The future for Muslims in the UK is "bleak and dystopian"

[Scirocco]

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2024/nov/17/muslims-face-bleak-and-dystopian-climate-in-uk-says-head-of-thinktank

According to a report by the Runnymede Trust. The crisis in Palestine and Lebanon is considered to be a major contributing factor.

Possibly not, unless there is a direct link to conflict in the middle east, is there?

A link about Muslims does not bother me whatsoever I actually found the article interesting. What bothers me is any conversation about societal divisions and how all sides need to work on fixing it is jumped on as racist - as this thread has proved.

If people don't like the thread being on this board, people are welcome to report it to MNHQ and explain why they want it moved. The report references the Israel-Palestine-Lebanon conflict as a significant contributing factor to the increase in anti-Muslim hate crimes and discrimination, and similar threads about how the conflict has also been linked with increases in antisemitism have been posted in this board for discussion without objections.

Is there in those threads I’ve mentioned ?

I look forward to reading your posts about prejudice against other minority groups since you are here to share issues around diversity and inclusion.

What you said, though, was "The purpose of this thread was 1) to be divisive and 2) to portray the Muslim community as 100% innocent bystanders under attack from the nasty British public." - which is an accusation at the intentions of the OP. Perhaps you could explain where I've been jumping on things or being divisive in the thread?

Are you trying to suggest something here?

Have a read to many threads in this board and you’ll be finding what you’ve requested op to do.

Did I specifically say you? Several PP about ‘sticking it to Muslims and Muslim bashing’.

Some of us would say that the levels of Islamophobia and as the article says the reluctance to call out Islamophobia when it's there is directly related to how our government especially and some of the public approaches the genocide in Gaza and the smearing of anti genocide and anti occupation protests as antisemitic.

I note you didn't take issue with the thread being on this board when you posted your misinformation that illegal immigrants are being put up in hotels etc..

'The purpose of a thread' generally refers to the intention of the OP, as the poster starting the thread.

I am suggesting if you are here purely to enlighten the MN community about issues of diversity then I look forward to your articles about other minorities too e.g antisemitic attacks on Jews

I don't know which threads you're referring to, are they recent?

OK I'll bite for one more post;-

1. not divisive- discussion on an article about report highlighting islamaphobia
2. muslims= british. Get that right in your head first and for the rest of you that have posted about us being foreign aliens. We're one of you lot- shock horror. 😲 quick cleanse yourselves you got Muslims the same nationality as you...

If you meant 95% non muslim people then say that, don't essentially equate Muslims as not being british because that is factually incorrect isn't it.
Being derogatory about anyone else having taken your word for what you wrote, as 'having half a brain cell' is not helpful nor very intelligently put - when your the one who made the mistake, just kindly correct yourself without name-calling.
3) glad we agree on attacks on Muslims not being condoned.
4) your right conversation and respect works both ways- so if the article about islamaphophia is highlighted why has this thread descended into ' only antisemitism is really a problem' ' go back to your country' ' shariah law is out to get us' rubbish.
Couldn't people have just come on and commented on the article and said yes/no we don't think it's a problem and this is why... instead of let's pick apart the ' issues' around the whole population of Muslims and what we don't like about them.
Its like saying on a antisemitism thread - let's not talk about that the hate they're receiving - let's just talk about what parts of Judaism I disagree with. Forget the actual human/ kids receiving the daily hate.

See the problem...nope? Didn't think you would. Have a good day.

Remind me who makes the law? It isn't religious groups. This country will never be subject to Sharia Law.

If that’s what you want to talk about don’t sit and wait for someone else to start a thread, just start your own.

@Scirocco posts regularly advocating for tolerance for all groups and religions including the Jewish community. You must be new here.

Apologies I haven't read this thread past @piggypigalle who claims that this is a "Christian country".

• For the first time in a census of England and Wales, less than half of the population (46.2%, 27.5 million people) described themselves as “Christian”, a 13.1 percentage point decrease from 59.3% (33.3 million) in 2011; despite this decrease, “Christian” remained the most common response to the religion question.
• “No religion” was the second most common response, increasing by 12.0 percentage points to 37.2% (22.2 million) from 25.2% (14.1 million) in 2011.

From the 2023 ONS. So by my reckoning that means UK isn't predominantly a Christian country.

‘Not intelligently put’ then proceeds to spell you’re wrong - fantastic.

The two problems I have with the Gaza protests are firstly that it's not relevant to the UK or if it is there's not a lot we can do about it. But the fact that Jews in the UK are frightened to go out in London while the marches are on IS relevant to the UK and there IS something we can do about that.

And secondly I am suspicious of the motives of many of those on the marches in that there doesn't seem to be as much of an effort made to protest against ongoing treatment of Muslims in other countries such as China.

Neither of those are Islamaphobic views I wouldn't think.

Apologies for incorrect grammar ! I say sorry when I made a mistake :) them muslim parents hey teaching us these values....

Are you saying the men who arrive on boats are not accomodated in hotels, because that's not what I see round here. I cannot speak for what faith they may follow.

Whereas non-muslim parents purely just teach kids to bully, riot and be Islamophobic.

Some are some are not. There are several threads about antisemitism in the uk in this board.

note I’ve no problem with them. Neither do I’ve a problem about this thread being in this board

Incorrect.