Over 210 massacred at Nuseirat refugee camp by IDF

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https://www.thejournal.ie/israel-bombs-refugee-camp-200-dead-hamas-gaza-6402337-Jun2024/

The footage coming out of this this absolutely sickening. So many precious children killed. I've never seen anything like it. Poor innocent babies.

It's great that they managed to rescue 4 hostages (though it seems they killed others) but the human cost of that for Palestinians (and potentially other hostages) is absolutely obscene and not acceptable.

Of course. And if Israel hadn't bombed the camp they wouldn't have happened either. If Israel had agreed to a ceasefire they would have been out months ago and the children killed would still be alive.

Can't you see that both sides are at fault here?

So what about the children killed before Oct 7th? Hamas have blood on their hands of that there's is no doubt but their wrongs do not make IDF actions right.

https://msf.org.uk/article/attack-al-nuseirat-refugee-camp-doctors-harrowing-testimony

Thanks for posting. There are far too many that prefer to ignore the inconvenient elements of that operation

Shock at impact on civilians of Israeli raid in Gaza to free hostages 11 June 2024

FROM
Spokesperson for the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights Jeremy Laurence
LOCATION
Geneva

We are profoundly shocked at the impact on civilians of the Israeli forces’ operation in An Nuseirat at the weekend to secure the release of four hostages. Hundreds of Palestinians, many of them civilians, were reportedly killed and injured. The manner in which the raid was conducted in such a densely populated area seriously calls into question whether the principles of distinction, proportionality and precaution - as set out under the laws of war - were respected by the Israeli forces.
Our Office is also deeply distressed that Palestinian armed groups continue to hold many hostages, most of them civilians, which is prohibited by international humanitarian law. Furthermore, by holding hostages in such densely populated areas, the armed groups doing so are putting the lives of Palestinian civilians, as well as the hostages themselves, at added risk from the hostilities.
All these actions, by both parties, may amount to war crimes.
The High Commissioner for Human Rights, Volker Türk, welcomes Security Council Resolution 2735 calling for a "full and complete ceasefire", the release of hostages held by Palestinian armed groups, the return of the remains of dead hostages, and the exchange of Palestinian prisoners. An immediate priority must be to ensure the full and unfettered flow of humanitarian aid to the desperate population of Gaza.
The High Commissioner calls on all parties as well as third States, in particular those with influence over the parties to the conflict, to also maximise efforts to work towards the goal whereby Israelis and Palestinians can fully enjoy all human rights and live side by side, in peace.

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-briefing-notes/2024/06/shock-impact-civilians-israeli-raid-gaza-free-hostages

Witness testimonies from those who survived.

www.instagram.com/reel/C8FEBaKt9HH/?igsh=enAwNGUybGY5emcy

May Allah ease the burden of the living and grant the innocent people killed Jannat al-Firdaus.

Irreconcilably and deeply sad, and his feelings of despair and loss repeated so many times over by all those who were killed and wounded - even as at the same time, for the Israeli families of those four rescued there will be some peace now.

The good old "Look what they made us do!".

That family has experienced vicious brutality at the hands of these Israeli/US(?) soldiers. What possible reason did they have to shoot off that boy’s arm, and kill a 12 year old? They behaved like savage terrorists.

Was this in Nuseirat? If so, how does this fit with the idea that the I.D.F. felt justified in carrying out a massive bombing attack in order to provide cover for the special forces and the rescued hostages from Hamas soldiers’ fire? What does shooting children in their home have to do with rescue?

Is it possible the soldiers who came into this family’s house really were American, rather than Israeli-American members of the I.D.F.? Maybe they just had American accents?

@Auvergne63
Reminds me of Golda Meir, who said, "We can forgive the Arabs for killing our children," she said. "But we can never forgive them for forcing us to kill their children."

They always absolve themselves of all responsibility. They believe they are totally blameless and always the victims.

By the same logic you could say 'don't kill children then' whenever Hamas targets Israel.

Hamas didn't start this.

I think you totally misunderstood my post. This was aimed at the posters who blame the actions of Hamas for what the IDF is doing now, as in "Hamas made us do it".

Sorry my reply wasn't to you but who you were quoting. I replied to the quote thread.

@Livelovelaugh028384 You need to be extremely careful when saying things like that above as there is a definite implication that you are blaming Israel for the terrorist atrocity on October 7TH.

How can you possibly justify this kind of horrific and inhuman conduct to innocent civilians?

This sounds anti-Semitic to me as you are conflating all Israelis with certain traits of behaviour by using the third person plural "they". You were talking about inhabitants of the only Jewish state.

Consider this quote by GM too:

""You cannot negotiate peace with someone who has come to kill you." - Golda Meir.

Of course @keenforhelp. Back to swipe at me. Back to the anti semitism accusation. No comment that an Israeli prime minister had said this
Go back and read the thread and work out who I meant by 'they'.
And Golda Meir knew the reasons 'they wanted to kill'.

Maybe you should have clarified what you meant by "they" after the Golda Meir quote to avoid people interpreting your quote in a certain way. I said it sounds like anti-Semitism not that it was.

No. Maybe you should read the thread.

Err - why write" they" under a Golda Meir quote?

Also your response to @Livelovelaugh028384 is also a bit accusatory too. The irony in your final sentence is astounding.

Well that poster's post was deleted - didn't you notice?

Well, I'm off now as I have made my point.

Off you trot now that you've made your point. No I didn't notice because I was busy replying.