Why aren’t the people protesting against Israel calling for Hamas to disarm and disband?

[LargeAmericano]

Surely that will force Israel to immediately stop the war?

They will not be able to continue if their aim of dismantling Hamas is achieved and the hostages are returned.

This is surely the best outcome for the Palestinian people?

Protesting against?? You post is very confusing

Netanyahu will not stop.
The longer this goes on, the longer he is protected from prosecution for corruption.

Jew hate, simples

Pythag · Today 20:47
Because they support Hamas.”

Nonsense. I do not support Hamas. Neither do I support what the Israeli government is unleashing on the people of Gaza.

Because they are a terrorist organisation. The Israeli government is a democratically elected and accountable entity who is being supported by our government. 20 years ago I marched against the war in Iraq but I didn’t march against Al-Qaeda because there is no point protesting against terrorists because they don’t give a fuck.

Plus you’re very naive if you think anything will make Netanyahu stop.

Omg wrong thread sorry.

peanutbuttertoasty · Today 20:52
Jew hate, simples”

More nonsense.

The atrocities of 7th October were repugnant. The onslaught on the citizens of Gaza is repugnant.

A nonsensical comparison as Al-Qaeda were never an elected government.

The ‘because they’re a terrorist organisation’ is very disingenuous as they are a recognised government and are accepted as such in negotiations with the international community which continues to give them power and credence.

I don't know why aren't they? Loads of people here seem to think it is key to ending this conflict so why aren't they out there with their signs? You think it is best for the Palestinian people, have you done this? If not, why, do you not want this conflict to end?

The only people I ever see protesting against Hamas, for a ceasefire and the release of the hostages are Israelis in Israel, including a lot of the family members of hostages.

We've done this thread before. Many times. Let's see if we can summarise it.

Hamas disarming, surrendering, whatever you call it won't change much of what Israeli forces do. It's been the stated position of the Israeli government that they intend to proceed with action regardless.

Hamas aren't receiving backing from the UK government. In fact, they're a proscribed terrorist organisation here. Our government, our industries and our taxes aren't (intentionally, at least) funding them.

There's no point marching against terrorism.

Then, we'll get the accusations of antisemitism, of supporting terrorists and the killing of innocents, etc.

Then there'll be the rebuttals and counter-rebuttals, ad infinitum.

A ceasefire involved both sides, last time I checked.

There has to be more thought given to the ‘day after’ of this war, I agree. I am not sure that proposal would effectively fit on a placard though, or that it’s the protester’s job to sort that out. Isn’t that what governments are for? Why are you directing your ire towards people protesting war?

If someone wants to organise a protest about this, they can. It's not hard to organise a protest. Be the change you want to see.

People hate: occupation, oppression and genocide. Thats for all people in all times.

You can certainly be critical of the current Israeli government without being antisemitic. But, in my experience, when push comes to shove, most people actually don't support the right of the Jews to live in their ancestral homeland.

Student protestor on the news yesterday was saying that it would be better if Jews were just dispersed around the world. No mention at all of the fact that Hamas have the openly stated aim of destroying Israel and all the Jews.

Sometimes anti-Jewish beliefs run so deep that people can't see it as antisemitic - they just see it as "common sense".

The sort of people who agree with the OP tend not to be the sort of people with time or inclination to yell and scream on the streets, or indeed shriek on social media, as the pro Palestinian contingent like to do. But we are here, and I am quietly confident that there are many more of us than there are of the other sort.

Looking forward to seeing the evidence for the « laying stakes » claim you made on the other thread. I’m sure you have it.

Well you seem to have plenty of time to shriek on social media.

Again with not sticking to the subject matter of the thread.

it’s surely a related subject. I’m sure you wouldn’t have made your claim without evidence for it, so let’s see it.

Well, if people aren't willing to be the change they want, they can't really complain if it doesn't happen.

talking in juvenile meaningless soundbites tends to be much more the preserve of the squeaky protestor types too