European Commission President days Iran shouldn't have nuclear weapons. Israel has right to defend itself

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"European Commission president Ursula von der Leyen said she told Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Sunday that diplomacy was ultimately best on Iran, but stopped short of calling for an immediate ceasefire.

Von der Leyen said that she agreed with Netanyahu in a telephone call that "Iran should not have a nuclear weapon, without any question."

Von der Leyen has previously criticised Israel's actions in Gaza, but said that Iran's non-compliance with the UN nuclear watchdog meant Israel "has the right to defend itself".

"Iran is the principal source of regional instability," she added."

I think ultimately it boils down to the fact that some people operate under the premise that Israel shouldn’t exist in the first place.

There’s a new AIBU thread that will hopefully go. But it’s indicative of the stuff flooding SM rn.

No, I think they'll be relieved that there's hope they won't have Iran funded terrorists in their country, covering their strategic sites with children and playing war from afar

Oh FGS.

How nice that we have just found out who is funding Netenyahu’s mercenaries in Gaza.

<Checks pockets> No, it's not me.

Israeli needs a regime change. We can’t have a war criminal sowing seeds of terrorism in the region with his fingers on a nuke button. No way in hell.

@Amplepombear ”We have been here before, haven’t we? It is crucial that we investigate.”

Exactly the problem. The Iranian government would not let the IAEA investigate, after years of pissing everyone around.
If they had of done, and not created plutonium capable of military use, they wouldn’t be hiding in bomb shelters today with their airforce and air defenses defeated.

Do you also think Iran could do with a regime change? And what about Hamas, should they stay in control of Gaza?

That's quite a lever they're trying to pull isn't it ?

Iran can absolutely do with a regime change via their own people cos the last one USA and Uk installed there has not worked out well, has it?
Hamas is also a terrorist organisation. But why should that mean we support a known genocidal maniac and war criminal like Netenyahu?
My interest is in protecting my people and Europe cannot take another wave of millions of refugees while also protecting Ukraine from Putin and Greenland from Trump.

We have enough on our plate.

Iran can absolutely do with a regime change via their own people

Well, same goes for Israel then. It can have a change of government via their own people (which, given they’re a democracy, is more likely to actually happen). Have you seen how political opposition is treated in Iran?
You’re talking about Israel “sawing seeds of terrorism in the region”, yet don’t seem to see the same issue with Iran.

I am talking about the visual impact of these constant aggressions Israel is doing. Gaza is never going to fade away from the memories of the people who have seen these pictures and videos. Social media’s advent has made it possible for the world to evolve together and be more informed about these wars.

And no, I do not believe ICC’s wanted war criminal Netenyahu will be happy for his people to elect away at their will.

There was a lot of unrest about his policies and corruption and all of what he has done in the last two years is buying him time.

Hamas, funded by Iran, is a terrorist organisation hell bent on the destruction of Israel and Jews. They hide their weaponry among their people and use them as human shields. I am really not sure what else Israel can do to remove the threat of Hamas and October 7th happening again and again.

Are we back to ‘Israel = Jews = you are an anti-Semite’ again?

I thought we were over that argument ages ago. But as we are going back in circles changing regimes to destabilise the region more, who cares, right?

When you say protecting your people who and where are you referring to?

Europe.

@ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera What are you even trying to say?

Take a look at the U vd L statement representing the EU. She and they are aware of the threat from Iran having nuclear weapons.

In The history of this world, no nuclear power has ever attacked any other nuclear power.

This Israeli aggression in the last two years has made ensure that every country in that region will want a nuke. Look at what happened with Ukraine when they gave up their nuclear programme. Who has been able to save them? In a world where Trump and war criminals like Netenyahu rampage free, who can blame these countries anyway?
if I were a mid east nation, I would get a nuke pronto. Same for the countries at risk from Russia.
and who is backing all this chaos? Trump and his cronies - both in Russia and in Israel.
and who is paying the price for it with their economy and wars on their lands as well as displaced millions? Europe.

Sorry I am not buying this argument and the threat should be investigated and assessed by international bodies, not by a war mongering genocidal regimes like Israel’s. They are the last one we should think of when thinking world peace and harmony.

Not just her… the statement has also been signed by all the G7 countries America, Canada, Japan, France, Italy, Germany & the UK that Iran must never be allowed to have nuclear weapons.

And the statement says Israel should be allowed to attack Iran?

Yes this too. The pp is out of step if they’re talking about protecting Europe in pp.

Speaking of countries at risk from Russia, this was an interesting watch.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/m002cg5l/scandinavia-with-simon-reeve

Nuclear bunkers under public buildings and national service, some countries take defending their people seriously. I was interested in the way Norway used it's oil wealth and the way Russia is encroaching it's population on Scandi territory that it wants. Maybe next step will be the little green men going in to protect Russian citizens as per Ukraine.

Remember the fragrant Theresa May saying 'of course she would use nuclear weapons if necessary'. It's all pseudo-willy waving till you get someone unpredictable or fanatic in charge. The kind of person that doesn't fear death because they believe it's a better option or they've nothing to lose.

It states that we affirm that Israel has a right to defend itself and We reiterate our support for the security of Israel.

Also, the fact that they are not condemning the attack speaks volumes.

https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/api/files/document/print/en/statement251523/STATEMENT251523EN.pdf