Gaza death toll rises to close to 62000 as missing added

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https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/2/3/gaza-death-toll-rises-close-to-62000-as-missing-added

The new death toll includes 17,881 children, including 214 newborn infants.

At least 1,155 medical personnel, 205 journalists and 194 civil defence workers are reported to have been killed.

More than 2million people have been displaced and 111,588 people injured.

Ironically that $100 million dollars is accelerating the destruction of the American empire at a pace that is unimaginable. Look at his chief clown Elon and the defunding of USAID.

Trump doesn't realise that he has walked into a completely different geopolitical landscape from 2020. America "the bully" is no longer respected or feared.

Its not even been 20 days and Trump has threatened Greenland, Colombia, Canada, China, Mexico,Russia and Palestine.

He's creating a coalition of adversaries, and when it all goes wrong (very likely), I wonder if his donor's will still be around.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2025/02/03/ir-theory-trump-balance-power/

"Trump administration’s bellicose approach to traditionally pro-American countries such as Canada or Denmark is unprecedented. Not only do U.S. partners have to worry that the United States is no longer trustworthy (because Trump thinks rules are meaningless and has no qualms about promising to do something on Tuesday and taking it back on Friday), but they also have to worry that the United States is actively malevolent. When the president threatens to retake the Panama Canal or conquer Greenland or make Canada the 51st state—no matter what existing treaties require or what Panama, Denmark, or the Greenlanders have to say about it—all countries must worry that they might be next"

The irony of Arabs (from Arabia) calling it by the Roman colonial name, yet calling the original inhabitants colonisers.

The only time there the land was sovereign for millennia, was the 1200 or so year kingdom of Israel (Judea). Ever since the Romans colonised it, it was only ever a foreign colony. Never sovereign, and certainly never a sovereign Palestine.

The Jews returned to their homeland, got rid of the colonial name, and decolonised the land.

Beautifully stated. Thank you.

Perfectly explained. Thanks 👍

Yes, beautifully done. Especially the glossing over of the ethnic cleansing part.

If the Arabs had actually been ethnically cleansed from the area, we wouldn't be discussing this, would we?

Good grief.

Perhaps you'd be interested in my question: How might things have been different | Mumsnet

It's the rewriting of Palestinians as "Arabs", again. Palestinians are not Arabs despite spraking Arabic, as many DNA studies have shown:

"A 2020 study found that Palestinians and other Arabic-speaking Levantine groups have 81–87% of their ancestry from the Bronze Age Canaanites."

It's another myth laundered in order to justify the ongoing occupation.

Your loss

So why is Palestine a member of the Arab League?

Why is Israel in the Eurovision Song Contest?

It is a nothing question and racially loaded.

This is why Israel might win battles but will lose the war.

Eventually.

I don't think any argument that's based on the behaviour of people thousands of years ago is valid justification for the oppression, persecution and murder of people today or in the past few decades.

Israelis and Palestinians both have claims to the land which comprises Israel and Palestine. Those claims do not confer rights to kill each other and commit awful acts against each other.

To return to the point of this thread (which people are making such concerted efforts to avoid), 62 thousand people (at least) have been killed in Gaza. A significant number of those people are children. Children who have never had the opportunity to live free from occupation and blockade. Children who have never had the opportunity to live free from organisations such as Hamas and PIJ, in part because the continued existence of such groups was useful to the Israeli government as part of a strategy to undermine the possibility of a two-state solution.

62 thousand people have been killed in Gaza in less than 18 months. Those lives matter, those deaths matter.

Very well said @Scirocco .

Very well said indeed.

No they won't lose the war. If god forbid that were to happen then there would be no Jewish state. I guess you would then be satisfied.

I would truly fear for Jewish people around the world if that were to happen.

Wow. Where do you think the Israeli Jews should go?

I think they should stay put.

Have a one state solution.

There is room for everybody - one person, one vote.

Practice their faith, alongside everyone else that is practicing theirs.

Theocracies cause too many problems.

You’re a fool if you think that’s a viable solution. Hamas and their ilk want to destroy the ‘Zionist Entity’, you think they’re going to live peacefully alongside Jewish neighbors?

So why aren’t you protesting the theocracy in Iran that supports Hamas?

Israel wants Gaza and Palestinians gone too, don't kid yourself.

Most of the elected government have spoken freely about it.

None of them has the high moral ground here.