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Conflict in the Middle East

This is the reality of what Israel is doing (part 7)

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Eyesopenwideawake · 20/07/2025 08:45

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jul/19/killing-of-young-siblings-at-gaza-water-point-shows-seeking-lifes-essentials-now-a-deadly-peril

A continuation of https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/conflict-in-the-middle-east/5311075-this-is-the-reality-of-what-israel-is-doing-part-6?page=1

The Israeli army are using aid centres as target practice.

The Israeli government is proposing building a 'refugee' centre in Rafah with an extra special feature - no one is allowed to leave.

Hotel California?

Killing of young siblings at Gaza water point shows seeking life’s essentials now a deadly peril

Karam al-Ghussain, 9, and Lulu, 10, were fetching water from a nearby distribution station when an Israeli strike hit it, and them

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jul/19/killing-of-young-siblings-at-gaza-water-point-shows-seeking-lifes-essentials-now-a-deadly-peril

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Stirabout · 14/06/2026 23:05

Really p….. to read this from the Independent

15 arrested after clashes at protest outside London synagogue
Individuals were seen carrying Palestinian and Israeli flags at the protest
Ted Hennessey
Sunday 14 June 2026 16:52 BST

There were clashes outside the synagogue on Sunday (Reuters)

Fifteen people were arrested after protests erupted outside a synagogue in north-west London on Sunday, police have confirmed.
Footage shared across social media platforms showed officers detaining demonstrators amid clashes outside Edgware United Synagogue, where individuals carrying both Palestinian and Israeli flags had gathered.

The Metropolitan Police stated that the arrests were made for a "range of offences, including public order matters".
Commander Adam Slonecki addressed the incident, explaining: "We have liaised with the venue and the Community Security Trust and have deployed officers to prevent serious disruption and to deal with any offences, using the full range of powers available to us including imposing conditions under the Public Order Act."

Commander Slonecki further emphasised the particular sensitivity of the location, noting: "We are mindful that Jewish communities are experiencing heightened fear and concern following two-and-a-half years of sustained protest and, in recent months, a series of arsons and other attacks."

He drew a distinction between protest venues, adding: "There is a distinction between protesting in central London and protesting in the heart of communities where the potential to cause serious disruption and intimidation is greater and our policing plan reflects that."

The Board of Deputies of British Jews expressed its strong condemnation, stating it was "deeply disturbed" by the "wholly unjustified" demonstration.’

NOT ONE SENTENCE EVEN ABOUT WHAT’S GOING ON INSIDE THAT SYNAGOGUE!!!

This is our news
hiding illegal activity
propaganda by omission

Ellen2shoes · 14/06/2026 23:07

Everything is so upside down, but even in Israel, where it’s so difficult to express dissent, Haaretz keep on with this.

There are many ways of setters’ appropriation of land, which while condemned internationally, continues to be sanitised/laundered at base. Think this is important as it’s an attempt at a swerve to appropriate vast areas without the ( if only) culpability of violence. Not diminishing that but it’s an added factor. The last 2 paragraphs are asking for intervention. Have excerpts as links not always reliable:

Only last week, Britain announced sanctions on Israel's Farms Association, which coordinates the activities of and support for settler farms in the West Bank, the settlers' flagship project since October 7, 2023. But in Israel, a criminal government is in power, and instead of stopping crime, it whitewashes it: The Defense Ministry and the military are advancing regulations to legalize these farms, in effect laundering land stolen from the Palestinians.

The state's conduct is not surprising; after all, the settlers did not steal these lands on their own. There are around 100 farms in the West Bank today that were established with the encouragement of the state and in coordination with the Israel Defense Forces. The farms are highly popular within the settlement movement, and their numbers have soared in recent years. Their advantage is that they enable the takeover of vast areas without the need for many settlers. As the settler movement leader Ze'ev Hever ("Zambish") has said, the area occupied by these farms is 2.5 times the area occupied by all the hundreds of settlements."

This is how the method worked: Unlike other settlement outposts, the farms were established by allocating grazing land on "state land" (which is, of course, the land not of the State of Israel but rather of the State of Palestine) that the World Zionist Organization's Settlement Division transferred to the settlers.

This allocation was the legal pretext for establishing the farms, but in practice, they seized much larger areas. Only 40 percent of the area controlled by the farms is "state land."

It must be stressed that even this land should never have been allocated, since what Israel considers state land in the West Bank is, in fact, Palestinian land. Today, the farms cover around 250,000 acres.

Israel is taking advantage of the fog of war and the cease-fires to deepen its control over land in the West Bank. The farms are an important tool for expelling and dispossessing Palestinians, and the attempt to legalize them will never make them legal in the eyes of the world.

These are crimes that must be addressed in Israel for what they are, and the international community must do the same

https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/editorial/2026-06-13/ty-article-opinion/as-the-u-k-sanctions-settler-farms-israel-expands-them/0000019e-c27d-dd0a-a19f-d37d52150000

U.K., allies sanction Israeli settler groups in West Bank; France bars Bezalel Smotrich — Haaretz

Alongside France, Canada, Australia and Norway, the U.K. is sanctioning groups linked to violent outposts and the forcible displacement of Palestinians The U.K. advised businesses against trade with settlements Israel said the measures 'fuel antisemiti...

https://apple.news/PA2tx0F4sjyaKmRXpYHT9_e

Boolabus · 15/06/2026 08:02

@Stirabout that is pretty shockingly biased reporting from the Independent and would lead anyone, that is not aware of what they were protesting about, to believe that it was all about intimidating Jewish people. Very disappointing and they need to be called out for it.

Agree that allowing this to go ahead and using police time and resources to protect the event means the UK are completely complicit in the sale of illegal settlements. You have the IDF protecting and aiding the illegal settlers in the West Bank and the metropolitan police protecting those selling these illegal settlements in London. Whole thing stinks

ReturnOfTheToad · 15/06/2026 09:58

The British government really needs to make it's stance on this clear. Between land sales and 32 UK charities raising almost 30 million to support illegal settlements it looks like British citizens supporting ethnic cleansing abroad is fine? If it's not fine then these charities need to be shut down and there needs to be consequences for supporting activities that breach international law.

The government needs to get off the fence on this or tensions are going to continue to rise.

KeeperOfTheSevenKeys · 15/06/2026 13:42

Stirabout · 14/06/2026 23:05

Really p….. to read this from the Independent

15 arrested after clashes at protest outside London synagogue
Individuals were seen carrying Palestinian and Israeli flags at the protest
Ted Hennessey
Sunday 14 June 2026 16:52 BST

There were clashes outside the synagogue on Sunday (Reuters)

Fifteen people were arrested after protests erupted outside a synagogue in north-west London on Sunday, police have confirmed.
Footage shared across social media platforms showed officers detaining demonstrators amid clashes outside Edgware United Synagogue, where individuals carrying both Palestinian and Israeli flags had gathered.

The Metropolitan Police stated that the arrests were made for a "range of offences, including public order matters".
Commander Adam Slonecki addressed the incident, explaining: "We have liaised with the venue and the Community Security Trust and have deployed officers to prevent serious disruption and to deal with any offences, using the full range of powers available to us including imposing conditions under the Public Order Act."

Commander Slonecki further emphasised the particular sensitivity of the location, noting: "We are mindful that Jewish communities are experiencing heightened fear and concern following two-and-a-half years of sustained protest and, in recent months, a series of arsons and other attacks."

He drew a distinction between protest venues, adding: "There is a distinction between protesting in central London and protesting in the heart of communities where the potential to cause serious disruption and intimidation is greater and our policing plan reflects that."

The Board of Deputies of British Jews expressed its strong condemnation, stating it was "deeply disturbed" by the "wholly unjustified" demonstration.’

NOT ONE SENTENCE EVEN ABOUT WHAT’S GOING ON INSIDE THAT SYNAGOGUE!!!

This is our news
hiding illegal activity
propaganda by omission

Edited

Protesters gathered after the Palestine Solidarity Campaign and other groups claimed a real estate event at the synagogue was “openly advertising the sale of land” in an “illegal Israeli settlement in the occupied West Bank”.

The third paragraph of the article.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/synagogue-protest-clash-arrests-edgware-b2995495.html

Police arrest 14 after clashes at Israeli property protest outside synagogue

Individuals were seen carrying Palestinian and Israeli flags at the protest

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/synagogue-protest-clash-arrests-edgware-b2995495.html

Stirabout · 15/06/2026 14:47

KeeperOfTheSevenKeys · 15/06/2026 13:42

Protesters gathered after the Palestine Solidarity Campaign and other groups claimed a real estate event at the synagogue was “openly advertising the sale of land” in an “illegal Israeli settlement in the occupied West Bank”.

The third paragraph of the article.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/synagogue-protest-clash-arrests-edgware-b2995495.html

That’s not the same article
I posted the first article that came out

This one you’ve posted is an update

In fact having just read it through it’s a completely different article with new updates on what people were arrested aswell.

so No point made then
but hopefully someone either complained about the biased reporting of the previous article or they decided to get their act together and post the full facts

So
Glad I posted their initial report for us all to see how things can be twisted

whoamI00 · 15/06/2026 15:20

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/4/30/media-organisations-call-on-israel-to-allow-independent-access-to-gaza

The fact that independent journalists' access to Gaza is denied implies a serious issue.

KeeperOfTheSevenKeys · 15/06/2026 15:54

Stirabout · 15/06/2026 14:47

That’s not the same article
I posted the first article that came out

This one you’ve posted is an update

In fact having just read it through it’s a completely different article with new updates on what people were arrested aswell.

so No point made then
but hopefully someone either complained about the biased reporting of the previous article or they decided to get their act together and post the full facts

So
Glad I posted their initial report for us all to see how things can be twisted

Edited

Well you didn't post a link so I had to find the article with the same publish time and author. I'll have to take your word that they linked it. Maybe they were still waiting on the statement about the land sale, or trying to verify it? No, must be some kind of sinister propaganda operarion.

Stirabout · 15/06/2026 15:57

One of many sad storeys
but let’s not forget what Israel is still doing
in a ceasefire in Gaza

Israeli forces kill three-year-old Palestinian boy on family farm in Gaza
Rayan Abu al-Ajeen was being carried in Gaza when both were shot by Israeli forces

By Maram Humaid
Published On 15 Jun 202615 Jun 2026
Deir el-Balah, Gaza Strip – Israeli forces shot and killed a three-year-old boy as his father carried him in central Gaza, the family has said.

Rayan Abu al-Ajeen was shot in the Wadi al-Salqa area of Deir el-Balah governorate on Sunday afternoon,

His father, Bahaa, was shot in the leg and is being treated in hospital.

The family says the father and son had been travelling in areas outside of the so-called ‘Yellow Line’ – not under the direct control of the Israeli military – and were heading towards the family’s greenhouses when the shooting happened.

Jaber Abu al-Ajeen, Rayan’s grandfather, says

“My grandson, Rayan, was killed by a gunshot to the head; the bullet entered his head and exited through his eye,” Jaber told Al Jazeera.

Al-Ajeen explained that his son had been taken into an area controlled by the Israeli army, and then left bleeding for seven hours until he was transferred to hospital for treatment.

The Israeli military has yet to comment on the shooting.
Israeli forces have continued attacks in Gaza since the October ceasefire, killing almost 1,000 Palestinians. In total, Israel has killed more than 73,000 Palestinians since the beginning of its genocidal war on Gaza in October 2023.’

This is the reality of what Israel is doing (part 7)
Stirabout · 15/06/2026 16:07

KeeperOfTheSevenKeys · 15/06/2026 15:54

Well you didn't post a link so I had to find the article with the same publish time and author. I'll have to take your word that they linked it. Maybe they were still waiting on the statement about the land sale, or trying to verify it? No, must be some kind of sinister propaganda operarion.

If papers are waiting for verification on anything they should wait
Not post half truths

It’s great that the earlier report and the update are both here to compare for future reference as papers try to twist the truth by omission.

So thanks for giving the opportunity to highlight that

Stirabout · 15/06/2026 16:22

KeeperOfTheSevenKeys · 15/06/2026 15:54

Well you didn't post a link so I had to find the article with the same publish time and author. I'll have to take your word that they linked it. Maybe they were still waiting on the statement about the land sale, or trying to verify it? No, must be some kind of sinister propaganda operarion.

Can I kindly ask that before any potential suggestion or thoughts are made that I am posting untruths or in bad faith you read your own links right to end

Here
You will see a note that the original article I posted was indeed updated at a later date.

not in fact just about numbers though 😆 hayho

This is the reality of what Israel is doing (part 7)
Boolabus · 15/06/2026 17:11

KeeperOfTheSevenKeys · 15/06/2026 15:54

Well you didn't post a link so I had to find the article with the same publish time and author. I'll have to take your word that they linked it. Maybe they were still waiting on the statement about the land sale, or trying to verify it? No, must be some kind of sinister propaganda operarion.

Maybe they were still waiting on the statement about the land sale, or trying to verify it?
Why would they need to verify it this morning? It's been advertised widely, raised in parliament last week as an issue and condemned by the mayor of London.

KeeperOfTheSevenKeys · 15/06/2026 20:05

Stirabout · 15/06/2026 16:22

Can I kindly ask that before any potential suggestion or thoughts are made that I am posting untruths or in bad faith you read your own links right to end

Here
You will see a note that the original article I posted was indeed updated at a later date.

not in fact just about numbers though 😆 hayho

Except I didn't suggest you were posting u truths or in bad faith.

KeeperOfTheSevenKeys · 15/06/2026 20:06

Boolabus · 15/06/2026 17:11

Maybe they were still waiting on the statement about the land sale, or trying to verify it?
Why would they need to verify it this morning? It's been advertised widely, raised in parliament last week as an issue and condemned by the mayor of London.

Because that's what reputable news outlets are supposed to do...?

manufixion · 15/06/2026 20:37

KeeperOfTheSevenKeys · 15/06/2026 13:42

Protesters gathered after the Palestine Solidarity Campaign and other groups claimed a real estate event at the synagogue was “openly advertising the sale of land” in an “illegal Israeli settlement in the occupied West Bank”.

The third paragraph of the article.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/synagogue-protest-clash-arrests-edgware-b2995495.html

Jeanine Hourani, a representative of the Palestinian Youth Movement, said: “Over the last week, we have mobilised every segment of British society to get this criminal event cancelled.

Who are the PYM to talk about criminal events?

https://peoplesforum.org/blog_post/statement-on-times-square-palestine-protest-held-on-october-8-2023/

The People's Forum

https://peoplesforum.org/blog_post/statement-on-times-square-palestine-protest-held-on-october-8-2023

Martymcfly24 · 15/06/2026 21:17

Boolabus · 15/06/2026 17:11

Maybe they were still waiting on the statement about the land sale, or trying to verify it?
Why would they need to verify it this morning? It's been advertised widely, raised in parliament last week as an issue and condemned by the mayor of London.

I wonder were any of the thugs shouting about flattening Gaza arrested for "racially aggravated" offences or does that only work one way . Its clear they came out with their Israeli flags to cause trouble.

BelleHathor · 15/06/2026 21:18

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BelleHathor · 15/06/2026 21:20

Martymcfly24 · 15/06/2026 21:17

I wonder were any of the thugs shouting about flattening Gaza arrested for "racially aggravated" offences or does that only work one way . Its clear they came out with their Israeli flags to cause trouble.

Protest Picketing GIF

Suspect it will only be one way. Perhaps we should complaining about "2 Tier Justice"!

Boolabus · 15/06/2026 21:33

KeeperOfTheSevenKeys · 15/06/2026 20:06

Because that's what reputable news outlets are supposed to do...?

You've completely missed the point. There was nothing to verify, the event had happened by the time they wrote the article and it was widely known and advertised what it was about 🙄.

Boolabus · 15/06/2026 21:39

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💯

And again for the people at the back

an event was held in a London synagogue to sell illegally stolen property and that protests against this were deliberately misrepresented to frame opposition as antisemitism.

Martymcfly24 · 15/06/2026 22:17

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Absolutely

Seems the narrative in the media is working.

However
https://news.sky.com/story/homes-in-illegal-israeli-settlements-promoted-at-london-property-show-that-sparked-protests-13554407

Homes in illegal settlements were being promoted at this event (some with pools...)
Shame on the British government allowing it to go ahead and the police for supporting it to happen.

BelleHathor · 15/06/2026 22:31

Martymcfly24 · 15/06/2026 22:17

Absolutely

Seems the narrative in the media is working.

However
https://news.sky.com/story/homes-in-illegal-israeli-settlements-promoted-at-london-property-show-that-sparked-protests-13554407

Homes in illegal settlements were being promoted at this event (some with pools...)
Shame on the British government allowing it to go ahead and the police for supporting it to happen.

What a hero ❤️that person was for obtaining these documents and props to Sky News for publishing the article.

Without that evidence it would be endless gaslighting that people were complaining about nothing.

Martymcfly24 · 15/06/2026 22:36

BelleHathor · 15/06/2026 22:31

What a hero ❤️that person was for obtaining these documents and props to Sky News for publishing the article.

Without that evidence it would be endless gaslighting that people were complaining about nothing.

I'm impressed with Sky News also. And amazing work by that person. I know the event was by invitation only so this wasn't an easy task .

Better than the BBC headlines that 14 were arrested outside a synagogue. There's gaslighting.

ReturnOfTheToad · 15/06/2026 22:46

Martymcfly24 · 15/06/2026 22:17

Absolutely

Seems the narrative in the media is working.

However
https://news.sky.com/story/homes-in-illegal-israeli-settlements-promoted-at-london-property-show-that-sparked-protests-13554407

Homes in illegal settlements were being promoted at this event (some with pools...)
Shame on the British government allowing it to go ahead and the police for supporting it to happen.

"Protesting at a synagogue based on false pretences seems to be little more than an excuse to harass and intimidate members of the Jewish community.”
(Board of Deputies of British Jews)

I wonder if given this proof the Board of Deputies of British Jews will be condemning the synagogue for allowing the advertising of homes on stolen land and apologising to the people it accused of using false pretences to harass and intimidate members of the Jewish community and will this apology make the press?

ReturnOfTheToad · 15/06/2026 22:51

I just saw a video of Israeli settlers smashing the window of a car and setting it on fire, there were 3 children in the car. This is the type of behaviour that these real estate sales, hosted and supported by a British charity(Edgware United Synagogue) and British citizens, are profiting from.

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