Gaza Flotilla - genuine peace activists or Hamas puppets?

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It has been reported that these activists have rejected the Italian government and the Vatican's proposal to unload any aid they are carrying in Cyprus, to be transferred peacefully to Gaza.

They seem intent on sailing into a legal blockade in a warzone as a direct provocation to Israel who will be forced to take control of 50 boats and the people on them.

They have made lots of unproven allegations that Israel has attacked their boats which may well be to precursor violent resistance in 'self defence'.

They could be carrying anything, including weapons.

There is quite compelling evidence of Hamas/Muslim Brotherhood connections to this so called humanitarian flotilla, which could be considered perverse in the extreme seeing as Hamas has caused the humanitarian crisis in Gaza.

https://govextra.gov.il/mda/march-to-gaza/the-hidden-networks-behind-the-global-sumud-flotilla

Hundreds of Israeli boat owners are being encouraged to counter protest in Navy approved zones (without interfering) as a presence 'a blue and white wall for the hostages'.

What do we think the outcome of this will be with Italian and Spanish Navy vessels in the mix?

This is quite a different situation than the ONE boat in the earlier failed attempt to breach the blockade this year where the 'activists' were peacefully appeased with sandwiches and sent on their way (after refusing to watch footage of Oct 7th).

You have seen people be critical of the Israeli government and Israeli actions in Gaza. This is not what hate looks like. Supporting Palestinians civilians and thinking they should not be killed is not hateful. Ireland supports a two state solution anyway.

If the objective of the flotilla is indeed to highlight the blockade of Gaza by Israel then why haven't there been and why aren't there protests about Egypt closing the Rafah border crossing.

Up until the 7th October there were thousands of Gazans who daily commuted to work in Israel, whereas Egypt since July 2013 has pretty much closed the Rafah crossing for people (although goods continued).

To protest against Israel currently closing the borders to Gaza or to try and breach the blockade but not protest against Egypt historically and currently doing the same or try to breach the Rafah crossing must mean that there is something different about Egypt closing their crossing.

Quite simply this double standards is what leads to calls of anti semitism.

And yet there seems to be blind ignorance about the actual threat to Israel. I'm not sure "horrific scenes of violence" quite conveys the savagery of it.

I believe a one state solution might better achieve peace, but not through deporting Palestinians but sharing a country equally with Palestinians

Does anyone really believe that's what Hamas and the Gazans want? To share life peacefully and equally with Israel?

Perhaps visit Gaza pretending to be a Jewish woman and see what happens next.

There actually was a Global March to Gaza which included between 3,500 and 4,000 people - they marched to the Rafah crossing!

The march to Gaza was aiming to enter the Rafah crossing and highlighted their treatment by the Egyptian authorities.

However their is a difference, at the moment, only Israel can facilitate aid deliveries to Gaza.

Okay, in your mind what would a one state solution look like?

I've seen criticism of the Israel government and IDF actions in Gaza, I've even contributed to some of the criticisms of both.

But I've also seen hatred towards Israel and an attitude of they got what they deserved from some posters. I've reported some disgusting posts that subsequently got deleted and other people get the worst posts deleted too.

I know what I've seen and I do know the difference between valid criticism and hate.

There is a video on X of an Israeli Navy officer from one of the flotilla boats saying there was no aid on board and showing the empty inside of the boat.

So no baby formula..............

Explains why they refused offers to unload the aid before, because they didn't have any!

I'm sure this will be dismissed as Israeli lies though.

No one in their right mind could believe that Hamas wants to share life peacefully and equally with Israel.

I believe some Gazans do but many have been radicalised and probably hate Israel too. This is what anyone attempting a peace deal is up against.

I saw a video by one of the crew showing the Israeli ships using water cannons on some of the boats. The drama queen recording the video was saying "They're spraying them with chemicals..." (no doubt a "chemtrails" fan)

OMG not dihydrogen monoxide!

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These people aim to promote peace, not war. Can you say the same?

Why would people on here bitchily target a brave young woman who is the age of many of our daughters, well intentioned and peaceable? There are 500 or more on the flotilla. This is bullying

Well they certainly aren’t officially saying they are used water canons on boats. Unlikely to have been a proportionate responses as they were not meeting violence and resistance.

How is this genocide funny?

There is no genocide on the futilla it was just a bit of water . If you can't see the funny side of this ludicrous charade that's fine, each to their own, but don't twist it into laughing at genocide.

That would mean capture or death. Even a pro Palestine activist was picked up in Gaza recently by a group that think Hamas is too moderate! That says how radicalised some are there. He was offered for ransom and then killed, even though he supported their cause.

There wasn't any side on their last escapade either. A small boat with enough supplies to feed them whilst they slowly sailed along. I understand they claimed they had baby milk, (that captured people), seems they didn't. It all adds to the white saviour narrative though, and people on Instagram and tick toc lap it up. Small soundbites of info with no actual depth works really well.

Anyway more importantly less hope the peace plan moves forward

So a video on X showing there was no baby formula is your evidence that there wasn’t any? By the same people who deny withholding the baby food in the first place, even though several doctors volunteering at the bombed out hospitals in Gaza have testified that they were told to take it out of their luggage while babies are starving to death. You’re saying people lap up Insta and TkTok but what you lap up on X is ok?

And yes, of course the flotilla is about the genocide. Hundreds of people from over 40 nationalities were moved to take action because Israel, by its own admission, is blocking aid to a starving and desperate people. It’s called compassion.

It's a pretty harmless way of facilitating boarding without resorting to more aggressive force.

Was Egypt carpet bombing and starving the population at the same time?

I've watched the video from the flotilla it shows bright lights so they can see everyone on board, and water being sprayed towards the boats. Someone says it's chemicals but another man on the boat says its water.

They are all sat on deck and there are lots of them for such a small boat, where on earth the aid might be, especially since they have to also eat, so logically, its minimal due to physical size of ship. Unless the boat is a tardis type myth of course.

They were safely secured away from the active war zone. They should be shown the fate of the poor deluded Italian activist that actually got into Gaza, only managed a few days before being killed by another terrorist group. At least they are safe and cannot end up like him.

Let's hope the peace plan works and they can return to just stop oil black life's matter or climate awareness (badly needed).

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/oct/01/israel-gaza-aid-global-sumud-flotilla-middle-east-crisis-latest-updates

The Guardian covers the gentle interception by the IDF with bright lights and water spray, looks pretty inoffensive. You can clearly see the number of activists on board the snall boat.