The testimony of the Yazidi woman rescued from Gaza

[HermioneWeasley]

I thought the atrocities of 7/10 were the worst thing I’d ever read about but her account of her treatment, particularly by ISIS, is beyond comprehension.

I only saw the headlines (I’m not usually one for content warnings but they were awful).

why is nobody talking about this? Why isn’t a board made up primarily of mothers talking about what she has described? Where is the condemnation?

Unfortunately the marches have people who support the terrorists. Cheering after the murder and barbarity of October 7th. Remember those who marched wearing pictures of parachutes etc? Those people walked about freely in the marches not at all stopped and challenged.
Also the woman shouting how she loves hezbolla recently and the chants about Yemen making the protestors proud. How is this peaceful?

Every issue has fringes with mad/bad views. I guess we disagree about what is a fringe view within the groups against Israel’s actions and what is a central view.

But I believe that we all share the horror over what has happened to the Yazdi.

@kistanbul agreed we must make efforts to highlight the plight of the almost always innocent women and children caught in conflict.

But only the groups of certain women and children that fit the narrative prompt these marches and outcry it seems. Gaza and Palestine do - the Yazardi and women in Afghanistan where are their marches / mentions at massive attack concerts etc?

The UK wasn't an ally to Iraq or ISIS, nor is it an ally to the Taliban. We didn't supply military assistance to them and have condemned their behaviour.

The Pro Palestinian marches are in support of the displaced and dead Palestinians. The genocide was supported by the West, the UK was slow to demand a ceasefire.

What is your post trying to say? What narrative? Why are you pitching one group against another and how does any of that help the Yazidi people? Do you think this is what they'd want?

What people in the uk march against is a reflection of whether there is a UK policy they hope to change NOT evidence of support for the things they don’t match against. Yazidi need to know they haven’t been forgotten, but that’s separate from what prompts people to march. The Red Cross and other international charities are still working with Yazidi communities and there are specific charities to donate to.

Agreed and they deserve their message to stand on it's own and not get diluted.

Most people are marching in support of a two state solution, to allow Palestinians and Israelis to each have land they call their own. Most of the posters here know this, as it has been explained ad nauseum on other threads.

Not all the marchers know the full history (which has also been explained here on other threads) but fundamentally the motivation of most demonstrators will be to do with being fair to both sides and to stop the deaths.

1200 tragic deaths occurred on 7 Oct, and since then over 30000 Palestinians have tragically been killed. Before Oct 7, 70 percent of people in Gaza were refugees from areas in Palestine outside Gaza which are currently under the control of Israel, and were living in appalling circumstances. This is what the demonstrations are about.

Woooooow my post has been deleted! And I wasn't even told. I said nothing wrong. Infact others on this thread have said absolute lies and propaganda. If this is Mumsnet is now, I'm out. Cannot be dealing with echo chambers.

Wow Mumsnet HQ. Shame on you. Lost all my respect.

I didn't see your post so can't comment on why it might have been deleted, but if you email MNHQ then they usually explain the reason why they thought a post breached the talk guidelines.

This is disingenuous, even if you support the marches you can't in all honesty say they are about being fair to both sides. There are very few chants or banners about 2 states. There are no banners about 7 October & not a lot of pro-hostage sentiments. The marches are clearly very anti-Israel and there is ample evidence of a very strong anti-semitic element in the marches. Look at the Campaign against antisemitism's material which they collect at the marches regularly.

It's a real shame that yet another thread ends up the same way as all the others.

People cannot possibly talk about Yezadi women and the horror they have and are still enduring. This poor woman has told her story and here people are talking about Gaza and marches. This is why I steer clear of many of these threads, dominated and always have to go the same way. It's pretty awful really. It's almost as if what happened to Yezadi women and girls doesn't matter. 😥

Exactly. And the women of Afghanistan not even allowed to speak 😢😢😢.

Personally think men should be banned from being in power in these regions. I know I will get shouted down but the horrors perpetrated by men in these countries is horrific. Majority female governments this would not be happening.

"Majority female governments this would not be happening." - so true, @TheaBrandt .

We've seen the difference in how aid gets distributed when men and women are in charge of it. We've seen how male-majority governments make life harder for women and children across the world.

Women's and children's rights and safety are generally much better protected and prioritised when women make decisions rather than having decisions imposed by men who a lot of the time have no interest in our safety, wellbeing and rights.

And not by the odd woman who thrives in the male system such as Margaret thatcher. Majority normal compassionate women in power like us. Then this would not be happening. It just wouldn’t.

I agree with this. Sadly those countries with male ruling despots and terrorists do all in their power to erase female voices from being heard. They know the outcome would be a more tolerant and caring society.

I agree to a point but there are women that can be just as ruthless, Aung San Suu Kyi, comes to mind. I think power corrupts, it is though mainly men that hold it.

Thank you for posting this @HermioneWeasley and @TheaBrandt I totally agree majority female government would be much safer, fairer, reliable. Why do men adopt this sheep/herd like approach where they idolise each other and just repeat what they say- pack mentality I guess, maybe that's why they love being in football crowds so much all copying each other. Women far more likely to think critically and be kind, maybe due to nurturing/protective instincts?
Anyway I digress - I started a thread a few weeks ago about the Afghan women silence order as I was so horrified and disappointingly it didn't get many responses.
I find it particularly terrifying that the whole misogynistic culture is starting to gain traction as are other misogynistic cultures like incels, Andrew Tate loons etc.
We and like minded men should be protesting this and screaming from the roof tops - I bet Iranian female doctors thought their country could only ever more forwards and now look - Afghanistan even worse.
Actually terrifying for kids of today - esp with so many male immigrants from those countries leaving their mothers/wives/sisters in danger to flee to Europe rather than defending their country, their women and their freedoms.

Because polling is such an accurate process?

The same people who tell you mn is an echo chamber will quote random poll data from the subset of people who comment.

At least AIBU gives you sample size & %

The same people who tell you mn is an echo chamber will quote random poll data from the subset of people who comment.

The only people on here who tell you MN is an echo chamber are those who are Pro Israel and anti Palestinian.

My post was clearly not disingenuous and I said nothing about supporting anything one thing or the other, personally. I think my post summed it up correctly, taking into consideration the fact that not all people marching are fully aware of all facts, but also asserting that the vast majority of people on earth support peace and autonomy for both sides, and realistically this is a two state solution.

Antisemitism and other types of racism come from ignorance or manipulation, and so to counter that it is more effective to educate constructively than to condemn.

Do you support a two state solution or something else?

It also became apparent that this was the case during covid. Countries with a woman at the head did better.

A story about how the US is attempting to help (not enough help in my opinion though)

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/yazidi-woman-gaza-hamas-isis-b2623554.html