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Conflict in the Middle East

Why aren’t the people protesting against Israel calling for Hamas to disarm and disband?

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LargeAmericano · 10/05/2024 20:43

Surely that will force Israel to immediately stop the war?

They will not be able to continue if their aim of dismantling Hamas is achieved and the hostages are returned.

This is surely the best outcome for the Palestinian people?

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LordPercyPercy · 12/05/2024 23:36

Honestly, if I was a Palestinian living in Gaza atm, and I was one of the hundreds and thousands of people who has lost a close family member, my home smashed to smithereens, my school reduced to rubble, my access to medicine and health care turned into a torture centre for innocent civilians- I would vote Hamas and do whatever I could to oppose and fight the Israeli regime. I think everyone on this thread would do the same.

Really, you'd vote for ongoing conflict? Because Hamas isn't going to win militarily against Israel and the longer they remain in power and continue fighting against Israel, the longer civilians in Gaza will suffer.

If it were me I'd vote for the party that didn't bring hell to my door by committing a brutal mass atrocity against my powerful neighbour, with the added bonus of then not living under a corrupt Islamic regime.

Kendodd · 13/05/2024 15:56

LordPercyPercy · 12/05/2024 23:36

Honestly, if I was a Palestinian living in Gaza atm, and I was one of the hundreds and thousands of people who has lost a close family member, my home smashed to smithereens, my school reduced to rubble, my access to medicine and health care turned into a torture centre for innocent civilians- I would vote Hamas and do whatever I could to oppose and fight the Israeli regime. I think everyone on this thread would do the same.

Really, you'd vote for ongoing conflict? Because Hamas isn't going to win militarily against Israel and the longer they remain in power and continue fighting against Israel, the longer civilians in Gaza will suffer.

If it were me I'd vote for the party that didn't bring hell to my door by committing a brutal mass atrocity against my powerful neighbour, with the added bonus of then not living under a corrupt Islamic regime.

Somebody posted on one of these threads a while ago about brain chemistry. No this person may have been talking nonsense or known what they were on about, I don't know. Anyway, they said that people living under extreme stress (and that would be both the Israeli and Palestinians) the stress impacts the functioning of the brain, they literally can't think straight. If true, I actually think this might explain so of the goings on in this region over the years.

Also, it's a very common feeling even outside of this conflict " if someone killed my child, I would kill them, I don't care what happens to me". Add this feeling on to the (possible) brain chemistry thing and yes, I can also see why support for Hamas in Gaza might actually be growing rather than reducing.

And please don't come back accusing me of being a Hamas supporter or apologist or of antisemitism.
Terrible, terrible, times.

Tripeandonions · 13/05/2024 16:50

showmethegin · 12/05/2024 20:32

@Tripeandonions

Here's evidence for you. And before you say well it's a biased news source etc; all of these quotes can be looked up.

www.newarab.com/analysis/erase-gaza-how-genocidal-rhetoric-normalised-israel?amp

Thanks for the link which I have read.

LordPercyPercy · 13/05/2024 22:21

And please don't come back accusing me of being a Hamas supporter or apologist or of antisemitism.

Not at all, you made an interesting point. I agree that there is utter collective trauma in that entire region and it will have all sorts of impacts on people's psychology and thought processes.

LordPercyPercy · 14/05/2024 08:43

This is relevant and of interest:
https://twitter.com/afalkhatib/status/1790197749784215755

This is Ahmed Fouad Alkhatib, a Palestinian American who is critical of Hamas (and Israel's actions). This tweet is the perspective of his family members who have fled Rafah.

https://twitter.com/afalkhatib/status/1790197749784215755

mollyfolk · 14/05/2024 09:11

“don’t come because of [Palestinian] despair and the frustration over the inability to build. They come because of [Palestinian] despair and the frustration over inability to destroy.”

this is an inherently racist thing to say.

Tripeandonions · 14/05/2024 09:27

mollyfolk · 14/05/2024 09:11

“don’t come because of [Palestinian] despair and the frustration over the inability to build. They come because of [Palestinian] despair and the frustration over inability to destroy.”

this is an inherently racist thing to say.

How ??

mollyfolk · 14/05/2024 23:37

Tripeandonions · 14/05/2024 09:27

How ??

Primarily because It displays a prejudice against people solely due to the fact that they are Palestinian. That’s the definition of racism. Try out the sentence yourself with another minority group in place of Palestinian.

It displays characteristics to Palestinians as a group which suggests that they are primitive, not interested in development & are intrinsically bad people.

This type of language dehumanises Palestinians and suggests they have a collective responsibility for Hamas’s attacks which justifies the violence and suffering they are under now.

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