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Conflict in the Middle East

27 children have been murdered by the IOF every day for 650 days in Gaza (UNICEF)

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Wedonttalkaboutboris · 19/07/2025 15:12

Facts:

  • At least 15,000 children have been killed since the war began in October 2023.
  • Many have died in airstrikes, building collapses, or stampedes at aid sites.
  • Thousands more have been injured, often with life-altering wounds, burns, or amputations.
  • Gaza is facing famine-like conditions.
  • Children are eating grass, leaves, or going days without food.
  • Severe malnutrition is widespread, especially in northern Gaza. Babies and toddlers are dying of hunger-related causes.
  • Nearly all children in Gaza are now considered to have signs of acute psychological trauma:
  • Nightmares
  • Bedwetting
  • Non-responsiveness (shutdown/dissociation)
  • Panic at loud sounds
  • Many have lost one or both parents, siblings, or entire families.
  • Most hospitals have been bombed or shut down.
  • Children can’t access basic care, vaccines, or treatment for chronic illnesses.
  • Wounded kids are operated on without anesthesia in some cases.
  • Over 1 million children have been displaced—many multiple times.
  • Families sleep in tents, rubble, or outdoors with no clean water or toilets.
  • Nearly all schools have been shut down, destroyed, or turned into shelters.
  • Many teachers and schoolchildren have been killed.
  • A whole generation risks growing up with no access to education or safety.
  • Children are drinking dirty water, leading to diarrheal diseases and infections.
  • Outbreaks of hepatitis, lice, and scabies are widespread.
  • Even in declared “safe zones” or aid areas, children have been shot, suffocated in stampedes, or killed by nearby strikes.
  • Some have died while queuing for water or food.

“There is no safe place left for children in Gaza. They are being killed, starved, maimed, and psychologically shattered. This is not a humanitarian crisis—this is a crisis of humanity.”
— Save the Children, July 2025

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Twiglets1 · 21/07/2025 07:09

@Wedonttalkaboutboris I don’t care what you think about my opinions.

I don’t respect people who deliberately twist others words only to make them look bad. It is dishonest.

I did not mention “collateral damage” at all - let alone in regard to children dying. That is your words, not mine.

And you know full well that I said Hamas need to be replaced “one way or another as they are doing the Gazans no favours as rulers” so your attempt to link the phrase “one way or another” also to the deaths of children is equally dishonest.

I find it awful the way some people on here use the deaths of children to try to score points over other users. It doesn’t indicate genuine concern for the children.

MissyB1 · 21/07/2025 07:28

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 21/07/2025 06:12

What is our government doing?

Looking the other way. Shameful!

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 21/07/2025 07:48

@Twiglets1

You’re right that words matter- which is why I was so alarmed by the language you used. I didn’t twist anything: you wrote that Hamas need to be replaced “one way or another,” and in the same breath dismissed concerns about mass child deaths as if they’re an unfortunate inevitability rather than a direct result of military policy.

I speak about these children because I am genuinely concerned and I don’t think naming what’s happening to them is “scoring points.” What I find awful is that people keep bringing the conversation back to defending states or reputations, instead of focusing on how to stop babies from starving to death.

You’ve repeatedly blamed the targeted murder of children and civilians by Israel on the actions of Hamas to try to justify the systematic targeting of civilian buildings. Despite the swathes of evidence that the IDF are purposely killing and wounding civilians and the international legal consensus that indiscriminate bombing of civilian infrastructure is unlawful. You have reframed the mass killing of children as “not murder”. “Maybe they want to be martyrs or want their people to be martyrs…” This crosses into dehumanising rhetoric, painting an entire people as irrationally self-destructive, which feeds anti-Palestinian bigotry.

This is dangerous rhetoric and spreads harmful misinformation during a humanitarian crisis.

You certainly haven’t shown any genuine concern for any of the hundreds of thousands of children brutally murdered. I strongly urge you to do some of your own research- not just political analysis, but to actually look at the names, the faces, and the stories of even a fraction of the children who’ve died.

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Twiglets1 · 21/07/2025 08:15

Yes you did twist my words and no I don't dismiss child deaths.

My exact words (to Everexpanding) were that children are "innocent victims of the war" and "I don't agree with Israel withholding humanitarian aid".

To you I said that "I call the death of thousands of children in Gaza a massive tragedy but not murder because the children weren't being targeted by the IDF".

Just because I call them "killed in the war" and you call them "murdered" does not automatically mean that you care about the deaths more than me. They are still dead babies and children and I have said many times that I wish nothing more than a ceasefire so that the killing would stop.

But I see you are a person not worth engaging with as there is nothing I can say that will make you see me as anyone other than someone who hasn't shown any genuine concern for children killed in the war. You are demonising me for your own reasons rather than listening to what I am actually saying about "innocent victims" and "a massive tragedy".

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 21/07/2025 08:57

Twiglets1 · 21/07/2025 08:15

Yes you did twist my words and no I don't dismiss child deaths.

My exact words (to Everexpanding) were that children are "innocent victims of the war" and "I don't agree with Israel withholding humanitarian aid".

To you I said that "I call the death of thousands of children in Gaza a massive tragedy but not murder because the children weren't being targeted by the IDF".

Just because I call them "killed in the war" and you call them "murdered" does not automatically mean that you care about the deaths more than me. They are still dead babies and children and I have said many times that I wish nothing more than a ceasefire so that the killing would stop.

But I see you are a person not worth engaging with as there is nothing I can say that will make you see me as anyone other than someone who hasn't shown any genuine concern for children killed in the war. You are demonising me for your own reasons rather than listening to what I am actually saying about "innocent victims" and "a massive tragedy".

But they were targeted by the IDF!

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Wedonttalkaboutboris · 21/07/2025 09:04

Twiglets1 · 21/07/2025 08:15

Yes you did twist my words and no I don't dismiss child deaths.

My exact words (to Everexpanding) were that children are "innocent victims of the war" and "I don't agree with Israel withholding humanitarian aid".

To you I said that "I call the death of thousands of children in Gaza a massive tragedy but not murder because the children weren't being targeted by the IDF".

Just because I call them "killed in the war" and you call them "murdered" does not automatically mean that you care about the deaths more than me. They are still dead babies and children and I have said many times that I wish nothing more than a ceasefire so that the killing would stop.

But I see you are a person not worth engaging with as there is nothing I can say that will make you see me as anyone other than someone who hasn't shown any genuine concern for children killed in the war. You are demonising me for your own reasons rather than listening to what I am actually saying about "innocent victims" and "a massive tragedy".

I also think that calling children ‘innocent victims of war’ implies they are just collateral damage, which doesn’t reflect the reality. This isn’t a balanced war anymore; it’s a one-sided assault with devastating consequences for civilians. It’s important to state clearly: children have been targeted by the IDF. Multiple credible reports document strikes on civilian areas- including homes, schools, and aid sites where children were present. This goes beyond the tragic ‘victims of war’ trope and raises serious questions about intent and accountability.

I’m not demonising you personally- I want us all to genuinely care about these children and actually try to do something rather than argue over semantics. That means recognising the full scale of this!

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Twiglets1 · 21/07/2025 09:58

Wedonttalkaboutboris · 21/07/2025 08:57

But they were targeted by the IDF!

I don’t believe children are deliberately targeted by the IDF. I appreciate that some people do think that and they are entitled to their opinion but I don’t share that opinion. I believe the IDF are hitting civilian areas because Hamas are hiding there & if Hamas didn’t have a strategy of hiding amongst civilians then the IDF would not be hitting those areas.

And it’s a strange interpretation that “innocent victims of the war” implies “collateral damage” - they have completely different meanings. Like I said before you seem determined to demonise me just because I disagree with you. You can deny it but everyone can see the way you have twisted my words to suggest a worse meaning than what I actually said.

Beachtastic · 21/07/2025 10:04

I also think that describing it as "a one-sided assault with devastating consequences for civilians" is a somewhat one-sided oversimplification of the situation Israel finds itself in.

Thelmaandloulou · 21/07/2025 10:08

Rest in peace little angels 🕊

The Israeli government should be thoroughly, thoroughly ashamed of themselves. The murder of thousands of innocent children by a democratic government and ally is a stain on our collective humanity.

Thelmaandloulou · 21/07/2025 10:09

It is both disturbing and upsetting to see posters attemt to justify the murder of innocents. How anyone can still defend the IDF is beyond me.

smallglassbottle · 21/07/2025 12:06

Twiglets1 · 21/07/2025 09:58

I don’t believe children are deliberately targeted by the IDF. I appreciate that some people do think that and they are entitled to their opinion but I don’t share that opinion. I believe the IDF are hitting civilian areas because Hamas are hiding there & if Hamas didn’t have a strategy of hiding amongst civilians then the IDF would not be hitting those areas.

And it’s a strange interpretation that “innocent victims of the war” implies “collateral damage” - they have completely different meanings. Like I said before you seem determined to demonise me just because I disagree with you. You can deny it but everyone can see the way you have twisted my words to suggest a worse meaning than what I actually said.

The IDF use them as target practice whilst they're queuing for water! Children. They're deliberately targeting children queuing for aid.

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-06-27/ty-article-magazine/.premium/idf-soldiers-ordered-to-shoot-deliberately-at-unarmed-gazans-waiting-for-humanitarian-aid/00000197-ad8e-de01-a39f-ffbe33780000

https://www.lbc.co.uk/world-news/war-crimes-israeli-soldiers-palestinians-aid/

IDF soldiers ordered to shoot deliberately at unarmed Gazans waiting for humanitarian aid

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https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-06-27/ty-article-magazine/.premium/idf-soldiers-ordered-to-shoot-deliberately-at-unarmed-gazans-waiting-for-humanitarian-aid/00000197-ad8e-de01-a39f-ffbe33780000

businessflop25 · 21/07/2025 12:36

@Twiglets1its not opinion that the IDF MURDERED children. It’s FACT. Do some bloody research before spreading more misinformation!

There have been numerous incidents of IDF soldiers shooting CHILDREN at little more than point blank range. There are videos out there if you choose to watch them. A simple google search will find them.

What do you call shooting an unarmed young CHILD at point blank range if not MURDER?

Anonimummy · 21/07/2025 12:43

Thank god for X to see the truth behind the lies.

smallglassbottle · 21/07/2025 12:56

Anonimummy · 21/07/2025 12:43

Thank god for X to see the truth behind the lies.

Seriously?

That well known dissemination of rubbish and propaganda site?

BelleHathor · 21/07/2025 13:04

It's inexcusable actions like bombing a kindergarten this morning, unforgivable.

https://x.com/RamAbdu/status/1947201836768731596

"Breaking: Israel bombed a building housing the Modern Al-Jinan Kindergarten in central Gaza City. Most of the casualties are children from the kindergarten."

https://x.com/RamAbdu/status/1947201836768731596

Martymcfly24 · 21/07/2025 13:04

smallglassbottle · 21/07/2025 12:56

Seriously?

That well known dissemination of rubbish and propaganda site?

You mean you don't believe
-an IDF solider
-the organization that is currently fucking up the aid distribution
-An unit within the Israeli Ministry of Defense
-and some randomer whose already had one account suspended.

Shocking

Anonimummy · 21/07/2025 13:05

smallglassbottle · 21/07/2025 12:56

Seriously?

That well known dissemination of rubbish and propaganda site?

Videos speak for themselves hun.

Have you got any videos of the IDF deliberately targeting children?

I have often thought that that there will be major studies in future in how apparently normal, decent, people were so taken in by such obvious lies by an monstrous terrorist movement due to their ingrained hatred of a tiny section of the human population.

It fascinates me tbh.

Martymcfly24 · 21/07/2025 13:05

Anonimummy · 21/07/2025 13:05

Videos speak for themselves hun.

Have you got any videos of the IDF deliberately targeting children?

I have often thought that that there will be major studies in future in how apparently normal, decent, people were so taken in by such obvious lies by an monstrous terrorist movement due to their ingrained hatred of a tiny section of the human population.

It fascinates me tbh.

Oh the irony.

Anonimummy · 21/07/2025 13:08

BelleHathor · 21/07/2025 13:04

It's inexcusable actions like bombing a kindergarten this morning, unforgivable.

https://x.com/RamAbdu/status/1947201836768731596

"Breaking: Israel bombed a building housing the Modern Al-Jinan Kindergarten in central Gaza City. Most of the casualties are children from the kindergarten."

Pallywood at it’s finest.

Where’s the damage from the bomb?

Thought there was no education in Gaza?

smallglassbottle · 21/07/2025 13:09

Martymcfly24 · 21/07/2025 13:04

You mean you don't believe
-an IDF solider
-the organization that is currently fucking up the aid distribution
-An unit within the Israeli Ministry of Defense
-and some randomer whose already had one account suspended.

Shocking

Well, I do have some niggling doubts 🤔

Martymcfly24 · 21/07/2025 13:11

smallglassbottle · 21/07/2025 13:09

Well, I do have some niggling doubts 🤔

I cant possibly understand why....

smallglassbottle · 21/07/2025 13:12

Anonimummy · 21/07/2025 13:05

Videos speak for themselves hun.

Have you got any videos of the IDF deliberately targeting children?

I have often thought that that there will be major studies in future in how apparently normal, decent, people were so taken in by such obvious lies by an monstrous terrorist movement due to their ingrained hatred of a tiny section of the human population.

It fascinates me tbh.

🤦🏼‍♀️

Anonimummy · 21/07/2025 13:30

smallglassbottle · 21/07/2025 13:09

Well, I do have some niggling doubts 🤔

As I said where’s the videos of the IDF deliberately targeting civilians and sniping kids?

You blindly believe accusations from one side with no evidence but dismiss actual evidence from the other side.

That makes a lot of sense.