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27 children have been murdered by the IOF every day for 650 days in Gaza (UNICEF)

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Wedonttalkaboutboris · 19/07/2025 15:12

Facts:

  • At least 15,000 children have been killed since the war began in October 2023.
  • Many have died in airstrikes, building collapses, or stampedes at aid sites.
  • Thousands more have been injured, often with life-altering wounds, burns, or amputations.
  • Gaza is facing famine-like conditions.
  • Children are eating grass, leaves, or going days without food.
  • Severe malnutrition is widespread, especially in northern Gaza. Babies and toddlers are dying of hunger-related causes.
  • Nearly all children in Gaza are now considered to have signs of acute psychological trauma:
  • Nightmares
  • Bedwetting
  • Non-responsiveness (shutdown/dissociation)
  • Panic at loud sounds
  • Many have lost one or both parents, siblings, or entire families.
  • Most hospitals have been bombed or shut down.
  • Children can’t access basic care, vaccines, or treatment for chronic illnesses.
  • Wounded kids are operated on without anesthesia in some cases.
  • Over 1 million children have been displaced—many multiple times.
  • Families sleep in tents, rubble, or outdoors with no clean water or toilets.
  • Nearly all schools have been shut down, destroyed, or turned into shelters.
  • Many teachers and schoolchildren have been killed.
  • A whole generation risks growing up with no access to education or safety.
  • Children are drinking dirty water, leading to diarrheal diseases and infections.
  • Outbreaks of hepatitis, lice, and scabies are widespread.
  • Even in declared “safe zones” or aid areas, children have been shot, suffocated in stampedes, or killed by nearby strikes.
  • Some have died while queuing for water or food.

“There is no safe place left for children in Gaza. They are being killed, starved, maimed, and psychologically shattered. This is not a humanitarian crisis—this is a crisis of humanity.”
— Save the Children, July 2025

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Anonimummy · 21/07/2025 14:00

Martymcfly24 · 21/07/2025 13:04

You mean you don't believe
-an IDF solider
-the organization that is currently fucking up the aid distribution
-An unit within the Israeli Ministry of Defense
-and some randomer whose already had one account suspended.

Shocking

Ah OK, here’s the report without going through the randomer’s account. Do you know why it was suspended? They are quite open about it.

https://ngo-monitor.org/reports/eu-funding-2024/

COGAT is actually responsible for coordinating and facilitating humanitarian initiatives in cooperation with the international community so not just ‘a Unit within the Israeli MOD’.

Facts matter no matter how much you want to twist them.

Lawfare and Libel: EU Provides Millions More to Israeli Political Advocacy NGOs

Newly released data on European Union websites reveal 14 grants totaling €7.2 million authorized by the European Commission in 2024 for projects involving highly politicized Israeli NGOs.

https://ngo-monitor.org/reports/eu-funding-2024/

YourOnMute · 21/07/2025 14:30

Anonimummy · 21/07/2025 13:08

Pallywood at it’s finest.

Where’s the damage from the bomb?

Thought there was no education in Gaza?

Edited

What's Pallywood?

mouthpipette · 21/07/2025 14:38

Beachtastic · 21/07/2025 10:04

I also think that describing it as "a one-sided assault with devastating consequences for civilians" is a somewhat one-sided oversimplification of the situation Israel finds itself in.

Of course it's a "one sided assault ".

For heaven's sake, just look at the firepower on each side.

It's not even a "war". It's just turned into a vicious and vengeful retaliation, designed to maintain Netanyahu's popularity so that he can cling onto power for that little bit longer.
It's obvious to anyone that this is not the way to get the hostages back alive, neither is it a way that will eliminate Hamas.

But we in the UK will let him get on with it, because he's essentially a western ally.

Twiglets1 · 21/07/2025 14:43

mouthpipette · 21/07/2025 14:38

Of course it's a "one sided assault ".

For heaven's sake, just look at the firepower on each side.

It's not even a "war". It's just turned into a vicious and vengeful retaliation, designed to maintain Netanyahu's popularity so that he can cling onto power for that little bit longer.
It's obvious to anyone that this is not the way to get the hostages back alive, neither is it a way that will eliminate Hamas.

But we in the UK will let him get on with it, because he's essentially a western ally.

If it’s not even a war anymore then why don’t Hamas surrender?

They must consider it’s still a war.

They are making gains with propaganda if nothing else. They must consider it worth continuing?

smallglassbottle · 21/07/2025 15:24

Surrender? And face torture and execution?

All these deaths are nothing more than propaganda? They're not happening? Is that it? Shame on you. These are human lives regardless of what you think of them. They're not animals to be exterminated. The world is watching. Netanyahu isn't doing his country any favours. Nobody will ever forget this.

Twiglets1 · 21/07/2025 16:03

Yes @smallglassbottle Hamas should think about the people of Gaza and surrender. There is no good ending for them but surrendering could save many civilian lives.

I did not say all the deaths are nothing more than propaganda or aren’t happening. I said “they are making gains with propaganda” which is easy enough to understand.

Martymcfly24 · 21/07/2025 16:19

Anonimummy · 21/07/2025 14:00

Ah OK, here’s the report without going through the randomer’s account. Do you know why it was suspended? They are quite open about it.

https://ngo-monitor.org/reports/eu-funding-2024/

COGAT is actually responsible for coordinating and facilitating humanitarian initiatives in cooperation with the international community so not just ‘a Unit within the Israeli MOD’.

Facts matter no matter how much you want to twist them.

https://www.breakingthesilence.org.il/inside/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/Military_rule_testimony_booklet.pdf

Really interesting document from ex COGAT soldiers about exposing their government's practices used to enforce control over Palestinians.

Gives a really good insight into the control Israel has always exerted over every aspect of Palestinian life .

While putting together the project, Breaking the Silence’s interviewers found that repeated themes began to emerge: the use of collective punishment, such as revoking an entire family’s travel permits; the extensive network of Palestinian agents cooperating with COGAT’s Civil Administration, which governs parts of the West Bank; the considerable influence of Israel’s illegal settler movement on the Civil Administration’s decision-making processes; and arbitrary or baseless blocks on goods allowed in and out of Gaza.”

Thelmaandloulou · 21/07/2025 16:20

Even the King of Belgium just called out the Israeli government and their brutal assault 'a stain on humanity'. This is coming from someone who doesn't normally get involved.

Everexpanding · 21/07/2025 16:24

Doctor describing Israeli drones targetting injured children

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 21/07/2025 16:25

😢

YourOnMute · 21/07/2025 16:27

What civilian would want to surrender to an occupying force that has:

  • Continually bombed where they lived
  • Shot people
  • Allowed in no aid since March or medical supplies
  • Shot people queuing for the food that a ghastly, unimaginable humanitarian organisation doles out ineffectively
  • Gassed people and killed children with tear gas in the same place
  • Gives aid and money to an ISIS group
  • Destroyed Internet cables, electricity generation and clean water infrastructure
  • bombed hospitals, schools, churches and mosques
  • destroys hospital equipment
  • bombs tents
  • shoots donkeys transporting food and people
  • bombs water trucks and food kitchens
  • whose leaders have used the language of genocide speaking about you
  • takes baby powder from international doctors so they can't bring it into Gaza?

I'd prefer to starve.

smallglassbottle · 21/07/2025 16:30

Twiglets1 · 21/07/2025 16:03

Yes @smallglassbottle Hamas should think about the people of Gaza and surrender. There is no good ending for them but surrendering could save many civilian lives.

I did not say all the deaths are nothing more than propaganda or aren’t happening. I said “they are making gains with propaganda” which is easy enough to understand.

Describe to me how they're making gains with propaganda please.

EasyTouch · 21/07/2025 16:48

Thelmaandloulou · 21/07/2025 16:20

Even the King of Belgium just called out the Israeli government and their brutal assault 'a stain on humanity'. This is coming from someone who doesn't normally get involved.

To be fair, he has his own family linen to bleach and wash in Africa.
He's a raging hypocrite who should have stuck to not getting involved.

Beachtastic · 21/07/2025 16:50

smallglassbottle · 21/07/2025 16:30

Describe to me how they're making gains with propaganda please.

By flooding the social media accounts of well-meaning Westerners with a never-ending stream of horrific images, unlike Israel who have drawn a discreet veil over the revolting atrocities of 7 October (out of respect for the dead and their loved ones, and to avoid compromising investigations).

By ensuring that Hamas combatants are entirely indistinguishable from civilians, and maximising civilian deaths/casualties in their choice of tactics (tunnels, siting of command centres). Then declaring all deaths to be “innocent” – not one Hamas fighter among all those dead? Really?

By notifying the Met Police, as the events of 7 October were taking place, that a demo would be held in central London the following weekend. This went ahead and resulted in several arrests, but immediately established the narrative in people’s minds that this was not a terror attack but a perfectly justified response to oppression.

MN shows how well it’s all working.

EasyTouch · 21/07/2025 17:13

smallglassbottle · 21/07/2025 15:24

Surrender? And face torture and execution?

All these deaths are nothing more than propaganda? They're not happening? Is that it? Shame on you. These are human lives regardless of what you think of them. They're not animals to be exterminated. The world is watching. Netanyahu isn't doing his country any favours. Nobody will ever forget this.

If you loved your people and you deliberately put them in wholesale mortal danger by invading a sovereign nation and killing their inhabitants, manifesting something that took two years of planning..
Would you not surrender and take the risk of being tortured and imprisoned so as to avoid accountability and instead accrue martyr status in the eyes of pro Palestinians / anti Israelis/ anti Semites/ Islamists/ Western Leftists/ " Anti non Islamic colonialists" of all anti Western persuasions/ Queers for Palestine/Western Feminists who ignore Israeli female Islamic subjugation, etc?
It's a propaganda win-win which would provide years long self fiddling material for those who think that Israel can do no right.
This war ends and Israel looks like the wrong uns and it is conveniently continued to be forgotten that Hamas and complicit Gazan civilians started THIS specific war and that being on the losing side now does not mean being a loser, but means suffering genocide.

There's enough cake and eating it for Hamas as to not warrant food or other aid for Gazan for another fifty years.
Just like all the other post 1947 wars involving Israel that were started against Israel, but which Israel have, by anti something magic, have "ended up " being seen as the instigators because she had the gall, brass neck and nerve not to lose.

Shit, if I was remaining Hamas, I'd offer up my neck on any Imperialist, colonialist, ethno state facilitating , apartheid enabling, child murdering chopping block with those odds!

And I'd be getting seven virgins in Paradise, too!

Thelmaandloulou · 21/07/2025 17:30

EasyTouch · 21/07/2025 16:48

To be fair, he has his own family linen to bleach and wash in Africa.
He's a raging hypocrite who should have stuck to not getting involved.

I applaud him for and everyone else speaking out against the genocide.

YourOnMute · 21/07/2025 17:39

Who are the complicit civilians in Gaza please?
And once again, it's more than well meaning Westeners hortified by the ongoing atrocities in Gaza. It's people globally. (Although it makes a change from white middleclass women and elderly women i guess).

Beachtastic · 21/07/2025 17:44

YourOnMute · 21/07/2025 17:39

Who are the complicit civilians in Gaza please?
And once again, it's more than well meaning Westeners hortified by the ongoing atrocities in Gaza. It's people globally. (Although it makes a change from white middleclass women and elderly women i guess).

Well, no one can tell - that's the point. Hamas do not dress as combatants. But sadly it is worth noting that Gazan civilian mobs enthusiastically participated in the orgy of sadism on 7 October, as well as in the jubilant celebrations that followed.

Anonimummy · 21/07/2025 17:45

Everexpanding · 21/07/2025 16:22

And?

He is repeating what he was told as to how the injuries occurred.

He did not witness how they occurred.

Whether they were from Hamas, PIJ etc or the IDF.

There are obviously going to be civilian casualties in a WAR sadly but this is not a normal war due to the government of Gaza, Hamas, MO of using them as human shields.

Please direct me to any of the many videos there must be of the IDF causing these injuries.

Do they have invisibility cloaks I wonder?

businessflop25 · 21/07/2025 17:54

@EasyTouchyou are looking at this from the privileged position of having grown up in freedom and safety. These people haven’t had that chance. They are damaged broken individuals who are the product of the conditions they have been born to.
How do you grow up a well rounded human being with the ability to empathise when you’re born into what has fundamentally been a prison camp? How do you understand how to love when your family are continually imprisoned, killed or just disappear? Hamas is the product of what the west and Israel have done. And all that is happening just now is more on repeat. Because you can be damned sure that even if you obliterate Hamas now, in 10 -20 years from now another group will spring up probably named something different but born out of the same conditions and trauma.

Your expectations of them to be able to empathise or see things from any side other than their own is illogical. They can’t and won’t. The only way to change things is to give these people something to believe in and confidence that they will not be disappointed. But expecting Hamas to lay down their lives for others is just simply not going to happen

Anonimummy · 21/07/2025 17:55

Beachtastic · 21/07/2025 17:44

Well, no one can tell - that's the point. Hamas do not dress as combatants. But sadly it is worth noting that Gazan civilian mobs enthusiastically participated in the orgy of sadism on 7 October, as well as in the jubilant celebrations that followed.

Exactly, that is a deliberate ploy as well so it’s impossible to determine who is a combatant. This is why Israel has had to deploy so much surveillance tech in Gaza.

In addition:

Hostages were held in civilian homes.

Civilians brought their children to see the despicable and extremely disturbing spectacle of the coffins of dead hostages (murdered in captivity) which were two babies, their mother and an elderly man, being paraded to celebratory music and movie ad type posters.

No Gazan seems to have shared intelligence with the IDF to lead them to the remaining hostages despite a $5 million reward with safe passage out of Gaza.

Beachtastic · 21/07/2025 18:01

businessflop25 · 21/07/2025 17:54

@EasyTouchyou are looking at this from the privileged position of having grown up in freedom and safety. These people haven’t had that chance. They are damaged broken individuals who are the product of the conditions they have been born to.
How do you grow up a well rounded human being with the ability to empathise when you’re born into what has fundamentally been a prison camp? How do you understand how to love when your family are continually imprisoned, killed or just disappear? Hamas is the product of what the west and Israel have done. And all that is happening just now is more on repeat. Because you can be damned sure that even if you obliterate Hamas now, in 10 -20 years from now another group will spring up probably named something different but born out of the same conditions and trauma.

Your expectations of them to be able to empathise or see things from any side other than their own is illogical. They can’t and won’t. The only way to change things is to give these people something to believe in and confidence that they will not be disappointed. But expecting Hamas to lay down their lives for others is just simply not going to happen

It's hard to grow up as a well-rounded person when you have been indoctrinated since birth to view Jews as a stain on your land and the reward for disposing them is instant social status, as well as financial incentives and the promise of Paradise. That probably explains Mahmoud's excitement calling his parents to brag about having killed 10 Jews with his bare hands, as well as his parent's ecstatic reception of this news (rather than, say, "WTF have you done"). It might also explain the scalpings and other mementos taken from the 7 October attacks, and the pride with which the mob displayed Shani Louk's mangled corpse for the crowds to spit on.

"Hamas is the product of what the west and Israel have done" is exactly what Hamas wants you to believe, and because their entire raison d'être is so utterly alien to the Western mindset, it seems to make sense in our view. Unfortunately the reality is somewhat more brutal.

Anonimummy · 21/07/2025 18:08

businessflop25 · 21/07/2025 17:54

@EasyTouchyou are looking at this from the privileged position of having grown up in freedom and safety. These people haven’t had that chance. They are damaged broken individuals who are the product of the conditions they have been born to.
How do you grow up a well rounded human being with the ability to empathise when you’re born into what has fundamentally been a prison camp? How do you understand how to love when your family are continually imprisoned, killed or just disappear? Hamas is the product of what the west and Israel have done. And all that is happening just now is more on repeat. Because you can be damned sure that even if you obliterate Hamas now, in 10 -20 years from now another group will spring up probably named something different but born out of the same conditions and trauma.

Your expectations of them to be able to empathise or see things from any side other than their own is illogical. They can’t and won’t. The only way to change things is to give these people something to believe in and confidence that they will not be disappointed. But expecting Hamas to lay down their lives for others is just simply not going to happen

What a load of nonsense.

Hamas is the product of the Muslim Brotherhood who believe in a global Islamic caliphate and was established as a violent alternative when the PLO entered into peace deals with Israel.

They want to kill Jews and annihilate Israel quite simply.

Says a lot that they were voted in, AFTER Palestinians had self determination in Gaza, doesn’t it.

Of course Hamas would not consciously lay down their lives for their people, like normal soldiers in war, like the IDF do. They are hiding behind every civilian man, woman child so they lay down their lives instead.

Everexpanding · 21/07/2025 18:26

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