University students rising up against ties with Israel (title edited by MNHQ at request of OP)

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Many university students are raising up against the ties their universities have with Israel. Students are asking for this agreements to stop
I can see this is happening in USA which has been in the news quite a lot but I can also read news about Paris as well as UK.

I really doubt much will change but I’m glad people are against these agreements. We can’t change what Israel / Hamas do. But we should be able to change what our governments / universities do.

Here’s a few more from before the current conflict.

https://www.memri.org/tv/children-hamas-tv-we-want-wage-jihad-and-blow-jews

https://www.memri.org/tv/young-boy-recites-song-hamas-tv-jews-are-barbaric-apes-most-evil-creatures

Well then you haven't been listening. It was said in a Knesset session by Meirav Ben-Ari. And that came from someone who is considered a 'Liberal centrist' in Israel. Imagine, that's the kind of ideology that is considered liberal and centrist in Israel, shocking stuff. And according to your way of thinking that's what people on the Pro Israel marches support, do you think they even know? Or do you think they've just gotten all of their info off tiktok and are now caught in a famous purity spiral? I mean you didn't know so it's not unlikely that they don't even know what they are marching for and the murderous ideology they are supporting.

Some would ask do these students actually ask themselves what they are actually protesting for in amongst the soundbites, fake propaganda and on trend antisemitism. Do they even know?

Do you actually think the majority of these students and academic staff at these prestigious top universities are stupid and gullible ? Specially The ones that go to LSE , Oxford , Harvard, Kings with their solid reputation as world leaders in politics programs? .
they know , they can read , watch the news , do their own research and judge for themselves.

Israel are the only ones I've seen killing Palestinian children lately. Maybe they have a cult of martyring Palestinian children? Seeing as, you know, they're actually doing it.

Sadly the children are indoctrinated by the hatred of parents. Children are born innocent.

Yes and it goes on both sides. I saw some shocking videos of Israeli settlers children stomping and destroying aid bound for Gaza and that was only just yesterday.

I saw that too, Israeli children wanting Palestinian children to starve to death, no doubt because their parents have told them thats what Palestinians deserve.

I don't know about UK schools but Ivy leagues have not required SATs for a few years and do not give merit scholarships based on academic performance. Unlike lesser known colleges.

It's quite possible these kids are not the best and the brightest.

They may not be academically the best or brightest but morally they have more fibre than most US and UK politicians- that much is crystal clear.

Ah yes. The Ivy League schools look for the dumbest kids, that must explain it. Silly me, I thought it was because privileged kids scored better on SATS for socioeconomic reasons

I don’t think that calling the university students names, or stereotyping and vilifying them, is the right way to start a movement which enables them to listen to genuine concerns. It causes more division.
In my opinion if the only aim is to curtail free speech and criticism of Israel then there is a possibility this could work, but if people really want to show others how they may be behaving in a way which is antisemitic or scary to the Jewish community, this seems like a poor approach. It creates anger, defensiveness, and an us and them dynamic.

https://thepublicsradio.org/metro-desk/judge-issues-not-guilty-filing-for-41-brown-university-student-protesters/#:~:text=The%20judge%20said%20he%20was,a%20respectful%20and%20nonviolent%20demonstration.

I was just looking this SAT free admission process up, not having heard of it before.

It is interesting to see the arguments. Some think that the systems replacing the SATS still favour the more privileged and it is better to keep the SAT metric but adjust for unfairness.
https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2024/2/2/experts-criticize-test-optional/#:~:text=Harvard%20first%20announced%20a%20shift,to%20the%20Class%20of%202026.

I don’t think there is any indication at all though that they are not taking bright students.

It’s a big preoccupation. The Ivy Leagues seem to be more a channel for power and influence than wealth- most of the students are already well off despite the efforts to increase diversity. What is a bit icky is that being privately endowed, the donors feel they should have a say in the governance and this has been playing out in the propaganda wars of the Israel/Hamas conflict.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/bill-ackman-war-harvard-mit-dei-claudine-gay.html

The donors to private universities aren't asking for their money back because they're unhappy; they've simply made it known that they may not give any further gifts, given how the university has handled things. Actions have consequences, and prior giving creates no obligation to give in the future. They can vote with their wallets and give elsewhere.

Yale, Dartmouth, and Brown have started requiring standardized tests (SAT or ACT) again.

The tests are excellent predictors of student success, much better than letter grades alone. So by not requiring them, they were likely admitting students to programs they would struggle with completing.

https://abc45.com/news/local/certain-ivy-league-schools-require-sat-scores-for-enrollment-again

Spanish students
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C69TCcbqNN4/?igsh=MXFmOXA3aG55bnk3ZA==

Statement from Cambridge University re student action -

We only have a mandate to engage with our students, rather than to have a dialogue with an anonymous email address, which is all that we have received so far. We look forward to further constructive engagement with our students, and remain ready for these conversations, as indicated in our immediate in-person response to the protests on Monday 6 May.

So until these protesters decide to come out of the woodwork, nothing constructive can happen.

To be honest I am surprised that these students seem to be so inarticulate. It begs the question "are they really students" or have these protests been hi-jacked by other factions?

https://x.com/qudsnen/status/1791232837519077783?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog

Belgium’s Ghent University cuts ties with three Israeli research centres who cooperate with the Israeli military 👏👏👏

Indigenous people standing with indigenous people https://www.instagram.com/reel/C4HAXjYNWhE/?igsh=MWxwajhreXFpdGxidw==

https://x.com/mintpressnews/status/1791546457289290110?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog this is great!

I wasn't too sure how seriously to take the female talking to Suella Braverman, who was supposed to be in charge of organizing Pro-Palestinian sit-ins.

She ducked questions about Hamas and 'Israel's right to exist' by saying Suella was asking the wrong questions ( ! )

However she was very vocal about 'destroying the Capitalist System' and called Suella a "liar" and a "war criminal".

She took me back to the time when I was at Manchester University and every day there was a girl on the steps of the Students Union trying to flog copies of the Socialist Worker (goodness knows when she got her studies done).

She was shouting that the answer to everything was Socialism.

"There's nothing new under the sun" as they say 🙄

I don’t have Twitter so not sure of what the student said but we all know the things that Suella Braverman has said…she is all for settlements and will not say that they are against international law and will not say that there needs to be a stop to them….her brand of politics is that of division and hate….we have seen that with the call of the pro Palestinian marches as hate marches and her views on smaller factions of society e.g the homeless as having made a “lifestyle choice” shows what she really knows about different factions in society. Where it suits her she wants to tell the police how to act and where it doesn’t suit her she openly bashes the police….
The students May all be naive or stupid or entitled whatever word people may want to be used but I m certain their intentions are of that of peace and realistically and hopefully for a two state solution.
if you have the opportunity ask Suella Braverman her views on a two state solution and hear her roundabout answer which will equate to a no, she’s pro Israeli and anti Palestinian, she is against the mere existence of a Palestinian people.

It was aired on GB News.

The Student is a Member of the Revolutionary Communist Party.

https://www.gbnews.com/news/suella-braverman-stunned-pro-palestine-shock-claim