"Brilliant moment pro-Israel protesters get their own back on pro-Palestine mob"

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Pro-Israel supporters have taken to the streets after a cinema was vandalised with graffiti for planning to show a film about the Nova festival massacre at the hands of Hamas terrorists.

Pro-Palestine activists sprayed the Phoenix Cinema in East Finchley, London, with the message "say no to artwashing". In response, members of the Jewish community and campaigners against anti-Semitism are holding a demonstration outside the picturehouse.
Music could be heard blaring, including Elton John's I'm Still Standing, as smiling pro-Israel supporters waved the Israeli flag in a show of defiance.
A tiny band of pro-Palestine protesters are on the scene, however they are vastly outnumbered.

The volunteer, who wished to remain anonymous, told The Telegraph: “It’s just an outrage. People who are survivors of this massacre are coming here and they could have been confronted with red graffiti that honestly looked like blood.
“One of the people here knows someone who survived the massacre and she was coming tonight. Imagine the trauma if she saw this. People from the community have gone together to clean it up.
“It claimed that the film was artwashing - but it’s not. It’s footage from the festival. It shows what happened. There’s no agenda.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1902945/phoenix-cinema-finchley-israel-protest

Ah thank you for finally explaining what I had said that upset you.

I did query whether it is appropriate for children to know that there school had received a threat of a terrorist attack and I do think that is a reasonable question. It was explained why it was necessary so I would assume it is done age appropriately and with the support of psychologists. I would also hope that the school get government support and funding to ensure children in the school are provided with psychological support if needed. I am saying this from the perspective of the negative impact of trauma on children not from any form of faux innocence. I am sorry if you think I am awful for looking at it from that angle.

Still at it. Bored now.

This was very local to me - I'm a Jewish leftie who has protested Israel's actions, and I know some people who were invited to both the pro-Palestinian protest and the counter-protest!

TBH I think that Palestine supporters should have left this one alone - it's not like it's a massive showing in the west end, it's films shown in a suburban cinema in a Jewish area and they should let people have that without interposing.

Still at what?
I don't live in the UK. We have one Jewish school in Ireland and that is more secular than Jewish now. A threat of a terrorist attack on a school would be a massive deal here so I'm shocked by it and shocked that it is so common that alarms need to be installed and children drilled on what to do. I am genuinely upset for the children that have to deal with this. Be bored of it if you want or just accept that I am not pretending not to understand
Maybe just take my word for that without assuming I have some other motive because I don't.

Of course they do it appropriately

The fact it needs to be done is the bigger issue, not questioning the school who will have the best interests of the children in mind

Maybe focus on why it’s necessary

I wasn't talking to you.

I did say that further up thread and that I find it shocking and I am very upset for the children.

(I’m not going to reply to anyone in particular because I find the endless tit for tit very tedious.)
All schools in England have to have annual fire alarm practice and Jewish Schools face much greater threats so have to prepare and practice a response. It’s odd to question whether it is “appropriate” to tell a child about a terrorist threat. No one wants to have to prepare for such an eventuality but it is necessary .
No doubt the school and the parents would rather it wasn’t necessary or “appropriate “ to rehearse for such attacks and I’m sure they would also rather Jewish school children were safe wearing a school uniform that identifies them as Jewish. (I wish people would focus on the wrong doers !)

Thank you. You’re in an interesting position.

When you say “ Its films shown in a suburban cinema in a Jewish area and they should let people have that without interposing.”
I find your wording very vague. You don’t address the nature of the film. It was about October 7th and that was the issue. It wasn’t just “films shown in a suburban cinema in a Jewish area” .
The protesters seem to object to any mention of October 7th . … The protests at the cinema, the tearing down of hostage posters and the refusal to have any reference to the Hamas atrocities on Pro Palestinian marches . It’s very strange. Doesn’t it bother you?

https://www.screamsbeforesilence.com/

Yes, it does bother me specifically about the Oct 7 film, I mean let the community have its grief on that front.

I do wish people would stop politicising, war bloodshed starvation and death.... left and right indeed this isn't the time for partisan my team your team politics. People are dying for god sake.

Every school in America has this, the schools in the nicer neighbourhoods also have bullet proof shelters too. It’s called a shooter alarm here. I got my kids bullet proof backpacks to wear. This is Washington DC. I will be gutted if my home, the U.K., ends up like this too.

London does sound like there is unrest there now. I have never heard of a bit of graffiti causing an entire contingent of protesters to set up camp to protect people going in and out. Then to have counter protesters showing up as well.

I watched the footage and it seems like a few dozen locals all spoiling for a street brawl.

Yes - it tells you how vulnerable, angry and fearful people are becoming.

So go mouth off at the newspaper and kindly apologise to me for your rudeness as I am the thread starter.

You ask me to apologise for being rude to you whilst you are being rude to me.
I don't think so.

Didn't think you would.

The news doesn’t seem to be helping though, by using words like “get their own back” and “mob” isn’t that fanning the flames?

What fanned the flames was the mob that turned up. They couldn't leave well enough alone. Not even there.

Absolutely.

“Mob” but the same article stated that the Pro-Palestinian counter protesters arrived after the Pro-Israel ones and were described as:
“A tiny band of pro-Palestine protesters are on the scene, however they are vastly outnumbered.”

”Mob” has connotations of a very large, criminally violent mass of people.
You can’t be both a tiny band that is vastly outnumbered AND be the a “mob” compared to protesters that vastly outnumber you.

But why were they there? What did they hope to accomplish by protesting against the screening of a documentary about October 7th? No one was being forced to watch the film. It was a cinema in. Jewish area and wasn’t being widely publicised outside the area (afaik) It’s seems very spiteful to object to the screening .

I agree they shouldn’t have been there. I was just saying the media coverage wasn’t helping an already tense situation by using inflammatory language.