdered by Hamas but by a group who thought that Hamas were too moderate - and which wasn't funded by Netanyahu at the time, not least because Netanyahu wasn't PM at the time. Arrigoni's murder was also not long after Hamas were elected / remained in power. I'm dubious about any suggestion that they just had no idea about other groups operating within what is a very small area.

If I in the Israeli government I'd be very tempted to let them land.

You’re entitled to, but can’t say that surprised me. You’ve literally started this thread to try and portray them in a bad light.

The concern for pollution of 300 dumped iPhone batteries in the sea amidst the IDFs use of munitions, daily bombardment of white phosphorus and complete wreckage of most of Gaza is really… something.

Anyway, Godspeed the flotilla. May they show hope to innocent civilians and even to the Israelis who are stuck in extremism.