The future for Muslims in the UK is "bleak and dystopian"

[Scirocco]

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2024/nov/17/muslims-face-bleak-and-dystopian-climate-in-uk-says-head-of-thinktank

According to a report by the Runnymede Trust. The crisis in Palestine and Lebanon is considered to be a major contributing factor.

I agree with you @Applepie321 ! The first 2 paragraphs anyway.

Not the 3rd though- I scrolled through and yes I understand some have posted logical and thoughtful posts but majority of what I saw was, as I quoted in my pp, a fair bit if islamaphobic trope which is why I used the ' muslim bashing' phrase in my first post.

I welcome constructive talk about islamaphobia and thoughts of it from people of all walks of life - that's the whole point everyone needs to be talking about it to tackle it- or not ( depending on if you think it's an issue) but not the 'go back home' sentiment that starts to get played out on threads about islamaphobia.

I can see the thread has now gone into talking about immigration which again reflects what I was saying in my 1st post- everything and the kitchen sink gets dragged in into these threads against Muslims we can't just discuss the article posted with abit of context yes for other issues but literally everything gets dragged in and we're left always going off topic. Anyway that me done for now. Have a lovely rest of the day.

Oh yes sorry...it was the person who I had originally been discussing this with. I didn't notice you weren't them! Apologies.

There are justifiable concerns about immigration and the post was not completely “made up” to reflect badly on a vulnerable group. That’s just nonsense.

I think there's a lot of similarities, yes, and feelings now of being unsafe (both individually and as communities) in ways that feel more overt than they used to. Safety in our homes, our places of worship, our local areas... The very black and white narratives in mainstream media and social media feel like they're reinforcing this. It feels like we need to start back at the beginning with rebuilding connections. I've been doing some work on an interfaith/multi-cultural initiative with pre-schools recently, which has been going ok so far.

Claiming illegal immigrants are being put up in hotels is made up. Illegal immigrants are not entitled to that support. If your going to keep insisting otherwise you need to supply evidence. However since that rhetoric literally did invite hatred towards a vulnerable group to the point people were cheering on the idea of the hotel being burned down with them inside, it's absolutely not nonsense.

Rural uk. Here and in the last three towns I have lived in. Often it’s on Palm Sunday ( this is the Sunday before Easter sunday when Jesus rode on the donkey and was welcomed as the king of kings, followed here (and I think in the other towns but I can’t honestly remember attending) following the cross from church to church in Easter week. At Christmas there are obviously outside carols and prayers, and at harvest festival in the autumn….

Simple answer: ban every single religion globally....
<Lights the touch paper and scarpers>

Thank you Scirocco. Rebuilding connections is definitely what is needed.
Society has become very divided .

When you have men telling you that your immoral and should not be there it is not islamaphobia

How many times have you been spat on for swimming?

None thankfully and what you went through is not right. Just not sure what does your comment want to imply with the thread. Is like you’re trying to justify the attacks OP is suffering because some Muslim men spat at you in the past. And also, a reminder that not only Muslim men spat at women

Social media is a cesspit. I don't even know if it can be fixed. It's like once people had a place to air every disgusting thought behind a screen of relative anonymity, they just went for it, and then this drives and feeds into what happens in real life. People are emboldened, because they see they have support online.
I think a lot of trust in MSM went post covid, so conspiracy theories are flourishing.

Was that with a church group? Scouts are multi faith and all denomination leaders are invited.

Wow I'm 60 and have never seen that. We do have various festivals here a big Sikh community down the road that does parades and Friday is very big in town at the various Mosques

You say that like it's a bad thing.

I take it what is happening to women in Afghanistan is completely passing you by.

Lots of public celebrations here too, and where various family members are around the UK.

Of course not. I'm talking about the British who claim they are being silenced. I was responding to such a poster.

It was arranged by the local legion , scouts attended it but not the organiser

It's always been a thing where I've lived. The local Parishes follow a route through town following a cross on Palm Sunday singing etc and again on Easter Sunday all the congregations join together and go between each church in a parade of sorts.

Policing people for what they are thinking about IS a bad thing!

Forgot to ask...what point are you trying to make here?

Google passion plays there have been loads. This one took place on the streets of Gloucester last year

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-gloucestershire-65213690

Lovely tradition and as we're open to others beliefs and parades a great thing.

Christians do pray outside.

In my previous parish they still had the custom of beating the bounds - so one day in spring the vicar and some parishioners would go out and walk around the boundaries of the parish and stop and pray at nominated points.

On Palm Sunday it is completely normal for the vicar and congregation to parade as part of the service - in my previous parish it was literally just round the church but bigger and longer parades are also normal. That's usually singing rather than praying though.

I think any religion should be able to pray in public (unless it is done deliberately to intimidate eg around abortion clinics)