Trump's new Gaza Plan

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Return of the hostages and an Islamic Arab government: Inside Trump's new Gaza plan:

The Trump administration has reportedly put forward a peace plan which would eventually lead to a complete end to the war in Gaza, a Western source told the Lebanese media site Elnashra on Wednesday, only a day after US President Donald Trump met with the leaders of Muslim countries.

The plan reportedly includes a 20-day ceasefire followed by the return of the hostages. It is unclear in the report, however, how many of the 48 hostages would be returned at this stage of the deal.

Following the return of the abductees, an Arab administration made up of Islamic nations would take over the administration of the Palestinian enclave, according to Elnashra. During this time, a Palestinian government would reportedly be built without the infiltration of Hamas.

Other sources told the Lebanese paper that the Muslim leaders attending the meeting with Trump were supportive of the American president's proposal. Still, they were reportedly awaiting a response from Hamas and Israel to see if the proposal could be fruitful.

The meeting was held on the sidelines of the United Nations General Assembly in New York and included leaders from the United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan, Turkey, Indonesia, and Pakistan.

www.jpost.com/israel-news/defense-news/article-868469

Hamas are still claiming not to have even received the US ceasefire proposal.

I'm hoping it's true what Qatar claim - that they are able to convince Hamas to disarm & accept Trump plan.

I suppose they must have some influence if they are harbouring top Hamas officials with expensive properties & luxury lifestyles.

We can debate the veracity, and indeed the legitimacy, of all the actions you mentioned, and it might make for an interesting discussion. Though in all honesty I doubt you'd come to it in good faith.

However, all that is no contradiction to my earlier claim: Israel has only ever retaliated, not initiated.

You might think its retaliation is heavy handed and disproportionate, but it's still only ever retaliation. If the Palestinians don't attack first, there is no Israeli response.

Also agreed.

I think if this deal goes ahead, we'll see the masks come off from the people pretending they care about Palestinians. Much like they didn't care about what Hamas wrought on the Gazan people, they won't like like this.

Israel may have been decimated on the world stage but it's still standing and will only get stronger when it's not constantly using resources to prevent it's annihilation.

I can't see a problem with any of this:

20 key points from the Trump-Netanyahu meeting

1. Gaza to be a deradicalised terror-free zone
2. Gaza to be redeveloped for the benefit of the people of Gaza
3. Immediate end to war, if both sides agree
4. Within 72 hours of Israel publicly accepting agreement, all Hamas-held hostages to be returned
5. Once all hostages released, Israel to return 250 life sentence prisoners plus 1,700 detained Gazans
6. Hamas members who commit to peaceful co-existence and decommissioning weapons to be given amnesty. Members of Hamas who wish to leave Gaza provided with safe passage
7. If deal agreed, full aid to be be immediately sent into the Gaza Strip
8. Entry of distribution and aid in Gaza to proceed without interference from the two parties
9. Gaza to be governed under temporary governance committee. The committee will be made up of qualified Palestinians and international experts, chaired by President Trump alongside others including Sir Tony Blair

10. A Trump economic development plan to rebuild and energise Gaza will be created 11. A special economic zone to be established with preferred tariff and access rates 12. No one will be forced to leave Gaza, and those who wish to leave will be free to do so — and free to return 13. Hamas and other factions agree to not have any role in the governance of Gaza. All military and terror infrastructure, including tunnels and weapon production facilities, to be destroyed 14. A guarantee provided by regional partners to ensure Hamas, and factions, comply with their obligations and that New Gaza poses no threat to its neighbours 15. A temporary International Stabilisation Force (ISF) to immediately deploy in Gaza. The ISF will train and provide support to vetted Palestinian police forces in the Strip 16. Israel will not occupy or annex Gaza. As the ISF establishes control, the IDF will withdraw. The IDF will progressively hand over the Gaza territory it occupies to the ISF 17. In the event Hamas delays or rejects this proposal, the above, including the scaled-up aid operation, will proceed in the terror-free areas handed over from the IDF to the ISF 18. Interfaith dialogue process to be established based on the values of tolerance and peaceful co-existence to try and change mindsets and narratives of Palestinians and Israelis 19. As Gaza re-development advances, the conditions may finally be in place for a credible pathway to Palestinian self-determination and statehood 20. The United States will establish a dialogue between Israel and the Palestinians to agree on a political horizon for peaceful and prosperous co-existence

The ME countries wouldn't have agreed to that would they?

It sounds like it was a joint effort. Qatar agreed to the plan.
Saudia Arabia, UAE, Jordan, Turkey, Indonesia, Pakistan and Egypt all worked on it.

I note that Israel have only agreed not to annex Gaza - no mention of the West Bank so presumably they will continue with their annexations there.

It’s a step in the right direction but still falls along way short of protecting the population of Palestine.

Surely anything is better than what is happening now for all concerned?

I find it a bit disconcerting that no one's actually said yes, I trust Trump, this sounds like a good plan.

The man isn't exactly stable, he's a megalomaniac, his narcissism is off the scale, he isn't the remotest bit objective, he seems to approve of the idea of him being worshipped as a god-like being in Gaza, he keeps talking about the real estate opportunities!!

Just because something's better than the status quo doesn't make it right.

For those who are in favour of this plan, can you tell me why you think Trump is the right person for the job?

Because he's the one who has made this happen and is the most powerful person in the world.

Trump made it clear that wouldn't happen.

I wonder who the 250 life sentence prisoners will be?

Not sure why Israel agreed to that.

I feel like there's an annoying wasp buzzing around

If not Trump, who else would you suggest? Who else has the clout and influence?

How is a ceasefire not good for the Palestinians?

Israel will withdraw, Hamas will not be involved in running Gaza, there will be a cessation of violence and they can get in with rebuilding.

Which but if that is bad?

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@Alittlefeedbackwouldbeniceyep Hamas has been played at their own game.

Exactly, especially when you consider Sinwar who masterminded and ran October 7th, was freed from an Israeli jail in a previous hostage exchange

If not for that there'd have been no October 7th massacre and no subsequent war

Horrible terrorists ... I guess Israel had to agree to some things they didn't really want. Neither side could realistically expect to get everything they want.

I take it you haven’t heard they’re opening a Nutella Cafe in Gaza?

He sees himself as a peacemaker, and his narcissism will ensure that this deal is a success. It will be his lifetime legacy and his memory will be lauded for generations so he will get it done.

Exactly ... who else has the clout to get Netanyahu to listen to them and also get the ME countries on board too with helping to thrash out a realistic peace deal?

No I don't like Trump as a person, his policies or anything. But he was the only one who could do this.

And its exactly why the demilitarisation is so essential. Because time & time again Israel released the people who went on to attack them.

Effectively trumping in charge of Gaza, it's a tiny step away from colonising it. Which Trump has threatened to do previously, and redeveloped everyone except for the Palestinians!

I think there are definite problems within the plan, but that it's a good starting point towards peace if (and only if) It's headed in a more sensible way.

If it was headed by representatives from various countries, including Muslim ones, and without Trump in charge, then that sounds like a positive step. Have a council with the head (or a former head) of the UN providing leadership. Or potentially someone very senior in the EU. Maybe see if Merkel will come out of retirement for it - well known, respected, a friend to Israel, but not seen as biased in the same way Trump is.

Agree
and who are these interested industries who will help develope Gaza and offer job opportunities
It really does sound like Trump speak for Trump land.

Im worried by all this but desperate for the starvation and deaths to stop.

Lets have peace
Lets give back Gaza to the Palestinians
Lets keep Trump and Blair out of it!!

Why did this deal have to include them. The January deal didn’t and was agreed by both sides.
Isn’t it Wierd that Trump has been more involved in this deal and now puts himself forward to play a key role in Gaza after Israel have left.
We know he only does something if he has something to gain

Whether it’s agreed upon or not in the long term I can’t see this coming off well for the people of Palestine

I also think the omission of any mention of the West Bank and Illegal Israeli settlers is a mistake. If Trump is so concerned about Palestinians the West Bank would be included

🙏 an agreement that benefits all happens very very soon

See this is one bit of a deal I think we can agree with! I'd be wanting to not releasing any of them, but with a commitment that those that want their case appealed to an independent (non Israeli) court can do so, with some expediency. The 90 something percent conviction rate of the Israeli military courts, leads to many questions over their independence. So rather than just releasing people who may well be murderers, in bulk, I'd rather all of those convicted have the chance to be tried before an independent court.

The guilty can stay in prison, though found not guilty must be released.