This is the reality of what Israel is doing (part 3)

[Eyesopenwideawake]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/15/babies-children-gaza-famine

Continuation of the previous thread.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/conflict-in-the-middle-east/5018751-this-is-the-reality-of-what-israel-is-doing-part-2?page=39&reply=134623626

They are fucking attacking Rafa already.

If Israel had agreed to a ceasefire today, they would've freed hostages.

Instead, Netanyahu chose to bomb Rafah.

Israel does NOT want a ceasefire.

Israel does NOT want to free hostages

And have decided not to allow food through the rafeh crossing, despite little else getting in. They've already blockaded the sea. People will starve much more quickly now. It is beyond unreasonable.

Without 'blaming Israel' for what happened on October 7th- many Israelis and others all over the world know

• that there was ample intelligence that Hamas was about to strike and that Israel has very sophisticated surveillance all along the border, and very sophisticated and precise military equipment that could have destroyed the Hamas attacker at the border which took some time to dismantle with massive bulldozers, or during their advance on the Kibbutz at quite a distance.

Why did they ignore repeated and detailed intelligence? Why did they not step up surveillance of border and the strip beyond? WHY? And why allow a festival to go ahead so close to border when they had such repeated and precise intelligence of intended attack. WHY. Valid questions.

I find these threads thoroughly depressing ,, but I think that it important to keep the attention on the barbarity of IDF.
They appear to have been given carte blanche to do what they hell they like .
Disgusting

and any criticism, any truth telling, and one gets reported and accused of antisemitism.

Rafah was allegedly the red line for Biden - once again nothing will happen.
You have the worst leader probably in Israel’s History leading the worst possible cabinet of fascists and they are out for the blood of as many Palestinians as possible. The hostages are an excuse for them to carry on doing what they are doing. They do not care about the hostages. Once again the USA and UK will do nothing and the death toll will increase further… once the numbers are so high that the Palestinians are no longer considered as big a threat we will have more illegal settlements on Palestinian land, we will see the USA and UK sitting idly by and talking rubbish because the Israeli lobby in the USA is so strong. If that was not the case we would have had some sort of political solution by now. Not all lives are important. Whether it is university students or people doing what they can to boycott good which have links to the Israeli government or people sharing posts which shows the actions of the Israeli government and military we all need to do what we can.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6rY2tuhvzd/?igsh=MWlzbW13bHI3azB6eQ==

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6q3pKDM-FZ/?igsh=bjAzcHR0ZGV1dm1x

This isn't a war, how can Isreal get away with calling it a war when they are clearly carrying out a massacre in plain sight?

Are the worlds leaders that weak that they cannot impact and influence the end to this blood shed?

Israel sorry

https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/05/08/west-bank-israeli-forces-unlawful-killings-palestinians

It is a war started by Hamas.

It's intriguing that the atrocities of Hamas were so outrageous and so conveniently forgotten by people who dislike Israel.

Also 'intriguing' that you are posting off 'topic' again

And attempting to de-rail another thread

Editing after seeing @Efacsen comment. Didn’t realise it was a derailment so won’t continue feeding it

@Efacsen

Oh hello.

That was in direct response to an earlier poster

pp I think that it important to keep the attention on the barbarity of IDF

me It's intriguing that the atrocities of Hamas were so outrageous and so conveniently forgotten by people who dislike Israel.

This is an appropriate response. It is what people do when they are having a conversation.

This is not derailing a thread ( unless you are just trying to bully away anyone who does not agree with your particular opinions)

Not interested

There is a thread about the atrocities related with Hamas. Please leave your comments in that thread. This one is for the atrocities committed by Israel. Otherwise you’ll be derailing the thread which is against guidelines

You're not capable of conversation or argument? Never mind. Enjoy the echo chamber.

If anyone Jewish is reading this, especially in the universities, please know that there are plenty of non Jewish people who sympathise with your situation and who are willing to look at both sides of the picture.

@EasterIssland The actions of Israel were precipitated by the actions of Hamas. If you are looking for the cause of the one, you need to look to the other.

Whatever. This thread is about Israel.

Oh yes, and the actions of Hamas came totally out of the blue?

Nothing to do of course with what happened in 1948, and ever since. 1967- and all the illegal settlements and pseudo apartheid regime. The constant humiliation, emprisonments, of children too, without charge, rapes, shooting in the back, torture, burning and bulldozing of farms, olive and orange groves, villages, towns even - no reasons whatsover.

A truly vicious hellish circle

It is not a war it is a genocide.
Hamas committed an act of terrorism.
The state of Israel is committing an act of genocide. Most people would agree with this statement. The population of Gaza and now Rafah are under attack. The right wing Israeli government want to kill as many Palestinians as possible and then build settlements on their graves. This is a fact.
The terrorist attack in October is used as the means by which to carry this genocide. Israeli government is enabled by the USA and UK and the strong lobbying in the USA in particular.

Truly great democracy figures in the Israeli government who care so much about peace:

”In 2015, in the immediate aftermath of the murder of members of the Palestinian Dawabshe family in an arson attack on a West Bank village, he was filmed as an attender at a wedding party of a radical settler along with now sanctioned anti-Arab activist Bentzi Gopstein.
In the footage, guests could be seen stabbing a picture of Ali Dawabshe, a toddler who died during the attack, waving guns and firebombs and singing. Netanyahu, who described the images as “shocking”, would later give Ben-Gvir a portfolio with responsibility for Israel’s police.”

and

“According to reports in the Hebrew media last month, Ben-Gvir demanded of the Israeli chief of staff at a briefing: “Why are there so many arrests [in Gaza]?
“Can’t you kill some? Do you want to tell me they all surrender? What are we to do with so many arrested? It’s dangerous for the soldiers.”

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/08/cant-you-kill-some-netanyahus-political-survival-in-hands-of-far-right

Politicians like this care more about killing as many Palestinians as possible than saving and brining a single Israeli hostage home.

They are committing a genocide. Those who say it is not a genocide are lying to themselves and deluded, can’t admit what is in front of them and as clear as day.

They will deflect and deflect rather than admit what is happening.