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Conflict in the Middle East

Israeli soldier openly talks about how the IDF kill innocent Palestinians

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Whatsinanamehey · 07/07/2025 10:00

This is one of the most shameful articles I have read regarding the IDF's war crimes in Gaza.

This soldier talks openly how they would shoot innocent Palestinians and how it was like the wild west. The commanders would act depending on how they felt that day. Whether to shoot innocent civilians or kidnap them. Some held the belief that there are no innocents in Gaza and acted accordingly and this belief and subsequent war crimes were not challenged.

It's a hard read but a must. Especially for those who insist the IDF are only fighting Hamas and innocents are just caught up. This article aswell as many others shows that innocents have always been targeted.

https://news.sky.com/story/israeli-soldier-describes-arbitrary-killing-of-civilians-in-gaza-13393422

Israeli soldier describes arbitrary killing of civilians in Gaza

Speaking in a rare on-camera interview with Sky News, the soldier said the criteria of opening fire on civilians shifted depending on the commander.

https://news.sky.com/story/israeli-soldier-describes-arbitrary-killing-of-civilians-in-gaza-13393422

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TinklySnail · 07/07/2025 16:54

BelleHathor · 07/07/2025 16:51

Great, does that mean we can also discount the history that certain people say that "God, granted that land"?

If you want to, but in doing so you need to look at the entire history of Judaism and not just when Islam took over.
Are you willing to do that?
Are you willing to admit that Israel accepted the land given to them and it was the Arabs who made it an issue?

Whatsinanamehey · 07/07/2025 17:08

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This is so tiresome and offensive. If someone points out IDF war crimes which IDF soldiers are confessing to, then it must be because they hate Jews?

Why can't you acknowledge IDF war crimes that IDF soldiers are admitting? What is stopping you from doing that?

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TinklySnail · 07/07/2025 17:14

Whatsinanamehey · 07/07/2025 17:08

This is so tiresome and offensive. If someone points out IDF war crimes which IDF soldiers are confessing to, then it must be because they hate Jews?

Why can't you acknowledge IDF war crimes that IDF soldiers are admitting? What is stopping you from doing that?

Offensive? Why do you find this offensive?
Why can’t you admit that if Hamas hadn’t carried out 7/10 atrocities then Gaza would be suffering so much

Whatsinanamehey · 07/07/2025 17:16

TinklySnail · 07/07/2025 17:14

Offensive? Why do you find this offensive?
Why can’t you admit that if Hamas hadn’t carried out 7/10 atrocities then Gaza would be suffering so much

I haven't denied Hamas atrocities. The only one denying atrocities here is you. This thread is about IDF soldiers admitting their war crimes. Again, why can't you even do the bare minimum of acknowledging it? What is stopping you?

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Martymcfly24 · 07/07/2025 17:19

TinklySnail · 07/07/2025 16:13

Another poster who is blind to Hamas 7/10 atrocities.
Why would the west want to help Gaza when a terrorist organisation runs it?
You think people would be on Israel’s side if they had initiated the 7/10 massacre?
Can’t you see that the continued excuses or denial about Hamas does not do anything for those that are currently suffering?

Oh I completely denounce Hamas and the actions of 7/10

Can't you see that the continued excuses or denial about the IDF and Israeli Government down nothing for those that are currently suffering?

Do you denounce their actions and most importantly the disgusting information provided in the OP?

TinklySnail · 07/07/2025 17:25

Whatsinanamehey · 07/07/2025 17:16

I haven't denied Hamas atrocities. The only one denying atrocities here is you. This thread is about IDF soldiers admitting their war crimes. Again, why can't you even do the bare minimum of acknowledging it? What is stopping you?

Well yes you have really, even if you feel you haven’t.
I know what the thread is about. I have watched the video.
War is unfair and one side will always ‘dehumanise’ the other.
Have you bothered to watch the video of Palestinians goading the IDF? Throwing stones and yelling them to shoot their kid?
No, I don’t suppose you have because you don’t want to see both sides.
You are so wrapped up in your own little world that you can’t see a different perspective.
So, do you think that Hamas committing 7/10 atrocities is not the reason for the current conflict?

Hodgemollar · 07/07/2025 17:32

TinklySnail · 07/07/2025 16:48

I think you are very insular if you think that this board should be ‘pro Palestine’ only.
The last time I checked Israel was indeed in the Middle East.
I consider my need to do this is because people, like yourself, think this whole shit show is Israel’s doing and can’t actually accept that Hamas was the reason Israel defended themselves

You’ve come onto a very specific conversation in a specific attempt to derail and minimise.
That makes you a certain type of person.

If you read the article you would see these particular soldiers are actually not acting in self defence in the slightest. Targeting civilians is really the opposite of that.

Everyone can see through you.

TinklySnail · 07/07/2025 17:32

Martymcfly24 · 07/07/2025 17:19

Oh I completely denounce Hamas and the actions of 7/10

Can't you see that the continued excuses or denial about the IDF and Israeli Government down nothing for those that are currently suffering?

Do you denounce their actions and most importantly the disgusting information provided in the OP?

No because I don’t see anyone on the protests actually denouncing Hamas.
I’ve seen Israeli activists denouncing Hamas with signs saying free Gaza from Hamas.
So if you denounce Hamas why aren’t you putting the blame on them?
Why aren’t you livid that Hamas decided to kill innocent Israelis enjoying a concert?
What are your thoughts on Islamic nutjobs killing innocent kids at an Ariana Grande concert?
Hamas are terrorists. Islamic terrorists. If you are British then I would query why you are so angry at the IDF and not Hamas

Martymcfly24 · 07/07/2025 17:33

No, I don’t suppose you have because you don’t want to see both sides.
You are so wrapped up in your own little world that you can’t see a different perspective.

The irony..

ElCorazon · 07/07/2025 17:34

Whatsinanamehey · 07/07/2025 13:07

You should go check who struck who first if you want to go down that route.

Okay, let’s go down that route. There’s a book called the Bible which is thousands of years old. It is a pretty good chronicle of the Jews/Israelis, as basically the whole book is about them. Palestinians (Philistines) are mentioned in it as a footnote. Palestinians do not have a similarly ancient book or chronicle, yet, to be fair, their presence in the region cannot be denied as an ethnic minority! They weren’t very cohesive as a group and probably lacked strong enough leaders who would have united them to claim the land for themselves. So they never did it. They were just there!

Ancient artefacts, sites, written scrolls, manuscripts, ancient Jewish laws, buildings and temples strongly testify that Israel was the homeland of the Jewish people. That region was always called Israel/Judea.
Now fast forward to 1948 when Israel was created. It is an officially, legally created state, solidified in a constitution or some other kind of declaration, officially recognised by the UN and other similar bodies, and pretty much the whole world. (Except some Arab states) A country named Palestine was never created. It doesn’t exist! The land of Palestine is not the same as the country of Palestine!
Ever since Israel was created, the Palestinians were given ample of opportunity to coexist peacefully with the Israelis (and given the same rights and opportunities) but they blew it all and started wars and organised terrorist attacks.
Loads of countries have been created artificially with ethnic minorities in them, borders redrawn, yet most of them thrive without starting wars.Once a country is officially created, nobody can argue about it! So why can’t the Palestinians do the same? Maybe you know the answer…

Martymcfly24 · 07/07/2025 17:34

TinklySnail · 07/07/2025 17:32

No because I don’t see anyone on the protests actually denouncing Hamas.
I’ve seen Israeli activists denouncing Hamas with signs saying free Gaza from Hamas.
So if you denounce Hamas why aren’t you putting the blame on them?
Why aren’t you livid that Hamas decided to kill innocent Israelis enjoying a concert?
What are your thoughts on Islamic nutjobs killing innocent kids at an Ariana Grande concert?
Hamas are terrorists. Islamic terrorists. If you are British then I would query why you are so angry at the IDF and not Hamas

I'm not British.

I am Irish.
And because of that I think you are talking completely and utter shite.

TinklySnail · 07/07/2025 17:34

Hodgemollar · 07/07/2025 17:32

You’ve come onto a very specific conversation in a specific attempt to derail and minimise.
That makes you a certain type of person.

If you read the article you would see these particular soldiers are actually not acting in self defence in the slightest. Targeting civilians is really the opposite of that.

Everyone can see through you.

I certainly hope people can see through me;
I’m not here to pretend.
Targeting civilians? The civilian spaces that Hamas hide in?
So, what type of person am I?

TinklySnail · 07/07/2025 17:36

Martymcfly24 · 07/07/2025 17:33

No, I don’t suppose you have because you don’t want to see both sides.
You are so wrapped up in your own little world that you can’t see a different perspective.

The irony..

Explain the irony please?
Because you are Irish? Tell me the correlation?

TinklySnail · 07/07/2025 17:36

Martymcfly24 · 07/07/2025 17:34

I'm not British.

I am Irish.
And because of that I think you are talking completely and utter shite.

Meh, carry on thinking I talk utter shite. No shits given tbf

Martymcfly24 · 07/07/2025 17:43

TinklySnail · 07/07/2025 17:36

Explain the irony please?
Because you are Irish? Tell me the correlation?

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You came on a thread posted with very clear information about atrocities deliberately committed by the IDF a military who will in the future see war crime trials over the numerous horrendous acts they have committed over the past 20 months (not to mind before Oct 7th)
These acts include using civilians as human shields, targeting children with drones, using 500lb bombs on crowded spaces and murdering medics, aid workers and journalists.

I like many posters including the op have repeatedly condemned Hamas and their actions . However you have continuously argued a one sided view and cannot see another perspective at all. Even in the face of the irrefutable evidence posted by the OP.

That is the irony of the statement you posted.

Hodgemollar · 07/07/2025 17:46

TinklySnail · 07/07/2025 17:34

I certainly hope people can see through me;
I’m not here to pretend.
Targeting civilians? The civilian spaces that Hamas hide in?
So, what type of person am I?

Targeting civilians? The civilian spaces that Hamas hide in?

Weird behaviour to be so prolific on a thread and yet refuse to read the article.

sualipa · 07/07/2025 17:46

ElCorazon · 07/07/2025 17:34

Okay, let’s go down that route. There’s a book called the Bible which is thousands of years old. It is a pretty good chronicle of the Jews/Israelis, as basically the whole book is about them. Palestinians (Philistines) are mentioned in it as a footnote. Palestinians do not have a similarly ancient book or chronicle, yet, to be fair, their presence in the region cannot be denied as an ethnic minority! They weren’t very cohesive as a group and probably lacked strong enough leaders who would have united them to claim the land for themselves. So they never did it. They were just there!

Ancient artefacts, sites, written scrolls, manuscripts, ancient Jewish laws, buildings and temples strongly testify that Israel was the homeland of the Jewish people. That region was always called Israel/Judea.
Now fast forward to 1948 when Israel was created. It is an officially, legally created state, solidified in a constitution or some other kind of declaration, officially recognised by the UN and other similar bodies, and pretty much the whole world. (Except some Arab states) A country named Palestine was never created. It doesn’t exist! The land of Palestine is not the same as the country of Palestine!
Ever since Israel was created, the Palestinians were given ample of opportunity to coexist peacefully with the Israelis (and given the same rights and opportunities) but they blew it all and started wars and organised terrorist attacks.
Loads of countries have been created artificially with ethnic minorities in them, borders redrawn, yet most of them thrive without starting wars.Once a country is officially created, nobody can argue about it! So why can’t the Palestinians do the same? Maybe you know the answer…

Maybe the Canaanites were a peace-loving bunch farmers, traders, and city-builders just trying to get on with their lives in what’s now the Middle East - probably would have gone to Glasto now in the Green Fields. They had a rich culture, spoke early Semitic languages, and were even ahead of the curve with one of the first alphabets But then, according to the Bible, the Israelites turned up and either drove them out or wiped them off the map - because of Egyptian skullduggery and God telling them to - cheery stuff.

Of course, relying on the Bible for accurate historical reporting is a bit like using a fairy tale as a travel guide. Archaeologists now think the Canaanites weren’t destroyed at all, but just gradually merged into the surrounding culture so they didn’t vanish, they just rebranded. Probably great in their time like Woolworth's but didn't move with the time nor have God on their side.

Deuteronomy 20:16–17 (NIV):
"However, in the cities of the nations the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. Completely destroy them—the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites—as the Lord your God has commanded you."

"The Hittites were an ancient Anatolian civilization, emerging in the early 2nd millennium BC and establishing a powerful empire in the Bronze Age. They are known for their military prowess, especially their use of chariots and ironworking, and for creating the first known peace treaty with the Egyptians" - Blimey - they were smote to destruction.

TinklySnail · 07/07/2025 17:50

If people really gave any shits about the situation in Gaza they would see that Hamas are to blame.
Why is it that free Palestine does not include ‘free Gaza from Hamas’?
Do you ever think that if Gaza was free from Islamic extremism they would get more support from the west?
Do you not understand that Islamic extremism is something that is not tolerated in the west?
Free Gaza from Hamas=Support
Free Palestine whilst ignoring the root cause of the current unrest = F U

Hodgemollar · 07/07/2025 17:56

TinklySnail · 07/07/2025 17:50

If people really gave any shits about the situation in Gaza they would see that Hamas are to blame.
Why is it that free Palestine does not include ‘free Gaza from Hamas’?
Do you ever think that if Gaza was free from Islamic extremism they would get more support from the west?
Do you not understand that Islamic extremism is something that is not tolerated in the west?
Free Gaza from Hamas=Support
Free Palestine whilst ignoring the root cause of the current unrest = F U

What does Islamic extremism have to do with an IDF soldier discussing the IDF targeting civilians in Gaza?

izthiszeend · 07/07/2025 17:58

@TinklySnail You sound like an iDF soldier on propaganda duty.
Your case is lost. Our governments will keep supporting their ‘ally’ in crimes, but the rest of us will not forget.

IDF are not protecting anyone from religious extremism, they are religious extremists, believing they can do whatever they want, believing it’s‘their land’ believing they are better than others.

TinklySnail · 07/07/2025 18:09

Whatsinanamehey · 07/07/2025 13:05

Do you want to talk about how the IDF use Palestinians as human shields which is well documented?

Why are the actions of the IDF always excused? Do Palestinian lives count less?

Do you want to talk about Palestinians that goad the IDF and get the very young children to throw stones at them?

TinklySnail · 07/07/2025 18:09

Hodgemollar · 07/07/2025 17:56

What does Islamic extremism have to do with an IDF soldier discussing the IDF targeting civilians in Gaza?

Really? Islamic extremism aka Hamas?

TinklySnail · 07/07/2025 18:10

izthiszeend · 07/07/2025 17:58

@TinklySnail You sound like an iDF soldier on propaganda duty.
Your case is lost. Our governments will keep supporting their ‘ally’ in crimes, but the rest of us will not forget.

IDF are not protecting anyone from religious extremism, they are religious extremists, believing they can do whatever they want, believing it’s‘their land’ believing they are better than others.

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Aww thank you for the compliment 😁

Martymcfly24 · 07/07/2025 18:14

https://www.thejournal.ie/israeli-forces-kill-at-least-12-people-in-gaza-6755921-Jul2025/

When you see news like this; six dead in a clinic for displaced refugees you can see how true the sky news article really is and they do not see any Palestinians as innocent .

TinklySnail · 07/07/2025 18:15

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