Pagers and walkie talkies .....audacious and successful strike against terrorists

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If a large number of members of Al Quaeda or ISIS were killed with a precise attack I think in the West there would be admiration and indeed satisfaction that such a military success had occurred.

However I am disturbed by the reporting of the targeted neutralization of terrorists within Lebanon with even the main stream press virtually describing those struck as civilians and questioning the legality and morality of this! Have we lost our moral compassess?

There were some unfortunate civil an deaths but given the scale of the strike this was a terrible inevitability. However the civil an to combatant rratio was very small in reality as the explosions were kinky d to a personal zone. Yet when we read the press we allow terrorist propaganda calling the events a massacre of even that trumped up word 'genocide' that people seem to love.

If Osama bin Laden had been brought to a local hospital would we have allowed weeping doctors to lament his injuries? Thought not.

yes, that is ALSO terrorism

And how would you feel if the PA blew up IDF devices and killed Israeli children, caused terror in supermarkets and on buses across Israel. Would you say 'How have we got to the place where striking against an occupying army who enforce apartheid is somehow described as terrorism' or would you be baying for the blood of those responsible for killing Israeli children?

Israel had no idea where the pagers were when they decided to detonate them. Setting off 1000s of small bombs across a country when you have no idea of their location is reckless in the extreme. You would agree if it were 1000s of small bombs being set off around Israel, you know that you would. You don't believe that is ok to detonate 1000s of bombs in unknown locations, you just believe it ok to 'protect' Israel at any cost.

As if the bus wasn't enough, here's the latest school.

More toddlers and children.

x.com/doubledownnews/status/1837474688680825188?s=46&t=tm415yZZZz0e-dE263leqA

Warning: horrific.

@CassieMaddox

If people think it's unpleasant enough to have to see these images with all the trigger warnings and pixelation in place to protect from the worst of it, spare a thought for those of us who see these things first-hand, and who know that there are people out there who want that for us and our loved ones.

Do you think Hamas and Hizbollah really care where their rockets hit when fired at Israel? Do you think all those terrorists maimed by pagers wouldn't hesitate to fire rockets into civil an areas? Do we really think their psychologies are that much different to the vile scum who perpetrated October 7th atrocties.

I sympathise with any bystanders to the pager bombs but sorry am I not losing many f&cks about those carrying them.

@TheOliveGoose that already happens through suicide bombings and rocket fire. It's horrendous.

Someone asked what I wanted? I know I come across as hawkish but I want peace. Same as everyone. I want a two state solution, recognition of Israel's right to exist, I want new leadership for all (because they're all shit men with little cocks and big guns) and all children to be safe and not raised among a cycle of fear and violence. I just don't know how to get there.

Of course they don't care, no more than Israel care. Yet 2 are designated terrorist organisations that no one on this thread is supporting but some how some people on this thread aren't ashamed to support a country who are acting in the very same reckless manner as designated terrorist organisations. Instead they call it 'audacious and successful'.

You know that you wouldn't be OK with 1000s of tiny bombs going off in Israel causing widespread terror against Israelis. You know wouldn't be OK with posters on this thread calling an attack against IDF members that killed Israeli children and terrified Israeli mothers 'audacious and successful'.

You are transparent in your 'Israel above all else' thinking. You won't change your mind, no matter how many children are slain by Israel or the method used to slay them so long as Israel say they are justified.

Aren't we saving children's lives though by terminating excuses human beings that execute such atrocities with deliberation? Isn't it a good thing there are fewer terrorists on this earth?

Israel aren't delberately targeting civilians as no same country would stand beside them. Yes, the UK and US act as critical friends and certainly aren't taking a happy view of civilian casualties of war.

I think there are just a few that derive satisfaction that there are fewer terrorists in Hizbollah able to commit atrocities. I just feel people trying to elect sympathy for those members of Hizbollah can't be serious and when we ha e the Lebanese health ministry try and do this we have to cast doubt on anything they say.

"Israel aren't delberately targeting civilians"

Dozens of American and British doctors on return from Gaza have publicly said Israel is deliberately shooting babies and toddlers. Not just directly to the chest, but also to the temple for good measure.

45 US doctors wrote to congress about it.

www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/07/19/gaza-hospitals-surgeons-00167697

Shooting children in the head, bombing them, leaving them permanently disabled, burying them under rubble, etc is clearly all for their own good.

As for not deliberately targeting civilians, the only way anyone could genuinely believe that at this point must be if they're on some impressive drugs.

You’re not saving Palestinian children’s lives. According to UN more children have been killed in Gaza than adults.

they are not deliberately. They’re by mistake killing them. Loads of mistakes and lots of “we are sorry we killed x or threw them down the roofs”

Herd the population into a safe zone, and then drop a 2,000lb bomb on it.

Nothing to see here apparently.

Remember the little girl a few months back calling for an ambulance trapped in a car with her whole family killed by the ODF while trying to flee to safety? Was she saved? No she was not. IDF killed both her and the ambulance coming to save her…..

And her friend

"Oh no. Our highly trained snipers and soldiers accidentally shot children in the head again. How embarrassing. I'm sure it's saved lives somehow though. Now, let's not talk about it or mention it anymore."

How kind of them to send them to a designated safe zone

Just a bit of an oopsie. Alternatively, "of course that didn't happen, no reasonable person would do that (cough, don't talk about the survivors or the video footage, cough)."

The "we" in the first statement says a lot, too.

Dr. Mark Perlmutter, an orthopedic surgeon from North Carolina, volunteered in Gaza for several weeks and said the level of "carnage" he saw against civilians, particularly children, was worse than anything he had seen in his 40 mission trips and 30 years of experience. He described seeing "more incinerated children" and "more shredded children" than he had ever seen in his life. He said children were being shot by snipers, with "dead-center shots" to the chest and head, which he said could not have been accidental.
Other American doctors who volunteered in Gaza corroborated Dr. Perlmutter's accounts, describing the situation as a "catastrophe", a "nightmare", and a "hell on Earth". They reported seeing many children with gunshot wounds, including single gunshot wounds to the head on a daily basis. One American doctor said he "didn't believe that this many children could be admitted to a single hospital with gunshot wounds to the head", but confirmed the injuries after reviewing CT scans. Dr. Perlmutter also described the lack of access to food and medical care in Gaza, saying "all" of the children are in danger of starvation.
Here is Dr Perlmutter being interviewed

So tired of this denial of the obvious, over and over

You say Israel aren't deliberately targeting civillians but they had no idea where the 1000s of small bombs they set off were going to go. Just like Hamas don't know where their rockets are going to land. Both are awful and both recklessly endanger the lives of civillians yet on this thread posters seem to think it is acceptable to support one of those. You can't say 'We aren't deliberately targeting civillians' when you haven't got the foggiest where your bombs are, you've literally got the bombs walking around.

Again if it was the PA who had done the same and killed Israeli children you wouldn't be saying oh aren't they saving children by 'terminating' those that enact apartheid and are responsible for the suffering and deaths of children. Or Oh but they weren't deliberately targeting civillians. You know it, I know it, everyone on this thread knows it. Your arguments are hollow.

Some of these responses are mind blowing. Israel has been criticised over the past year for the lack of precision in its attacks on Gaza following the war started against them by their enemy Hamas.

They then launch what is literally the most targeted attack in history against a terrorist group which has been indiscriminately firing rockets against them for a year, killing civilians including children.

And apparently this is still irresponsible?

Teddleshon apparently so.

To some, Israel will be wrong no matter what they do. For months the comments have been for more targeted strikes. They make a targeted strike against Hezbollah members (Hezbollah who are a terrorist organisation and fire missiles continuously into Israel) and that is also wrong.

Israel should according to that do nothing, suck up the missile strikes and ignore.

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Please enlighten us on all the good and wonderful things they have done then.