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PeasfullPerson · 13/10/2024 21:48

10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne · 13/10/2024 21:30

Had a very quick read about Nurit Peled-Elhanan.

Her thirteen year old daughter was killed in a 1997 terrorist attack by Hamas, and because she dared to consider that the oppression of Gaza may have been a factor which led to October 7th, she was suspended from the college she worked at.

Apart from her dedication to human rights, perhaps she was a grieving mother searching for answers. Truly disgraceful, and extreme.

‘On Oct. 25, Professor Nurit Peled-Elhanan, a lecturer at a college in Jerusalem, participated in a discussion in a faculty WhatsApp group about the horrific events of Oct. 7. In response to another lecturer’s message, she wrote that “the massacre,” referring to the actions of Hamas, reminded her of something the French philosopher and playwright Jean-Paul Sartre once wrote about race relations, adding a paraphrased quote: “‘After so many years that the neck of the occupied has been suffocating under your iron foot and suddenly was given a chance to raise his eyes, what kind of gaze did you expect you would see there?’ We saw this gaze,” Ms. Peled-Elhanan wrote to her colleagues.
A few hours later, Ms. Peled-Elhanan — a winner of the European Parliament’s Sakharov Prize for human rights and the freedom of thought, and a bereaved mother whose 13-year-old daughter, Smadar, was murdered in a 1997 terrorist attack by Hamas — received a letter from the president of the college. He advised her that she was suspended and summoned her to a hearing on whether her employment would be terminated. The charge: “displays of understanding to the horrific act of Hamas” and expressing “justification to the heinous act.”’

https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/article/israel-is-silencing-internal-critics/

Israel Is silencing internal critics

Social media postings in Israel are now subject to intense scrutiny by a task force established recently by extreme-right-wing Minister…

https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/article/israel-is-silencing-internal-critics

Dulra · 13/10/2024 22:05

PeasfullPerson · 13/10/2024 21:48

Had a very quick read about Nurit Peled-Elhanan.

Her thirteen year old daughter was killed in a 1997 terrorist attack by Hamas, and because she dared to consider that the oppression of Gaza may have been a factor which led to October 7th, she was suspended from the college she worked at.

Apart from her dedication to human rights, perhaps she was a grieving mother searching for answers. Truly disgraceful, and extreme.

‘On Oct. 25, Professor Nurit Peled-Elhanan, a lecturer at a college in Jerusalem, participated in a discussion in a faculty WhatsApp group about the horrific events of Oct. 7. In response to another lecturer’s message, she wrote that “the massacre,” referring to the actions of Hamas, reminded her of something the French philosopher and playwright Jean-Paul Sartre once wrote about race relations, adding a paraphrased quote: “‘After so many years that the neck of the occupied has been suffocating under your iron foot and suddenly was given a chance to raise his eyes, what kind of gaze did you expect you would see there?’ We saw this gaze,” Ms. Peled-Elhanan wrote to her colleagues.
A few hours later, Ms. Peled-Elhanan — a winner of the European Parliament’s Sakharov Prize for human rights and the freedom of thought, and a bereaved mother whose 13-year-old daughter, Smadar, was murdered in a 1997 terrorist attack by Hamas — received a letter from the president of the college. He advised her that she was suspended and summoned her to a hearing on whether her employment would be terminated. The charge: “displays of understanding to the horrific act of Hamas” and expressing “justification to the heinous act.”’

https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/article/israel-is-silencing-internal-critics/

Sounds more like communist china than democratic Europe

Daftasabroom · 13/10/2024 22:37

@Dulra “justification to the heinous act.”

One can understand without justifying, equally retribution may never be just.

ScrollingLeaves · 13/10/2024 23:27

10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne · 13/10/2024 21:30

Thank you very much. What a remarkable woman she is.

10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne · 14/10/2024 00:00

ScrollingLeaves · 13/10/2024 23:27

Thank you very much. What a remarkable woman she is.

You're welcome. 😀 She is an amazing woman.

10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne · 14/10/2024 00:01

Israel bombs displaced people's tents again. 😢💔

x.com/ShaykhSulaiman/status/1845599473042444681

EasterIssland · 14/10/2024 07:43

10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne · 14/10/2024 00:01

Israel bombs displaced people's tents again. 😢💔

x.com/ShaykhSulaiman/status/1845599473042444681

read that kids have been burnt alive in this attack.

10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne · 14/10/2024 08:05

EasterIssland-It's absolutely heart breaking and horrific. 😢

EasterIssland · 14/10/2024 08:06

Bbc

An Israeli attack on a school being used as a shelter in central Gaza has killed at least 22 people, including 15 children, according to officials in the territory
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15 children.

itwasnevermine · 14/10/2024 08:08

EasterIssland · 14/10/2024 08:06

Bbc

An Israeli attack on a school being used as a shelter in central Gaza has killed at least 22 people, including 15 children, according to officials in the territory
———-/
15 children.

There just aren't the words anymore. I don’t know how people can continue to justify this. This isn't about October 7. This is about their wish to exterminate the Palestinian people.

10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne · 14/10/2024 08:23

EasterIssland · 14/10/2024 08:06

Bbc

An Israeli attack on a school being used as a shelter in central Gaza has killed at least 22 people, including 15 children, according to officials in the territory
———-/
15 children.

Another school bombing?! 😢 When is this going to end?

10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne · 14/10/2024 08:26

itwasnevermine · 14/10/2024 08:08

There just aren't the words anymore. I don’t know how people can continue to justify this. This isn't about October 7. This is about their wish to exterminate the Palestinian people.

Absolutely right. There's no denying it anymore.

itwasnevermine · 14/10/2024 08:34

@10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne sometimes I just feel totally helpless. There isn't a country in the west that doesn't support Israel. Just by virtue of living in the UK, earning and spending money here, we're supporting them. It's so so horrible.

Lettherebejustice · 14/10/2024 08:44

EasterIssland · 14/10/2024 07:43

read that kids have been burnt alive in this attack.

I am so so angry, and now this too. Anyone who is involved in burning and killing innocent people and children are the worst of the worst. How do they sleep at night?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y8zj8qrn5o

A woman cries with an outstretched hand as residents inspect the damage after Israeli attacks on Ard al-Mufti School

Israeli shelling of Gaza school kills at least 15

Gaza's Hamas-run Civil Defence Agency said the site was struck by a volley of artillery on Sunday.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y8zj8qrn5o

SallyWD · 14/10/2024 08:54

Just been on Twitter and in the space of one minute, I saw a video of people at hospital hooked up to IV machines as the hospital burnt down, a small boy saying his final goodbyes to his parents as he died and a row of dead children. All in Palestine.
I feel physically sick. I really feel the most awful sense of despair and helplessness. The fact that our government and the USA are supporting this is just devastating. It has to stop now.
Those poor, poor children who had their whole lives ahead of them.

Hatfullofwillow · 14/10/2024 08:55

Dulra · 13/10/2024 22:05

Sounds more like communist china than democratic Europe

There are things you can't say in Europe or the USA too related to the "conflict". Some with good reason, eg holocaust deniers, others not so much.

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/universities-free-speech-row-academics-israel-hamas-conflict-2727217

https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/uk-universities-gaza-ceasefire-silence-seems-hypocritical

University Unions have been obstructed in putting forward motions calling for a ceasefire by members of Academics for Academic Freedom, a group formed by a founder of Toby Young's Free Speech Union, both of which are only concerned with rightwing libertarian free speech.

Universities free speech row over Gaza as ministers accused of trying to silence academics

More than 2,500 academics have signed an open letter condemning the move as an attack on academic freedom

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/universities-free-speech-row-academics-israel-hamas-conflict-2727217

anotherlevel · 14/10/2024 08:56

10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne · 14/10/2024 00:01

Israel bombs displaced people's tents again. 😢💔

x.com/ShaykhSulaiman/status/1845599473042444681

I saw this in the night when I woke up and couldn't go back to sleep thinking I'm home in my comfortable bed and this is what their life is. Being burnt to death, living in fear, never having any kind of peace. It just makes me so so angry that this is being allowed to happen.

Lettherebejustice · 14/10/2024 09:04

I just opened the news and saw on sky that a food distribution centre in the north that is still under siege has been bombed with many casualties 💔

itwasnevermine · 14/10/2024 09:13

The school bombed yesterday was to be used as a vaccine centre.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c80r2y47rz4t?post=asset%3A2fd05d04-efc9-4194-ac66-efab275c6ef8#post

Utterly despicable.

AhaHa · 14/10/2024 10:02

Dulra · 10/10/2024 21:01

I have only just seen this article from yesterday. I have to admit I'm pretty shocked with Netanyahu's words which amount to a very serious threat but also his admission of the destruction they have caused in Gaza and that (my interpretation) it's due to Palestinians not ridding themselves of Hamas, that doesn't sound like defence but revenge.

Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu appealed directly to the people of Lebanon in a video published on Tuesday, telling them to turn against the Iran-backed Shia group Hezbollah or risk destruction on the scale of Gaza.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cgk707kv3dvo

Essentially he is inciting Lebanese people to civil war.

anotherlevel · 14/10/2024 10:05

itwasnevermine · 14/10/2024 09:13

The school bombed yesterday was to be used as a vaccine centre.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c80r2y47rz4t?post=asset%3A2fd05d04-efc9-4194-ac66-efab275c6ef8#post

Utterly despicable.

Translated:

Oh we're going to do a nice caring thing and show the world we care about the Palestinians and create a vaccine centre.

Oh wait but Hamas has a control centre there so we'll have to bomb it to death.

What a shame.

itwasnevermine · 14/10/2024 10:08

@anotherlevel the centre was set up the UNRWA, and was to be sued by the WHO.

Of course Israel have claimed there were people hiding there

anotherlevel · 14/10/2024 10:09

@itwasnevermine So predictable. I'm sure a poster said this would happen when they announced there'd be a vaccine centre.

anotherlevel · 14/10/2024 10:17

If they knew there were Hamas operatives there, why couldn't they arrange a covert operation and target them that way? Why needlessly bomb and kill so many innocent people?