The future for Muslims in the UK is "bleak and dystopian"

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https://www.theguardian.com/news/2024/nov/17/muslims-face-bleak-and-dystopian-climate-in-uk-says-head-of-thinktank

According to a report by the Runnymede Trust. The crisis in Palestine and Lebanon is considered to be a major contributing factor.

Agreed. There are some parts if the Uk which are Muslim only.

I agree that Muslims aren't safe either in the UK, in many other western countries and of course in some Muslim countries such as Palestine and Lebanon right now. It's a dangerous time to be a Muslim with such hateful rhetoric being spoken as if fact. It deeply concerns me.
I'm not a Muslim but live and work amongst Muslims. The idea that they don't want to integrate or somehow want to "take over" is laughable frankly. It's this type of misinformation that makes people suspicious and hateful. If you see areas where Muslims are supposedly not integrating, I'd scratch beneath the surface and try and see what's really going on. I can think of many benign reasons why people might live within communities without jumping to the worst possible motives. But like I say, it's absolutely not my experience that Muslims don't integrate. Quite the opposite, in fact.

Where?

The thread is about a report from the Runnymede Trust, not simply my personal experiences.

There are some parts which are predominantly Muslim not Muslim only. And there are some parts of UK which are predominantly Hindu and some parts of UK which are predominantly Jewish. Most parts are predominantly white, British. And your point is?

I guess my house is, technically, at the moment...? It won't be in a few hours though, once DC's friends come over.

The idea that they don't want to integrate or somehow want to "take over" is laughable frankly. It's this type of misinformation that makes people suspicious and hateful.
Absolutely true and certain posters who are happy to spread this rhetoric would not for one minute accept it for their own community and would rightly call it out.

The problem is that people aren't able to discuss this openly for fear of being called racist or gammon. It's not cool to think or talk about these things.

The British seem to be the only nation in the world that aren't openly allowed to be British.

This country is a mess!!

Antisemitism is a real and present danger, yes, but not more real than Islamaphobia. I read a government report that said that Muslims are the second most targeted/discriminated group in the UK. The most discriminated group is Romany gypsies. Muslims are second, above Jewish people.
All types of discrimination need to be taken very seriously.

What does that mean "The British seem to be the only nation in the world that aren't openly allowed to be British."
I can't make any sense of this.
Last time I checked, I was allowed to be British.

It's not like we had Islamophobic race riots only a few months ago is it? 🙄

This .
People goading others on here to say what they really think knowing full well they aren't allowed to .

Are you saying Muslim and British are mutually exclusive? Is being Muslim the only religion people can't follow and be British ?

Thank you. All forms of racism and religiously motivated hate crimes should be unacceptable and not tolerated in society, and the Runnymede Trust report highlights that hate crimes against Muslims remain widespread.

And it's not about people wanting to have reasoned debates about things like immigration, secularity vs freedom of expression, etc. It's about violent assaults, sexual assault, verbal abuse, violence against children, death threats and more. It's about the discrimination faced in daily life, from refusals of service in shops to exclusion at work. It's about a widespread hatred, and action stemming from that hatred, of a group of people because of their faith or perceived faith. And it's about what that says about a country, for that to be so acceptable.

It is fear mongering with the intent to inflame and create a them and us mentality, obviously does zero to support cohesion. It is absolute nonsense but unfortunately people believe it. My in laws live in a part of England that where the vast majority are white English, but they still believe they are under threat some how.

There has been talk about many Albanians arriving here on the boats and I’m not aware that they’re a majority Muslim population? Excuse my ignorance if that’s incorrect

Yes, it is actually: Islam in Albania - Wikipedia

This .
People goading others on here to say what they really think knowing full well they aren't allowed to .
Who is goading people to say what they really think? what does that even mean?

Are you suggesting someone can't be British and Muslim? Last time I checked my passport it was a British one. The majority of people affected by Islamophobia in Britain are British.

And yes, taking over large public spaces to pray, is about marking your territory
Animals mark their territory. Do you realise how offensive this sentence is?

I suspect they do.

I also suspect sone people haven't even read the article, let alone the report.

Why is it aggressive? I love next door to an Islamic centre and even the parking is polite.

This article is all about pushing the agenda of making it illegal to criticise Islam, and the behaviour of Islamists. When I say Islamists I mean people who push for Sharia law, and promote antisemitism and extreme misogyny in mosques and on the streets..This country has bent over backwards for Muslims (we have only halal meat in many workplaces and schools, prayers rooms, Xmas reduced to a 'winter festival' at my workplace,l) but for people with an agenda it is not enough.

Mass illegal immigration is the issue. What people see is mainly young men rocking up in boats, given a warm hotel room, meals & allowances and hanging around outside or disappearing into the untaxed/criminal economy. They also see it has been going on for twenty years but only hit the news cycle recently.

They see young men lying about their age and being put into schools and foster families. They see a culture clash. Not everyone has the resource to deal with this, so they are labelled bigots (thanks Gordon Brown) or racists (thanks Emily Thornberry) to silence them by the people who claim to serve their interests but are really only serving their own.

I keep hearing that people "aren't allowed" to say things, yet every time I go on X, I see the most vile and hateful statements about Muslims. Yesterday, I saw a post from Laurence Fox. I can't remember the exact words, but you can look it up if you wish. He was using words about Islam such as "child raping", "death cult" "force the women to put a bag over their heads" "pernicious evil", and he described any areas where Muslims live as "shit holes".
Yet people are being silenced, are they?? It's absolute nonsense.
Spend ten minutes on X or even Facebook sometimes, and you'll easily find the most offensive and hideous Islamaphobia.
I've no time for people who claim they aren't allowed to speak out.

I have literally never heard anyone refer to Bradford as Bradistan - you must be mixing with racists the wrong people. Nor have I ever met a Muslim who won't speak to non-Muslims. It'd be kind of hard to live a life like that anywhere in the world. But all communities build for themselves. Churches are for Christians, temples for Hindus and Sikhs, synagogues for Jews....That doesn't mean that they won't or can't "integrate" - integration is not something that only one set of people do by becoming just like another. It is about sharing our commonalities and differences and learning to live together, seeing the strengths and weaknesses we all share, and building better futures for everyone.