How have we come to a state where the police confront someone for being overtly Jewish?

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Just how?

I think at best this inept policing at worst vile anti semitism.

I suppose it is now in the open that central London has become effectively a no go area for Jews given the potential for abuse from hate marchers.

Can't we just stop these marches so Jews can go about their business?

There are videos of people calling the man scum and Nazi and threatening to follow him.

That’s absolutely disgusting and that’s likely what the police thought would happen - thus wanted to prevent. The police will deal with these things every week so they will know what kind of vile things will be said.

If he’s on his own, it could get very intimidating, which it did according to you.

It should not happen no and he should be able to wear what he likes.

GF shares a body guard with Israeli president Isaac Herzog & UK ambassador Tzipi Hotovely.
This story may have a bit further to run.

Unless it turns out that he paid protesters to intimidate and shout nazi at him, I'm not sure how digging dirt on the man is going to change anything.

@IcecreamWhatSandwich That was my take on it too. I was shocked that some of the press omitted that the police offered to escort him to safety.and reported the incident as if almost the first thing he said was 'you are openly Jewish' which sounds like an accusation.
The officer's task was clearly to anticipate problems and stop nasty incidents occuring.The Jewish man was obviously at risk from the mob because of his Kippah. I too think he may have been trying to provoke a reaction. It was the officer's job to prevent things happening and he did just that. To accuse him of anti-semitism for pointing out the kippah is over sensitive.
I hope the officer isn't getting into trouble over this. And there's no need for the top brass in the Met to resign.

The police aren't doing their jobs a person isn't safe from an aggressive mob. It isn't really that hard.

Luckily the police have lots of body cam footage to go through.

The truth will come out eventually, maybe in court.

What are you suggesting? That the videos of the man being insulted and threatened are fake?

please can you link. I have tried to find but have failed. would be helpful when discussing with others

One of the problems here is the camera never lies, but maybe the editing does.

@abovethefold @IcecreamWhatSandwich @Remoteaccess Yes, it was a totally engineered situation. The police officer's words were clumsy but the jewish man is a well-known protestor who was trying to provoke a reaction, something that the police were working hard to avoid.

I hate these marches but I have no sympathy for someone quite intentionally trying to fan the flames of hatred, so that the police get caught & injured in the process and lots of property is damaged in the resulting riot.

That kind of behaviour just proves there are selfish ignorant fools on either side of the divide.

The very basic bottom line is that the police can’t contain the potential unrest.

The threat of disorder was / is so high that they’re shutting down whichever part they do have the manpower to control. Quite frequently this is the part that have actually done nothing wrong. If a certain section of society realised that the police actually can’t control them then it would kick off.

We’re in very serious trouble as a country, and very few people have realised what’s really going on. It’s when and not if this gets very very serious.

Which he is required to wear, for his religeon...

Why should be need "escorting to safety"?

Just imagine a police officer saying something similar to you

"You can't be on this street looking openly female - too many men here hate women so it is likely to cause a breach of the peace - et me escort you away from the place you are trying to get to"

There’s footage on social media of him trying to cross a previous march with a van. The police officer in that situation also told him no. He’s now declared he will turn up to the next protest on Saturday in Hyde Park.

I also think there is more to this story. I have attended two of these marches WITH our Jewish friends. It’s not a march against Jews. It’s been perfectly safe and civilised with lots of people bringing young children.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/apr/22/met-officer-antisemitism-campaigner-gideon-falter-longer-video-sky-news

Transcript of the exchange is here alongside a link to the full 13 minute video.

I also doubt GF story. He's also vice chair of the JNF

Here you go https://x.com/antisemitism/status/1782452825034801384?s=61&t=U9XrcF693-JpMxeIueYG7g

It's a quite unpleasant set of clips. The woman at the end saying Hamas didn't rape anyone in particular.

Those saying it was a publicity stunt or the people were provoked - what would it take to provoke you into calling someone a Nazi on camera? Or to claim that Hamas didn't rape anyone?

Publicity stunt or not, those are not normal reactions.

It goes without saying that no one should be targeted but this guy was purposefully provocative and the police could see that.

There are lots of Jewish people on the marches. They are welcomed and often thanked.

They are not hate marches. Quite the opposite.

There are lots of Jewish people on the marches. They are welcomed and often thanked.

It seems to be welcomed as a Jewish person by the marchers you have to carry a banner denouncing Israel. This is antisemitic.

@Senzadubbidobbi it doesn’t matter. Suella labelled everybody on the protests - hundreds and thousands of people - a hate mob. Some people are determined to keep that narrative going. I’ve taken my children on many of these protests and the only hate I encountered was when we walked past the 50 or so people shouting at us with Israeli flags.

@noblegiraffe nobody is forced to carry a banner saying anything. Can you provide evidence to your claims?

Cos everyone is scared of the Muslims 🙄

Objecting to Israel’s actions against Gaza is not antisemitic.
There are undoubtedly antisemetic people amongst the protestors, but equating any criticism with antisemitism just fuels the fire.

Yes, sure. When people say the marches are welcoming and not threatening to Jews, they always talk about Jews who are on the marches. Jews who are specifically marching for Palestine. Jews who carry banners denouncing Israel. We've all seen them, the photos of the "good" Jews.

Gideon Falter was a Jew not on the march. Not carrying a banner denouncing Israel. How welcoming was the march to him?

He was called Nazi and scum.