Heartbreaking news report from Gaza - Dr receives bodies of her children

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Many of you will already have read about this. Paediatric specialist Dr Alaa al-Najjar was on duty when the bodies of nine of her 10 children were received by her in the hospital, after a strike in Khan Younis hit her home.

This report just stopped me in my tracks. I don't know what to say beyond this. I cannot stop thinking about this poor woman tonight.

er children killed by a strike in Khan Younis. Guardian link

You wrote "it really is a sign of a weak challenge to a debate when people stoop to making things up"

Then you say "putting herself and others at risk in a war zone for a publicity stunt. That's what they're doing it for not to deliver food!"

Try taking your own advice, eh?

Ah! The personal insults have come out.

How very predictable! About as predictable as Greta’s sailing boat not being allowed to reach the Gaza Strip so the supposed aid won’t reach anyone. Which being “symbolic” won’t actually be much of a loss.

Do you really think they expect to deliver any food?

Same question as above to you?

Who would you expect to protect your DC in an active war zone like Gaza?

Hamas? The PIJ?

Or do you think they wouldn’t need protection?

I hope they can , they are extremely brave and courageous.

Funny you should mention that my 10 yr old daughter has just finished the Under the Hawthorn Tree trilogy about the Irish famine and we have drawn parallels with the experience of the main characters in the book and the Palestinian people. Especially talking about the horror if the soup kitchens and the current issues around the supply of aid and the controlling nature of the colonizers.

So if in 13 years she decides to do something like this I will probably yes try and stop her because I love her so much and want nothing bad to happen but I would be very very proud of her .

In fairness both Hamas and the IDF are rapists who dismember people. The thing is you are acting like what people have to fear is Hamas - Hamas would not see a freedom flotilla as the enemy, Israel on the other hand have form for bombing them and quite recently set one on fire in international waters. I would be terrified for my child that Israel would blow them up or shoot them. Look at the civilian body count in Gaza. I would also be dead proud of her.

The thing I find mad is that so many pro Israel posters act like Israel have a right to control what goes in and out of Gaza. Boats carrying aid should be allowed land in Gaza, it does not belong to Israel. Similarly Israel should not be controlling its borders - it is not their country, though they have form for moving the boarders and stealing more and more land. The people firing bombs, shooting from quadcopters, from apache helicopters, the people sending snipers to shoot children in the head and the thorax are the IDF. They are the people I would be worried about. During this war several aid workers have been killed, tons of medics all at the hands of the IDF. I would fear the IDF for sure.

Fabulous books and very definite parallels. It’s when one group sees the other as ‘less than’ or ‘the other’ they justify murder and forced starvation.

They won’t be allowed to enter Gaza and everyone knows that.

The comments under the article are interesting.

Anyone know how far away she is?

Absolutely brilliant books and it humanizes the crowds we see at aid centres and swarming together. We are too used to the images of people with bowls out desperate and have become desensitized.

Every single one of them has a story that deserves to be told.

I don’t think anyone on here sees Palestinians as ‘less than’. Their leaders do though and you could also say those who stood by, and also those who believe it’s justified for generations of Palestinians to have been indoctrinated into a self destructive ideology leading to where they are today.

I have to say I’ve brought my DC up to value their themselves and their lives and certainly would never subscribe to them sacrificing themselves for others (except their own children), certainly not people in a far away land which they’ve never stopped foot in. I’d seriously question my parenting skills in that situation and certainly wouldn’t feel pride.

Horses for courses I suppose.

And thats your perogative to feel like that as a person and as a parent.

Id question my parenting skills if they thought that because they have never been to a place they cannot help them.

The Choctaw Nation sent 170 dollars to the Irish famine relief in 1847 a huge amount for a poor nation. Thank God they looked beyond their own needs to a country they will never see.

Just like you think Palestinians have been indoctrinated into a self destructive ideology I would say they are striving for freedom and independence from a nation that have been indoctrinated into thinking that Palestine does not deserve to be a state.

Horses for courses is right.

That is exactly it! I remember my mum saying years ago that what she disliked about a place she lived in when I was a baby was that people had lost their sense of community and their connections with the wider world, that most were part of ‘nuclear families’ that only considered their own families needs. She has always been pro human rights and had us all take part in letter writing campaigns and attending human rights conferences as teens - I want to instil these same values in my child. If we all only look after ourselves who is there to help us when bad things happen. This poem following World War 2 really surmises why we should always fight for protect anyone who has been oppressed.

FIRST THEY CAME
By Martin Niemöller

First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me.

If nothing else they are focusing the world on the situation in Gaza and for that alone its worth it.

Exactly.. Israel bombed the last flotilla the Conscience..now the whole world is watching because love her or hate her one of the most famous activitists is on board.
Clever move for an idiot.

The Choctaw Nation sent 170 dollars to the Irish famine relief in 1847 a huge amount for a poor nation. Thank God they looked beyond their own needs to a country they will never see.

That is relevant how to young people PUTTING THEIR LIVES AT RISK trying to enter a horror scape of a war zone to make a point?

My DC have been brought up to help other people and have had quite a bit of involvement in charity work as have my DH and I.

Sacrificing their lives is an entirely different matter though as it would be for most people!

I can’t actually believe this is serious tbh.

You do you.

Thank God the world is made up of all different people.

They wouldn't have to sacrifice their lives if the IDF weren't so trigger happy with aid workers but hey ho.

There’s stuff in the media every day about the war in Gaza. Anyone with an interest in foreign affairs already knows about it. If people don’t know about it that’s because they have no interest and Greta won’t change that.

It’s foolish for them to be trying to enter a war zone. I read Greta has been swimming today and posing for photos for social media … smiling & larking around like she’s on a big adventure.

Your trying to minimise her and what shes trying to do says more about you than her.

So the terrorist organisations in Gaza are just a figment of Israel’s imagination then? They didn’t really go on a frenzied rampage and kill all those people and take all those hostages? .

Shani Louk’s broken near naked body wasn’t paraded around Gaza for people to hit with sticks, spit on and film?

I guess that must have been reported on out of context?

Of course Hamas, PIJ etc are no risk to anyone who isn’t a Jew (despite murdering and taking non Jews hostage).

The lengths people will go to dismiss/defend demonic terrorist organisations because of an inherent bias towards the country they are fighting against is shocking.

The last bit of thread has been very illuminating to confirm the mindset of pro-Palestinians anyway.

Sorry I just had to read my post quoted there and cannot understand for the life of me what that post is in response to..

I never mentioned Hamas. As usual the "But Hamas" default comes out once any factual criticism has been made of Israel.

But hamas is getting boring

Absolutely.. but you can see where it is coming from. Every interview I have seen this week with the lawyer Natasha Hausdorff and the Israeli ambassador to Britain has had the same narrative.
When in doubt or accused of anything blame Hamas.