Pagers and walkie talkies .....audacious and successful strike against terrorists

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If a large number of members of Al Quaeda or ISIS were killed with a precise attack I think in the West there would be admiration and indeed satisfaction that such a military success had occurred.

However I am disturbed by the reporting of the targeted neutralization of terrorists within Lebanon with even the main stream press virtually describing those struck as civilians and questioning the legality and morality of this! Have we lost our moral compassess?

There were some unfortunate civil an deaths but given the scale of the strike this was a terrible inevitability. However the civil an to combatant rratio was very small in reality as the explosions were kinky d to a personal zone. Yet when we read the press we allow terrorist propaganda calling the events a massacre of even that trumped up word 'genocide' that people seem to love.

If Osama bin Laden had been brought to a local hospital would we have allowed weeping doctors to lament his injuries? Thought not.

I asked where the poster got their news from considering they seem to think our news sources are from Hamas. Of course neither Hamas nor Israel are reliable sources of news in this conflict.
Not a reason to delete my post if you are a neutral moderator I would have thought.

Or you could try former IDF soldier and historian

www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/aug/13/israel-gaza-historian-omer-bartov

Or holocaust scholar

jacobin.com/2024/07/amos-goldberg-genocide-gaza-israel

So phones, pagers are not the innocuous things we thought they were.
i imagine someone will manage to fiddle with iPhones in the future - that’ll be interesting.

Quite simply we need fair reporting. It is indisputable that the vast majority of lager holders were Hizbollah fighters and even Hizbollah (a proscribed terrorist organisation agree with this). I saw a Lebanese minister this morning trying to infer that these young men were somehow innocent civilians . That is not the case.

if a state is converting an army who can dissolve into the populace at a moment's notice then how do you fight them?.The pager strike was audacious but successful.

I think it is verging on anti Semitic accusing Israel of a mass terror attack where thousands of innocent civilians were mutilated. Again, these were not civilians and civilian casualties were low. I think the media has a duty to challenge anyone altering the narrative to suit their political agenda.

The Arabs living in Israel are presumably Israeli citizens. Where would they go and why?

I agree with the poster about lost moral compass. I think most people are utterly disgusted by this latest carnage and abhor the ongoing carnage in Gaza. What a stain on the world this is.

So the UN High commissioner for Human rights who said the attack violated international humanitarian law is anti semitic?

Even the US are warning Israel against an escalation in this conflict. Political agenda? To avoid an escalation of conflict in the region which draws in Iran even further which would be disasterous.

I'm not sure either. The pager was very close contact

Pagers only went to one group

Of the people in possession of or in the vicinity of the devices at that time.

What?
Saying that the IDF have bombed a school or a mosque isn't anti-Semitic fgs.

The UN really aren’t that important. Most things that involve Israel the UN have a knee jerk response or when it came to the massacre on 7th October it turned out they had no response.

Some interesting answers and ideas here on both sides of the fence as it were.

In the real world, it seems some people have more understanding than the usual irrational rubbish that gets put on here all the time.

But where is the condemnation of bombs being planted under said schools and mosques. Spoiler, it’s not the Israel who plants them there to begin with.

In a word, yes he is.

They could do it now, hence why we all have our phones scanned in airports.

Most governments wouldn't consider it due to the fact its against international law.

How is it a hate crime or offence to dispassionately report the bare bones of "this military force struck this type of building, and this many people are reported to have been killed"?

Reading the cold, impersonal accounts of the killings of children and others is actually really upsetting for the many people who have loved ones in the region, not least because it comes across as news reporting not really giving a damn about the actual human lives lost and changed forever. If even that bare bones note of our loved ones' deaths is deemed offensive, what would be considered acceptable? Should we just not acknowledge their deaths and suffering? Should we just quietly allow them to be erased from history? We don't even get to have their names published - just "x number of people". And people don't even want us to be able to have that in the reports? I guess that shows what our lives and our loved ones' lives mean to some people.

Accused.

And this time asked for an investigation

Why do posters fabricate nonsense?

The bombings are being carried out by the IDF, who have been pretty clear that it's them carrying out the bombings.

What is fabricated nonsense?

I always find their posts to be the voice of reason among the same old same old

We're all different

I'm sorry

This answer demonstrates your lack of knowledge.

They are not targeting said building because it is said building. They are targeting it because of what is in said building, I.e. bombs, rockets, bases to send them from.

Now, for me, I would be wondering why bombs etc are being hidden under these said buildings. It’s not the IDF planting them there. It is a response.

Maybe you knew that, maybe you didn’t.

Maybe "you'd be wondering that" because it's not your friends and family being killed as "collateral damage" in the bombing.

After what Scirocco just posted you could have a bit more tact.

I'm out for a bit. Sometimes posts on here are beyond the pale upsetting

The UN aren’t that important.

From Wikipedia

The United Nations is a diplomatic and political international organization with the intended purpose of maintaining international peace and security, developing friendly relations among nations, achieving international cooperation, and serving as a center for coordinating the actions of member nations.
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pretty sure they’re important

Just say it: You hope they wipe the Palestinians off the face of the earth. 40,000 dead and millions displaced and at risk of starving to death. At least be honest and say you are ok with this.

@EasterIssland Thanks for the Wikipedia link about the UN. Nice to see a change of source

While the UN might be important, they're actually pretty impotent

They've been telling the russians to fuck off out of Ukraine for the last two and a half years, but still allowing them to preside over the UNSC on their rota

You can see why people don't pay much attention anymore