University students rising up against ties with Israel (title edited by MNHQ at request of OP)

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Many university students are raising up against the ties their universities have with Israel. Students are asking for this agreements to stop
I can see this is happening in USA which has been in the news quite a lot but I can also read news about Paris as well as UK.

I really doubt much will change but I’m glad people are against these agreements. We can’t change what Israel / Hamas do. But we should be able to change what our governments / universities do.

I was just on Twitter where purity spiralists are passing around lists of celebrities to block because they have inadequately expressed support for Palestine.

I've seen that list. It is utterly unhinged.

And then there's the Twitter list of Zionist authors, which is, surprise surprise, predominately Jewish authors and if you can't see where this is going then wake the fuck up.

6 men yesterday in Oxford tried creating altercations in the university encampment

https://twitter.com/_MadeleineJane/status/1789775011152109590

I really don't see an issue with blocking people that you feel don't share your values. How many times do we hear if you don't like them, block them? Now people are blocking them and it's all waa, waa 😭 Like it or not influencers and celebs have more influence than the ordinary people, that's why they get paid millions to advertise conditioner and we don't. If someone wants to block someone because in 7 months they haven't found the time to speak out once against mass slaughter and purposeful starvation but have found the time to talk about 'this awesome moisturiser that you must try guys, follow my link' then more power to them.

I don't tend to follow celebs etc but a local journalist posted about how unfair it was that people didn't want men to compete with women and I did an instant unfollow. Mumsnet would have no problem with that. If people have had enough of celebs sitting on the fence being vapid then of course they should block them. There is nothing wrong with people wanting to follow people with substance and a social conscience. It's about time the vapid influencer/celeb culture died a death anyway.

Isn’t this approach going to exacerbate the “echo chamber “ effect- increased polarisation and extremism?

Wow, so these Thugs went to a peaceful vigil and verbally and physically attacked the students?
And yet no arrests were made?

I’m surprised that people follow celebrities for their political opinions, I tend to follow political journalists and commentators.

This is just more purity spiral policing. Making everyone perform the correct opinions for fear of being ‘punished’ by the cult for non-compliance. You’re just going to get celebrities adding ‘Free Palestine’ to the ad for conditioner, in an attempt to maintain followers.

This policing also has a chilling effect on speech, people end up scared to say what they actually think in case they say the ‘wrong’ thing, where the ‘wrong’ thing becomes an increasingly long and elaborate list.

Billie Eilish probably thought she was safe with her ceasefire pin (and indeed is on a different list of ‘good’ celebrities) but has fallen foul of the mob regardless. Timothee Chalemet is on the naughty list for publicly drinking Starbucks. Maybe he knows that that boycott is a pile of bollocks, but he’s going to be judged as a supporter of genocide regardless of common sense.

This sort of thing is not just going to be used against celebrities.

Its a funny one that. I'm Irish and we had an abortion referendum about 6 years ago. I and others that I know chose to unfollow some Irish high profile people who stayed silent and pretended it wasn't happening. I wasn't going to keep following people and have them earn money from my follow when they chose to not use their influence on something that was really important to me. I was knocking on doors, having conversations trying to help people see how important this was for women and these people who have a 1000x the influence I did, who could reach more people than I ever could chose to ignore it. Nobody accused me of increasing extremism for unfollowing people who chose to ignore the most important referendum for women's rights in our lifetime, my following, my choice.

Block and unfollow has always been the advice if celebs or influencers irritate you, I have never seen anyone be accused of increasing extremism and polarisation for making that choice before. Why is it suddenly so different?

You do love that phrase 'purity spiral' don't you 😂

Personally I don't choose to follow celebs at all but I also don't see being against the mass slaughter of children as 'political'. It's just human. And yeah I absolutely only follow people that show a human side, I've no interest in following uninteresting people.

You do love that phrase 'purity spiral' don't you

It does so perfectly describe what is playing out here. You should read about them.

And yeah I absolutely only follow people that show a human side

Sure, but that list isn't about people showing a human side, it's about performing in a pure enough manner to pass muster.

Just wondering where the evidence is of a physical attack? Or are you just saying that because the person who posted the video said it happened?

(I don't agree with them shouting terrorist sympathiser, although not sure that's something you can be arrested for)

Celebrities like everyone else are allowed their opinions. However, stating them and in what context can be an issue. I don't think they should be using the BBC to express their views. They are in a very fortunate position as if you are a teacher of govt employee you can't be so outspoken.

In your opinion. We all have things that are important to us and we follow people who we admire. I instantly unfollow people who use temu for example. Like I said I unfollowed people who didn't speak out in our ref. I unfollow people who show rampant consumerism. I unfollow people who give quack health advice. These choices make me think less of them, I no longer value their opinion.

They make the choice not to speak out, others make the choice not to follow them. Nobody is forcing them to do anything. Im not forcing people to stop using temu by unfollowing them, I'm just choosing not to give them my support. You can make out its about being 'pure' if you like but I call it 'curating your feed', the same thing we have been told to do for about a decade now. I'm sure many of those celebs have said 'if you don't like it, unfollow' themselves in the past, people are just taking that advice.

Scroll down and watch the videos , the charming man shouting I’m gonna fucking k*ll you , and the guy in black are clearly being held back.

Sorry, didn't realise it was a series of videos. I don't have twitter so can only see posts which are directly linked, I can't scroll through to find others.

They sound like charming individuals 😳 As they're not covering their faces I'm sure they'll be easily identified and dealt with appropriately by the police.

The university I work at had a student protest on campus today. Not sure if it’s going to be ongoing, most students will be finished for the year soon so probably not.

'the same thing we have been told to do for about a decade now' is quite telling. You have been told to narrow your world, block out opinions that you don't like, only listen to people who tell you what you want to hear for a decade. And you've dutifully been doing that as if it's a good thing. We seem to have got to a point where people cannot tolerate any sort of dissent.

I've just looked at my twitter and I follow journalists from the Times, Telegraph, Guardian and Mirror, the BBC, Sky and C4. I follow Tories, Labour, Lib Dem and Green politicians. I follow people from the left and right, with a variety of viewpoints on topics that I'm interested in. I have deliberately 'curated my feed' to present me with things I disagree with. And sometimes I find that I agree with someone that I normally disagree with, or disagree with someone that I normally agree with. This is a good way of finding that the world isn't split into goodies and baddies, the in and the out crowd and that there are different ways of looking at the same thing. Sometimes there isn't a right way, or a wrong way, it just depends on where you are standing.

🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮 coked up tossers

There you go. You've curated your feed how you like and others are doing the same. You are free to support Timothy whatshisface and Kim K and others are free not to. Social media pays for a lot of these people to live how they do, some people don't want to support that by following them. These people aren't freaking out at mass unfollowings because their feelings are hurt, they are worried about their wallets being hurt. Personally, I don't want to help fund people who shop on temu or people who are against women's rights for example so I don't give them my follow, if it doesn't bother you who or what you help fund then that's your choice. Perhaps you need to widen your following circle even further because you do come across as rather close minded and sneery to people doing things differently to you.

it doesn't bother you who or what you help fund then that's your choice

I'm pretty sure that my twitter activity is funding very little.

Perhaps you need to widen your following circle even further because you do come across as rather close minded and sneery to people doing things differently to you.

Not all people who do things differently. People who think positive activism is blocking Timothee Chalomet for drinking Starbucks though...

https://x.com/hannakienzler/status/1790065360785256767?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog Well done to Kings College London for starting their encampment and perfect choice for the soundtrack 🙌🙌🙌

Re "calling for the eradication of Israel is an extreme view" when that student on the radio said Israel didn't have the right to exist, here's a guy with a megaphone in Leeds yesterday clearly calling for the eradication of Israel to loud cheers from the crowd.

https://x.com/habibi_uk/status/1789631217161093223?s=61&t=U9XrcF693-JpMxeIueYG7g

Many people make lots of money from social media. The amount they get paid for advertising relates to how many followers/views they have. If you are happy with your choices good for you. Other people make choices they are happy with too.

Timothy Chalomet took part in an SNL skit that many regarded as racist at worst, poor taste at best. Pretending it was all about starbucks so you can mock people who decided to unfollow him is very disingenuous.

"Zionist maggots". Charming. Not antisemitic though of course, it's a peace movement after all.

Timothy Chalomet took part in an SNL skit that many regarded as racist at worst, poor taste at best. Pretending it was all about starbucks so you can mock people who decided to unfollow him is very disingenuous.

https://x.com/nbcsnl/status/1723601745652191275?s=61&t=U9XrcF693-JpMxeIueYG7g

Perhaps you can watch the sketch and explain why making a joke at the expense of Hamas is so offensive? Racist? I'm not saying it was funny, but people are making shit up, just like they did when they started boycotting Starbucks. The whole thing is a joke.

Did you even attempt to watch the sketch before you parroted what people on social media have said about it?