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Conflict in the Middle East

Over 210 massacred at Nuseirat refugee camp by IDF

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ConnieCounter · 08/06/2024 18:53

https://www.thejournal.ie/israel-bombs-refugee-camp-200-dead-hamas-gaza-6402337-Jun2024/

The footage coming out of this this absolutely sickening. So many precious children killed. I've never seen anything like it. Poor innocent babies.

It's great that they managed to rescue 4 hostages (though it seems they killed others) but the human cost of that for Palestinians (and potentially other hostages) is absolutely obscene and not acceptable.

'This is what a massacre looks like': Israeli bombardment kills more than 200 in central Gaza

The Al-Aqsa Hospital has been overwhelmed by the dead and wounded arriving following the bombing.

https://www.thejournal.ie/israel-bombs-refugee-camp-200-dead-hamas-gaza-6402337-Jun2024

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ScrollingLeaves · 09/06/2024 00:53

On the ground in Gaza, locals described scenes of carnage following the strikes that led up to the rescue.

Nidal Abdo, was shopping in Nuseirat on Saturday when he described a “crazy bombardment” hitting. “[It was] something we never witnessed before, maybe 150 rockets fell in less than 10 minutes, while we were running away more fell on the market,” he said.
“There are children torn apart and scattered in the streets, they wiped out Nuseirat, it is hell on earth,” he said.

Scirocco · 09/06/2024 00:59

ScrollingLeaves · 09/06/2024 00:35

I am so sorry for your despair, but please do not think that. This is all like vortex of revenge sucking innocent people into an abyss.

Your children need you and more orphans will not help. You will be able to do more, alive, in the future.

You have done so much on these threads too to succinctly explain what has been happening to Palestinians and how it is wrong, giving them a voice really, but without loosing sight and understanding of what Hamas did to Israelis. Like a wise guide.

Thank you. I'm not feeling very wise today, I let bullies and people with an agenda wind me up for their own amusement. There was only so much I could sit back and be philosophical about while the blood of innocents continues to be spilled. Hopefully they've got it out their systems now.

velveteens · 09/06/2024 01:14

Shame on Israel. The targeted destruction of civilians, women, children, how can anyone defend this?!

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TakeMe2Insanity · 09/06/2024 01:40

Sending much love to you both @MrsJackThornton and @Scirocco .

BelleHathor · 09/06/2024 01:43

TakeMe2Insanity · 09/06/2024 01:40

Sending much love to you both @MrsJackThornton and @Scirocco .

Yes, sending love and strength to you both and your friends and family. Rest assured the majority of the world sees what's happening and does not condone it.

TakeMe2Insanity · 09/06/2024 01:48

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Please go to the other thread. You’ve obviously bothered to read a bit and ignore the rest. You can clearly see people are distressed at the fact that over two hundred people were massacred today, that their lives were worth so little but to people on this thread they were people. They had families, they were someone’s family, someone’s hopes and dreams.

Over 35000 people have been slaughtered while being told to move from pilar to post. This thread is in mourning go somewhere else.

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Cadela · 09/06/2024 06:42

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This isn’t a war it’s a genocide.

TakeMe2Insanity · 09/06/2024 07:48

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No one is saying you can’t have a thread celebrating the return of hostages; we’re saying we are talking about the 200+ people slaughtered today, about 400+ injured presumably life changing with no access to proper healthcare.

Penning people into a tiny space and saying we are controlling your food, water and blocking free journalists from entering is not a war.

Be honest with yourself, Israel wants to kill every single Palestinian and take over every bit of land.

TakeMe2Insanity · 09/06/2024 07:56

I have to say I was sickened to read that the humanitarian jetty that was built post 7/8 was used to bring in “humanitarian” vehicles (trojan horses) which were used to facilitate this.

Sausagenbacon · 09/06/2024 09:07

Are you proud of yourself that you approve of genocide?
Say what you want. But blame Hamas for this.
And don't hold Israeli hostages.

Auvergne63 · 09/06/2024 09:19

Sussurations · 08/06/2024 20:13

What would you have suggested Israeli forces do to rescue these hostages?

Accept the deal Hamas put to them on 09/10? Accept the numerous ceasefires?

Dulra · 09/06/2024 09:22

Sausagenbacon · 09/06/2024 09:07

Are you proud of yourself that you approve of genocide?
Say what you want. But blame Hamas for this.
And don't hold Israeli hostages.

It may be a surprise to you but some of us view all lives as equal. A situation where 4 lives are saved but over 200 lost is not something to be celebrated, relief yes that people are going home but definitely not a celebration when so many aren't.

And don't equate innocent Palestinians with Hamas. Pretty sure the 14,000 children killed did not take or hold any hostages

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PeasfullPerson · 09/06/2024 09:34

Scirocco · 08/06/2024 22:35

At this point, I'm losing hope that it can be stopped. The only power that could realistically prevent this slaughter is the US, and that doesn't look likely to happen, either with this President or the next one.

When this started, I told people to run. That the window to get out was narrow and closing fast. Some chose to stay, to help. Some didn't make it out in time before everything closed. Some people went in with aid agencies. I didn't. I told myself that I couldn't do that to my DC, to risk them losing their mum in this. But on days like today, I look in the mirror and see a coward who could have tried harder.

That’s so difficult @Scirocco You are not a coward and you aren’t required to sacrifice everything to fix this. You feel bad for not risking everything, while there are men in power who are happy for children to burn to death so that they can hold on to it and shield themselves from the consequences of their actions. Save your disparaging words for them. You seem to have had enough unkind words from others this last couple of days or so. I don’t know the content of the message you have received, but if it’s because they know you are personally impacted and see this as an opportunity to upset you, then shame on them.
This is a sort of little mantra I like to tell myself when I am feeling wobbly.. I will not be intimidated, I will not be silenced, I am in control of my reactions.

Februaryfeels · 09/06/2024 09:59

velveteens · 09/06/2024 01:14

Shame on Israel. The targeted destruction of civilians, women, children, how can anyone defend this?!

They rescued their innocent citizens being held by terrorists

Hoppinggreen · 09/06/2024 10:02

Its a difficult one
In general I abhor Israels actions in Gaza BUT
If my child was a hostage there I wouldn't care if they flattened the whole camp to rescue them

Dulra · 09/06/2024 10:13

Hoppinggreen · 09/06/2024 10:02

Its a difficult one
In general I abhor Israels actions in Gaza BUT
If my child was a hostage there I wouldn't care if they flattened the whole camp to rescue them

I don't think I would take much comfort from it tbh. Children should not have to die to rescue others. Why are their less worth so much less?

Scirocco · 09/06/2024 10:13

Hoppinggreen · 09/06/2024 10:02

Its a difficult one
In general I abhor Israels actions in Gaza BUT
If my child was a hostage there I wouldn't care if they flattened the whole camp to rescue them

I think most people would want to keep their own child safe at any cost. That seems a fairly normal emotion for a parent to have. For people to have no compassion for the families who were torn apart in the events of yesterday spoke volumes of how little Palestinian and Muslim lives meant to them, though. For people to include laughing at bereaved families as part of their celebrations... Mothers who loved their children every bit as dearly as we love ours, are burying what remains of their children today, while people celebrate. The price was very high. And it was paid by ordinary people, just like us, who were trapped in a war zone.

julili · 09/06/2024 10:17

Dulra · 09/06/2024 10:13

I don't think I would take much comfort from it tbh. Children should not have to die to rescue others. Why are their less worth so much less?

Because they aren’t Israeli.

Dulra · 09/06/2024 10:18

Scirocco · 09/06/2024 10:13

I think most people would want to keep their own child safe at any cost. That seems a fairly normal emotion for a parent to have. For people to have no compassion for the families who were torn apart in the events of yesterday spoke volumes of how little Palestinian and Muslim lives meant to them, though. For people to include laughing at bereaved families as part of their celebrations... Mothers who loved their children every bit as dearly as we love ours, are burying what remains of their children today, while people celebrate. The price was very high. And it was paid by ordinary people, just like us, who were trapped in a war zone.

For people to have no compassion for the families who were torn apart in the events of yesterday spoke volumes of how little Palestinian and Muslim lives meant to them, though.

This is what sticks out for me. Of course people are relieved that the hostages have been rescued but relief is different to celebration and I don't know any other situation where anyone would think it was a success to rescue 4 at the cost of over 200 lives. It would not be viewed in that light and there would be calls for an investigation because it would be considered a disaster of an operation. There was been countless hostage taking over the decades and it was never viewed as acceptable to kill the local population to rescue them.