How have we come to a state where the police confront someone for being overtly Jewish?

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Just how?

I think at best this inept policing at worst vile anti semitism.

I suppose it is now in the open that central London has become effectively a no go area for Jews given the potential for abuse from hate marchers.

Can't we just stop these marches so Jews can go about their business?

He had every right to be there.

The police in this case and surprisingly in my view, didn’t do anything wrong or unusual. As I understand it, this man is loudly anti these process and a supporter of these Israeli governments actions. The police officers words were clumsy and ill thought however, it is not unusual for such a person to be encouraged to move away from by such protest.

For example, a prominent BLM protester, was asked to leave in a similar manner from and EDL March (or whatever there called). Likewise, Tony Robinson was asked to leave, and I think arrested, from one of the earlier pro Israel marches. Perhaps it wasn’t his intention to antagonise but it likely would have become dangerous for everyone, including the protesters, if they didn’t ask him to leave. The police surely would have been criticised if they let that happen and practically, given the numbers, they probably wouldn’t have been able to stop it.

As I understand it, this man is loudly anti these process and a supporter of these Israeli governments actions.

Pretty sure no one knew who he was. And he wasn't being loudly anything or visibly supporting anything.

Hardly comparable to Tommy Robinson who is a) more recognisable and b) very loud. Oh, and also a criminal who is banned from London protest marches.

Tommy Robinson was acquitted today.
Apparently the Met made some admin errors.

That's kind of besides the point.

Yes, funnily enough it was Gideon Falter who originally asked the police to arrest him in November. Also interesting was the Iranian Hamas sign holder was outside of the court "reporting on" Tommy Robinson yesterday.
https://x.com/potkazar/status/1782442160995856526

Sorry I meant prominent not loud and generally, rather than on the day. Perhaps they had known that he would likely been an unwelcome person and someone likely to increase tensions from those spoiling for a fight.

My point is, like with any march, the Police will have some knowledge of those you could raise tensions. Of course, mostly it probably would have been fine but like any march, there will always be those who seek to escalate things. It’s not the first time someone has been told to leave by police, just because of who they are.

Perhaps they had known that he would likely been an unwelcome person

Because the protesters would have recognised him? Come off it.

"Pretty sure no one knew who he was. And he wasn't being loudly anything or visibly supporting anything" @noblegiraffe

So you were there and witnessed what exactly happened?

Does anyone else suspect that Gideon Falter is more interested in causing a commotion and getting attention, than actually tackling antisemitism?

Surely there are smarter ways to go about this than demonising a whole group of people and trying to frame police officers.

There appears to be a lot of video? Perhaps you can point to the bit where he was shouting 'Israel is the best' at the protestors?

I'm pretty sure no one knew who he was because his name wasn't mentioned in relation to the event for some time afterwards. E.g. https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/met-police-officer-threatens-arrest-jewish-man-breach-peace-pro-palestine-march/

Nearly 7ft bodyguards are generally dead subtle.

Demonising a whole group of people by making them call him a Nazi and scum?

Yes, that was definitely his fault.

Yes possibly, why would they not? He has been described in the media as a prominent Israeli supporter. I’m sure if your interested in the matter, which I suspect most of the people on the march are, you probably would of heard of him

Do some people here really support harassing and assaulting police officers?

Quite a few of the people on the march chant support for the Houthis, so I don't really rate their grasp of the situation, tbh.

But also judging by how it played out on MN, posters on here who attend marches didn't know who he was to begin with either.

You'll be able to point to the posts where people have said that?

I completely agree with this.

It took a while for the media to catch on who he was hence the skewing of the coverage against the police.

Well there's a fair few on this thread totally taken in by him.

100%.
He had an agenda.
He does not help any minority group which has been harassed insulted and abused.

The marches are attended many many thousands of people. It would surprise me that a large minority are there for the wrong reasons, as with all marches unfortunately.

I'm not disputing that he turned up in order to be openly Jewish and walking through the protest. He definitely had a point to make.

However, some people seem to be thinking that therefore we should totally overlook the behaviour of the protestors who shouted scum and nazi at him, and who intimidated him, because that was the point he was trying to make.

Regardless of his motivation, their behaviour was unacceptable.

And if there are people on these protest marches who behave in such a way, shouldn't these things be brought to light?

Propaganda is an interesting thing isn't it.

Deep emotions are invoked and facts are ignored.

If posters knew where Kingsway was they may understand the situation better.

Unfortunately all matches attract people who are there for the wrong reason though. I get and sympathise with Jewish people being intimidated by the march but I don’t believe it should be stopped and I don’t believe that the police should be more lenient on people who may antagonise, just because there Jewish. The right to protest peacefully is important and by and large, they are peaceful. Those that can’t behave should be arrested and moved along. The Police have to Police it the best way they can

I don’t believe that the police should be more lenient on people who may antagonise, just because there Jewish.

I think the problem here is that being visibly Jewish was the provocation.

With the Iranian guy, holding a sign saying "Hamas are terrorists" was the provocation.

What does that say about the protestors when these things are considered likely to provoke them?