Israel supporting counter marches in London - about time

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13304895/Met-Police-arrest-Palestine-Israel-march-London-protest-Gaza.html

I think in a democracy this is absolutely necessary. Obviously policing will be important but it is good to see that in terms of street protest this is not a come sided issue.

I wonder how many are going to be arrested losing their rag seeing Israeli flags an masse after getting themselves riled up calling for a ceasefire.....

You will only take me seriously if I condemn Hamas? The reason I stay silent on this is because I rarely see any Zionist or anti Palestinian being asked to condemn illegal land theft, settler violence or IDF atrocities before being listened to. Treat me equally.

@BibiSuzanne honestly you can't have spent much time reading these boards if you think that is the case. Also I question the label "anti Palestinian". No-one here is anti Palestinian, even if their views differ from yours.

The marches do appear to have encouraged hatred. They haven't stopped the war. So basically achieved nothing but cost millions and disruptive to people living their life, visiting McDonalds, shopping, walking around the area they live in.

Is visiting McDonald’s more important to you than opposing a genocide?

Harassing people going to McDonalds isn’t opposing a genocide, it’s being a twat.

There are lots of wars. Genocides in various countries Dafur, Rwanda, Yema Sudan, did you bother protesting them. Did people go about their lives then eating their McDonalds and shopping. Is gaza more important than those. When Dafur was happening people didn't comment to others on here is McDonalds more Important than opposing a genocide.

Good grief, there are millions of people starving that most don't give much of a thought about, yet we are all supposed to put gaza at the top of all those people. If people stood up for all starving people, wars, innocents I'd have more respect but they don't, they are very selective in who they march for.

People are allowed to go about their life in the UK as they wish. The marchers are selective in what they are outraged about.

This.

The sense of importance they feel they have whilst harassing others. Look at us, we are so virtuous. They don't care about other people in other countries suffering at all. They haven't actually achieved anything other than cost millions, spread hatred and annoy people.

1. Is McDonald’s in those countries ?
2. Is McDonald’s providing free food to the those that are attacking the civilians?

This.

Anybody want to condemn the killing of 18 children in the last 24 hours?

You're right. Like I always say and still maintain, if what was happening in Gaza was being done by a Muslim country, people would barely give it a second thought.

I think a lot of people on this board are living in their heads so much by this point that they genuinely believe they hold so much power that they can actually change things in the ME.

I think that’s what you believe.

What!

People in the UK were harassed going into McDonalds by the pro pal lot. That's not going to stop the war. It just picks on families having lunch and gets peoples backs up. None of those families are involved in the conflict.

The antics of some of the marchers has much to be desired. They didn't protest and don't protest famines, wars, real genocides in Dafur etc so I don't find them genuine, it's all just Gaza. Selective on which suffering matters, sounds like Sudan, Yenan don't matter only G. They don't call out terrorists and quite a few attack anyone that attempts to. Jewish people in the UK who are nothing to do with the conflict get harrased and told to leave areas marchers are in. Not a great look.

Bothering people having a McDonald's is the absolute definition of student politics.

Ah but only for Gaza. Not for other real genocides. They don't matter. Supporting some peoples is more trendy and right on that supporting others eg suffering in Yeman, not trendy, suffering in Sudan, nah they'll ignore than one, also not worthy of protest, Dafur, nah that was a pass too.

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Yes I know. I was explaining why people weren’t boycotting and harassing those going to McDonald’s during the Rwanda genocide but they’re with the Gaza genocide.
this is not because they support one genocide but not the other one. This is because McDonald’s has taken part in one but not the other one

@Mags48

"I think that’s what you believe."

Sorry but somebody in London choosing BK Whopper over a McD Big Mac is really not going to impact or influence the actions of either Hamas or the IDF currently engaged in close quarter combat in Rafah.

Exactly. Anyone who is not a world leader or politician and genuinely believes they have the power to change what's happening must be utterly deluded or extremely narcissistic.

Mcdonalds is killing people. Taken part in Gaza. I call bollocks. Are they giving happy meals to spur the war effort on. Come on seriously that just won't and didn't stop thd conflict. It just bothers families.

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@StormyAprilSkies real genocides? Are you denying the genocide in Gaza?

People in this thread should be ashamed of themselves.

For what? Being realistic?

How do you know? I have been at quite a few rally's supporting people in Sudan I work with a Sudanese community and we have held numerous events on it. I was in NY last week and there was a huge protest for Sudan going through the streets of Manhattan. There are countless emergency appeals for the Yemen, I have donated numerous times to organisation working in the Yemen to support the humanitarian crisis there, have you? Just because you don't see it doesn't mean it isn't happening and people aren't doing something. You are obviously only aware of something that you have a direct interest in, there are many others that call out oppression wherever it manifests

It's funny isnt it, I've seen so many posters here obsessing over signs 'condemning Hamas' but the same posters never 'condemn' the killing of children by the IDF, they couldn't even bring themselves to condemn the killing of foreign humanitarian aid workers when even Western governments managed to do that much. There is so much hypocrisy.

Yes I am certainly willing to condemn this.