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Conflict in the Middle East

At long last the police are cracking down on hard marches

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mids2019 · 13/07/2025 05:21

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq6mjg13dz6o

I think it's great that the police are starting to take supporting terrorists seriously and are now using anti terror legislation to start making the arrests that should have happened some time ago. As predicted as the Gaza conflict has ground on there are more and more pro Palestine looks prepared to flirt with proscribed groups.

Maybe some halal time or fines will make these people think a bit more.

A number of police officers on a road with some members of the public taking photos and filming. The police appear to be carrying a person although only their foot can be seen in the image.

More than 70 arrests at Palestine Action ban protests

The protests - and the arrests - come after the pro-Palestinian group was proscribed as a terror organisation.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq6mjg13dz6o

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anothercortisolqueen · 14/07/2025 15:21

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 13/07/2025 06:53

Absolutely nobody with any critical thinking capacity believes PA comes anywhere close to being what is typically considered a "terrorist" organisation.

This is purely and simply an exercise in the UK government abusing the law to silence and repress people drawing attention to it's complicity in a genocide. State censorship, repression, and abuse of power. Straight out of the despot handbook.

If "British values" mean taking a stand against terrorism, then we ought to have cut relations with Israel years ago and should be seeking to put members of Likud and the IDF up for trial in the Hague, instead of arresting 80'odd year old vicars and grandads for holding placards. Understandably the police look utterly mortified at having to participate in this complete nonsense.

If that is what constitutes "British values" then I'm glad I don't identify as British.

Absolutely This - it’s a joke that PA have been classified as a terrorist group. We should hang our heads in shame for all the atrocities that white imperialist males have committed. I’m ashamed to be white these days, utterly ashamed!!

Stirabout · 14/07/2025 15:30

Memely · 14/07/2025 15:09

True, but as one side has been adamant for the past 80 years that they won't make peace, there's not much hope for the future.

Furthermore, there should never have been any need for peaceful negotiation to begin with. There was no justification for the Arabs in 1948 opposing a Jewish state (although there could have been negotiations on the exact borders). The war they started then, and have kept up all the years, is entirely on them, as are all consequences ever since.

Hamas currently agree to a two state solution and were moving forward with the last ceasefire agreement. The only way to peace in through negotiation. SharonEllis noted on a thread ( not sure which one) this isn’t about the past….so. Ok. Let’s move forward to a better future and talk.

Stirabout · 14/07/2025 15:32

anothercortisolqueen · 14/07/2025 15:21

Absolutely This - it’s a joke that PA have been classified as a terrorist group. We should hang our heads in shame for all the atrocities that white imperialist males have committed. I’m ashamed to be white these days, utterly ashamed!!

The PM is trying to shut out the voice of the people in peaceful demonstration against a genocide . We live in a democracy …. Or at least I thought we did. Shame on Starmer

Stirabout · 14/07/2025 15:35

Stirabout · 14/07/2025 12:46

The only long term solution is peaceful negotiation with both parties engaging and sticking to agreements made.

How interesting that the only posters who have agreed with this post are the anti war and pro Palestinian posters.

Voxon · 14/07/2025 15:38

anothercortisolqueen · 14/07/2025 15:21

Absolutely This - it’s a joke that PA have been classified as a terrorist group. We should hang our heads in shame for all the atrocities that white imperialist males have committed. I’m ashamed to be white these days, utterly ashamed!!

This is going to be tough to believe, but people who aren't white have done and are doing very evil things. A lot of white people work very hard to help a lot of the most persecuted, opressed and terrorised people and it's a great shame you see good and evil through a lens of race.

quantumbutterfly · 14/07/2025 15:40

anothercortisolqueen · 14/07/2025 15:21

Absolutely This - it’s a joke that PA have been classified as a terrorist group. We should hang our heads in shame for all the atrocities that white imperialist males have committed. I’m ashamed to be white these days, utterly ashamed!!

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Inspirationandhelpneeded · 14/07/2025 15:50

anothercortisolqueen · 14/07/2025 15:21

Absolutely This - it’s a joke that PA have been classified as a terrorist group. We should hang our heads in shame for all the atrocities that white imperialist males have committed. I’m ashamed to be white these days, utterly ashamed!!

Palestine action group are the group that broke into a UK military base and caused millions of pounds worth of damage.

"The proscription of those three organisations will reaffirm the UK’s zero-tolerance approach to terrorism, regardless of its form or underlying ideology.

It may be helpful to set out some background to the proscription power. To proscribe an organisation, the Home Secretary must reasonably believe that it is concerned in terrorism. That means that the organisation commits or participates in terrorism, it prepares for terrorism, it promotes or encourages terrorism, or it is otherwise concerned in terrorism. Some 80 terrorist organisations are currently proscribed under the Terrorism Act 2000.

Proscription is, rightly, ideologically neutral: it judges an organisation on its actions and the actions it is willing to deploy in pursuit of its cause. The UK’s definition of terrorism was established in law a quarter of a century ago, and it has stood the test of time and extensive scrutiny since."

Note - there were 3 organisations proscribed - nobody appears to care about the others though.

"Focus on National Security:
The government's decision to proscribe the group appears to be largely driven by concerns about the serious damage to property, particularly that related to national security, rather than solely focusing on violence against individuals."

Property involved in defence of the nation is actually fairly important. I can see why a country might want to stop that. Not sure why others struggle to see it is important for a country to have it's defence ready and able to go if needed.

Inspirationandhelpneeded · 14/07/2025 15:55

Voxon · 14/07/2025 15:38

This is going to be tough to believe, but people who aren't white have done and are doing very evil things. A lot of white people work very hard to help a lot of the most persecuted, opressed and terrorised people and it's a great shame you see good and evil through a lens of race.

Come on, some people believe that only white people do harm. Some people hate the West and it's freedoms so much they'd love to tear it down.

It's a race to the bottom, we all should live without democracy and freedom, women and gay people should not be equal. We should be ashamed of everything that was ever done in the past, after all because some people did it we should all be ashamed, always and forever. We must hate ourselves and the west. I wish they would just self flagellate and leave the rest of us alone. Cheer on the 'resistance' so they can wipe out a country because it's supported by the West. Fortunately, we are not all so dim. Hamas, Hezbollah and others must love these self haters.

Stirabout · 14/07/2025 15:57

Heres the definition from wiki

At long last the police are cracking down on hard marches
quantumbutterfly · 14/07/2025 16:20

Inspirationandhelpneeded · 14/07/2025 15:55

Come on, some people believe that only white people do harm. Some people hate the West and it's freedoms so much they'd love to tear it down.

It's a race to the bottom, we all should live without democracy and freedom, women and gay people should not be equal. We should be ashamed of everything that was ever done in the past, after all because some people did it we should all be ashamed, always and forever. We must hate ourselves and the west. I wish they would just self flagellate and leave the rest of us alone. Cheer on the 'resistance' so they can wipe out a country because it's supported by the West. Fortunately, we are not all so dim. Hamas, Hezbollah and others must love these self haters.

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I wondered when self flagellation became a competitive sport. Would there be a podium? Or would that be too self congratulatory? Oh the cognitive dissonance.

EasternStandard · 14/07/2025 16:23

Inspirationandhelpneeded · 14/07/2025 15:55

Come on, some people believe that only white people do harm. Some people hate the West and it's freedoms so much they'd love to tear it down.

It's a race to the bottom, we all should live without democracy and freedom, women and gay people should not be equal. We should be ashamed of everything that was ever done in the past, after all because some people did it we should all be ashamed, always and forever. We must hate ourselves and the west. I wish they would just self flagellate and leave the rest of us alone. Cheer on the 'resistance' so they can wipe out a country because it's supported by the West. Fortunately, we are not all so dim. Hamas, Hezbollah and others must love these self haters.

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Agree and same.

Inspirationandhelpneeded · 14/07/2025 16:35

quantumbutterfly · 14/07/2025 16:20

I wondered when self flagellation became a competitive sport. Would there be a podium? Or would that be too self congratulatory? Oh the cognitive dissonance.

The need for a laughing emoji is great.

I wish they'd all go off to a self flagellation corner. Gold medal winners.

TellMeAgainPlease · 14/07/2025 17:22

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DwarfBeans · 14/07/2025 19:02

Thank goodness there are posters on here who can see this nonsense for what it is. Self flagellation awards indeed!

If Iran has been funding the pro Hamas protests in the US, is it a stretch to wonder who are funding Palestine Action in the UK?

Twiglets1 · 14/07/2025 19:30

I know the self flagellation stuff is funny in a way.

But it’s also quite sad. Imagine being ashamed by the colour of your skin. Ashamed to be white is just as bad as if someone said they are ashamed of any other colour skin.

I can’t imagine that level of self hatred & I wouldn’t wish it on anyone.

Anonimummy · 14/07/2025 19:35

Twiglets1 · 14/07/2025 19:30

I know the self flagellation stuff is funny in a way.

But it’s also quite sad. Imagine being ashamed by the colour of your skin. Ashamed to be white is just as bad as if someone said they are ashamed of any other colour skin.

I can’t imagine that level of self hatred & I wouldn’t wish it on anyone.

Suicidal empathy is also a thing amongst these people as well.

Not in my name though thanks.

TBH I think psychiatrists will come up with some interesting studies from the pro-Palestinian cause in the West in the future.

EasternStandard · 15/07/2025 09:25

Twiglets1 · 14/07/2025 19:30

I know the self flagellation stuff is funny in a way.

But it’s also quite sad. Imagine being ashamed by the colour of your skin. Ashamed to be white is just as bad as if someone said they are ashamed of any other colour skin.

I can’t imagine that level of self hatred & I wouldn’t wish it on anyone.

It’s also quite concerning.

quantumbutterfly · 15/07/2025 09:35

EasternStandard · 15/07/2025 09:25

It’s also quite concerning.

It's bonkers, like a runaway train travelling straight through humility and terminating at self loathing. (Which we've decided here is somewhere on the Sussex coast near Worthing)

Inspirationandhelpneeded · 15/07/2025 10:33

quantumbutterfly · 15/07/2025 09:35

It's bonkers, like a runaway train travelling straight through humility and terminating at self loathing. (Which we've decided here is somewhere on the Sussex coast near Worthing)

😂

Maybe they will wake up one day. Everything is not the fault of the West or The British. Do none of these countries or the people in them ever deserve any condemnation - nope to the idiots it's the fault of the West/UK/US.

What they are also saying is that people in these countries are to be saved by good people in the West, they virtue signal, they flag wave and they self flagellate. They rarely appear to bother to think in anything but black and white, right and wrong, very childlike and no nuance to anything or any situation. History shaped to fit their particular people as always the victims who cannot help the way they behave since the West made them do it.

Inspirationandhelpneeded · 15/07/2025 10:43

Anonimummy · 14/07/2025 19:35

Suicidal empathy is also a thing amongst these people as well.

Not in my name though thanks.

TBH I think psychiatrists will come up with some interesting studies from the pro-Palestinian cause in the West in the future.

The almost total obsession with Gaza above everything else that happens to anyone in the world. The willingness to assume that all victims of the conflict are women and children. There were approximately 35,000 Hamas operatives - all survived have they. The belief that everything Hamas say must be true. The repeating of the little ditties and chants like a cult chant. Houthis, Houthis make us proud being one particular one that was latched onto.

EasternStandard · 15/07/2025 11:25

quantumbutterfly · 15/07/2025 09:35

It's bonkers, like a runaway train travelling straight through humility and terminating at self loathing. (Which we've decided here is somewhere on the Sussex coast near Worthing)

People seem ready to throw what they have away, or even more than that. That’s the concerning part. Especially for women and girls.

Anonimummy · 15/07/2025 12:00

Inspirationandhelpneeded · 15/07/2025 10:43

The almost total obsession with Gaza above everything else that happens to anyone in the world. The willingness to assume that all victims of the conflict are women and children. There were approximately 35,000 Hamas operatives - all survived have they. The belief that everything Hamas say must be true. The repeating of the little ditties and chants like a cult chant. Houthis, Houthis make us proud being one particular one that was latched onto.

Also the drums, how any of them can stand listening to that annoying sound is beyond me!

Buying (do they buy them or are they given free) the flag of a territory that they’ve never been to and never will, and have no connection to aside from a shared hatred of Israel, to march with it proudly down the streets when they’d never ever consider flying their own country’s flag because they hate it as well.

DwarfBeans · 15/07/2025 17:15

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Dangermoo · 16/07/2025 06:53

anothercortisolqueen · 14/07/2025 15:21

Absolutely This - it’s a joke that PA have been classified as a terrorist group. We should hang our heads in shame for all the atrocities that white imperialist males have committed. I’m ashamed to be white these days, utterly ashamed!!

Oh dear.

Dangermoo · 16/07/2025 06:54

Anonimummy · 15/07/2025 12:00

Also the drums, how any of them can stand listening to that annoying sound is beyond me!

Buying (do they buy them or are they given free) the flag of a territory that they’ve never been to and never will, and have no connection to aside from a shared hatred of Israel, to march with it proudly down the streets when they’d never ever consider flying their own country’s flag because they hate it as well.

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